Help With pierce Shade template

Neffneff

Fledgling Freddie
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Okay, im really really trying to make a pierce template to satisfy my needs, but im falling just shy of it, so i was wondering if anyone else could do better.

This is what i have so far stats wise:

Config Report

Stats

Str: 89 Int: 0 Hits: 396
Con: 90 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 98 Cha: 0
Qui: 55 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 19 Energy: 17 Crush: 25
Cold: 11 Matter: 11 Thrust: 29 (3)
Heat: 23 Spirit: 10 (5) Slash: 26 (2)

Skills

11 Stealth
11 Critical Strike
11 Piercing
11 Celtic Dual

Cap Increases

11 Dex
5 Qui
200 Hits
15 Str
14 Con

Other Bonuses

2 Casting Speed Bonus
12 Melee Speed Bonus
42 AF Bonus
11 Melee Damage Bonus
12 Style Damage Bonus

Now..what im after is this: i want 390ish HPs and at least 85+ con, it MUST use GS+champ weapon, it Must have 10/10/10 ToA bonuses, it must also have +11 to skills including CD. It MUST have str OR dex overcapped by 12 AND high thrust, so that when i switch to a SCed LW i dont loose anything apart from a little thrust sist(but it would still be over 20%)

the bit i cant manage to do:

i would like another 5 dex OR str cap, doesnt matter which (this would bring the dmg stat equal to my blades temp with aug str3)

i would like another 3/4% on my body sist, another 1/2% on my heat sist, and MAYBE a lil more on my spirit sist, although im fine with dropping 6% off cold if pos.

and last but no means less, i would like another 3/4 points on quickness, as i need 59 to cap.

My aim with this temp, is to make it comparable/better than my present blades temp, then by using it i would gain an advantage RA wise, as i would no longer need aug str3, and therefore could replace it with say MoP4. But i have really hit a wall with this thing, so if you manage to improve it AT ALL in ANY way, please post it here.
 

Windwalka1

Fledgling Freddie
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if u want 10/10/10 go blades, or make a temp which uses a legendary as a mainhand, at least that way u can switch dmg types and maintain the stats if u change weaps, cos ur not gonna get 10/10/10 easily as a pierce shade without gimping sumthin
 

Neffneff

Fledgling Freddie
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Windwalka1 said:
if u want 10/10/10 go blades, or make a temp which uses a legendary as a mainhand, at least that way u can switch dmg types and maintain the stats if u change weaps, cos ur not gonna get 10/10/10 easily as a pierce shade without gimping sumthin

dunno if yer noticed bud, but that IS a temp with 10/10/10 bonuses, and it is also one where i will be able to swap in appropriately SCed LWs, heaters, freezers etc etc.

and i AM blades atm, im looking to the _possibility_ of switching, if i can just refine the template a little.

...anyone had a go at this yet? got anywhere near this standard? anyone want me to post items if it'll help to improve it?
 

Athalas

Fledgling Freddie
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Looking forward to seeing this one tbh.

I'm still pierce though I've respeced yesterday to 50cs, 35env, 34pie, 35st with only 15 in cd with 13 left over. I just didnt auto-train stealth enough as I wanted to go through thid etc...

Have since dropped cs back to 44 and upped cd to 28 which still leaves 12 over. Wish I had auto'd all the way now :(
 

Windwalka1

Fledgling Freddie
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yeah but when u swap out GS u lose that 10/10/10 and u still have 89 str and 98 dex...so ur just screwing urself outta dmg both ways...

and unless u plan on only popping stealthers when remedy is up...19 body is shite

dont take the way ive worded this wrongly. im not right atm but ima try worok one out
 

Windwalka1

Fledgling Freddie
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ok hows this, Mainhand would be fixed Legendary... but well now with the New SC possibilites of that i dont see a problem

workin on it more... but take a look

Statistic
Strength: 101/101
Constitution: 83/85
Dexterity: 98/99
Quickness: 52/80
Hits: 240/240


Resistance
Body: 25/26
Cold: 5/26
Heat: 26/26
Energy: 12/26
Matter: 5/26
Spirit: 13/26
Crush: 25/26
Thrust: 25/26
Slash: 27/26

