Hero Dilemma !

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Ok suiting my hero up in some new gear for group rvr and my primary concern is avoiding cc of all types ... should i spec ...

1) Purge 3

Or ...

2) Determination 5

My Gimp celt is only rr5/6 and until i reach RR 5/9 i cant spec Det 5+Purge 2 which is what i want ...givf imput please :D

Btw spec im going for is ...

50 Large weapon
42 Shield
34 Blades
20 Parry

Punish <3
 

Dreadclaw

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i'd spec det4, purge2 and some other passive RA's, det4 is enough tbh, but thats just what i would do :p
 

Naetha

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Det 5 first of all. If you solo a lot, or find yourself hanging around from slams that you would purge otherwise, then get purge 2, but if not purge 1 is fine for most things.

What other hero RAs are good to get? Soldier's Barricade? MoPain presumably?
 

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Dreadclaw said:
i'd spec det4, purge2 and some other passive RA's, det4 is enough tbh, but thats just what i would do :p

Well i guess the option that suits me best atm is to spec ...

Purge 2
Det 4
Str 2 = 383 Str on buffed Celt
Pain 2 = Handy to have i guess even if low chance to crit ...
Qui 2 = Need this to cap 250 Qui with both types of weapons out Buffed :(

@ RR 5/7 ... Which is only 15k or so away :D

Thanks for ideas
 

Hrymf

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purge2 is not worth it as hero in fg rvr or the like, its waste of 10 pts imo..

Also i would go for SB2 at your realm rank tbh, hero do okay dmg without a ton of passives, and giving group 15% ABS seem alot better than highering your dmg by 10% if you ask me.
 

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Hrymf said:
purge2 is not worth it as hero in fg rvr or the like, its waste of 10 pts imo..

Also i would go for SB2 at your realm rank tbh, hero do okay dmg without a ton of passives, and giving group 15% ABS seem alot better than highering
your dmg by 10% if you ask me.

I guess the only viable spec i can see with SB2 is ...

SB2
Purge2
Qui2
Det4
Str1

@ RR6/5

I'd go Det4+Purge1 ... but i don't honestly see it as being enough cc immunity :(
 

Ryuno

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Purge2 saves you 5 seconds every other fight.

Those 10 points would be better spent towards DET5, which would potentially save you alot more, and for every single fight.

imo ofc :)
 

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Ryuno said:
Purge2 saves you 5 seconds every other fight.

Those 10 points would be better spent towards DET5, which would potentially save you alot more, and for every single fight.

imo ofc :)

Yes i see where u are coming from ... as u can only Purge 1 type of CC ... like say u Purge a mezz and purge 2 is down for 14 minutes and 59 seconds and straight after u are stunned ... this is w/o det ofc :D

Kinda gimp as u can see :p

Wheras is u have Det5 u get mezzed for 7 seconds or so ... even w/o purge if u are stunned after its only for 2-3 seconds or so ... so yes i can see ure point :D
 

sneakies

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I think det5 might be a good starting point tbh - it would significantly lower the mezz duration on you.

25% energy
25% cc reduction
16-24% resist buff
34% det 5

Depending on how the reduction is calculated, and the level of mezz used, this time could be *very* low. I'd personally (if you had a couple of respecs) Get it, and have a bard mezz you, and see what the duration of that mezz is. After all, if the bard in use is a cookie cutter spec - you'll be seeing the reduction gained from a mezz that usually lasts 70 seconds (ignoring all resists, stocism, and duration bonus).

Might be worth a look :)
 

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sneakies said:
I think det5 might be a good starting point tbh - it would significantly lower the mezz duration on you.

25% energy
25% cc reduction
16-24% resist buff
34% det 5

Depending on how the reduction is calculated, and the level of mezz used, this time could be *very* low. I'd personally (if you had a couple of respecs) Get it, and have a bard mezz you, and see what the duration of that mezz is. After all, if the bard in use is a cookie cutter spec - you'll be seeing the reduction gained from a mezz that usually lasts 70 seconds (ignoring all resists, stocism, and duration bonus).

Might be worth a look :)

Det5 is 55% CC reduction, which means you will have 80% CC reduction with stocism.

so with decent resists you are looking at 5-8s red mezz and roots with det5.. I suppose i would go det5 and no purge at higher realm ranks, but purge1 can still be nice against debuffs and the like.
 

Elrandhir

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DET IV, SB3 and p1 when not to high tbh!

I don't have any Purge atm But DET IV and SB3 and it's cool, p2 is a waste of points imo, then rather go DET 5 when possible.

As Hrymf said DET 5 instead of purge tbh, but before you can afford it DET 4 and p1 is nice, and SB3 is a must also imo.

Yes purge is down all to long for it to be worth loosing 10 points on it, DET is always there reducing all CC.
 

Tuorin

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Just get Det5. Purge2+ you only need for shield slams and there's only 2 enemy people that properly slam that I know that do that in cluster rvr. If you are soloing and low rr,then det5 is not value for money though.

Sb3 needs to be coordinated, but getting it before Det5 I dont see why. You need to know when your druid has used bof. It does work fine if you purely use it when approaching casters and your support are oor its effects. More often than not it gets used at same time :p

One of the keys to winning fights is the re-application of cc during a fight. A good group re-apply cc quite often, so purge is never up against good groups.

With Det5, most cc lasts 5seconds. The worst cc is generally single target root when you've been rezzed. Det4 and no sists and low matter and you will really notice that.
 

Nix

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I'd go for Purge2 on lower RRs when you can't afford Det5. Purge1 is useless for heroes imo. Purge2 is good if you need to apply your Bolstering Roar in case of a lost mezz & save your casters & supports purges for later use.

Actually I think I will go for Purge2/Det4/LW/MoP2 at RR5, I think that's a good set of RAs for a hero that solos and groups. SoB3 ofc when I can afford it :)
 

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