Skill
Critical Strike: 11/11
Stealth: 11/11
Celtic Dual: 11/11
Piercing: 11/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 38/26
Constitution: 10/26
Dexterity: 24/26
Quickness: 5/26
Hits: 40/200

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 30/50
Style Damage: 8/10
Melee Damage: 11/10
Melee Combat Speed: 12/10
Fatigue: 4/25
 

Groal

Fledgling Freddie
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would be cool if u could post the items u are using in that one, as would give an idea of the items that some1 else may or may not think of a better alternative to.
also you havent mentioned as to what other items u feel are "must haves" or infact if there are any (som, rod etc)
also with no enven i take it ur cool with 2 swaps, or with the +11 to all are u asking for that in enven to (for viper3 maybe ?)
 

Neffneff

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Thanks for the attempt windwalka, but really, i need to stick to my brief above, 240 hits is NO WHERE near enough for me. i have been pierce MOST of my shades life, i know what im doing, yes i loose 2% melee speed, and style bonus when i switch out GS, but then, i get a similar thing atm when i switch out malice, its not the end of the world.

right, items that are a MUST have: RoD, SoM, GS, Champ weapon.

and yes im fine with 2 item swaps to poisen, i have always used two swaps.

right, full template is inc, so people can try and tweak it if nothing else.


Config Report

Stats

Str: 89 Int: 0 Hits: 396
Con: 90 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 98 Cha: 0
Qui: 55 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 19 Energy: 17 Crush: 25
Cold: 11 Matter: 11 Thrust: 29 (3)
Heat: 23 Spirit: 10 (5) Slash: 26 (2)

Skills

11 Stealth
11 Critical Strike
11 Piercing
11 Celtic Dual

Cap Increases

11 Dex
5 Qui
200 Hits
15 Str
14 Con

Other Bonuses

2 Casting Speed Bonus
12 Melee Speed Bonus
42 AF Bonus
11 Melee Damage Bonus
12 Style Damage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor (NS)
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 25 Dexterity - 99 flawless Vapor Essence
Gem 4: 3 Crush Resist - 99 rough Fiery Shielding
Utility: 61.33

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Piercing - 99 flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 3 Critical Strike - 99 rough Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 76 Hits - 99 perfect Blood Essence
Gem 4: 7 Body Resist - 99 imperfect Dusty Shielding
Utility: 68.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Dexterity - 99 precious Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 3 Piercing - 99 rough Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 25 Quickness - 99 flawless Airy Essence
Utility: 66.33

Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars(Tank)
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 5 Stealth - 99 imperfect Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 4 Piercing - 99 flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 7 Constitution - 99 rough Earthen Essence
Utility: 69.67

Right Hand
Name: Golden Spear
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 2: 12 Strength
Effect 3: 12 Dexterity
Effect 4: 7 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 7 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 7 Thrust Resist
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Utility: 58.00

Left Hand
Name: champpierceoffhand
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 2: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 3: 7 Strength
Effect 4: 9 Dexterity
Effect 5: 4 Celtic Dual
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Utility: 30.67

Ranged
Name: 1.85 legsBootsArmsWreath
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 2: 3 Celtic Dual
Effect 3: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Utility: 15.00

Neck
Name: necklace of rapture
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Slash Resist
Effect 2: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 7 Body Resist
Effect 4: 7 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 7 Energy Resist
Utility: 74.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist (strealth)
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: eerie darkness lightning stone1.81
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 5 Cold Resist
Effect 5: 5 Body Resist
Effect 6: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 7: 5 Energy Resist
Effect 8: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 9: 4 Thrust Resist
Utility: 84.00

Belt
Name: Azura Belt
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 22 Strength
Effect 2: 22 Constitution
Effect 3: 60 Hits
Effect 4: 4 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 48 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 44.33

Right Ring
Name: Grimeil's Ring of the Grotesque
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 5 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 5 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 40 Hits
Effect 5: 12 AF Bonus
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 42.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring of Dances (1.81)
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 10 AF Bonus
Utility: 55.00

Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of Heavenly Bodies
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 7 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 80 Hits
Effect 4: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 48 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 46.00

Left Wrist
Name: Zahur Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 60 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: 10 AF Bonus
Utility: 51.00
 

Nuxtobatns

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fek RoD imo and try one without it. Either way some kind of superstealth inc with expansion and NS already gets a free SL like ability after a db.
 

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