Help on Healer + Spiritmaster combo please...

[thegreatest]

Me and a friend are starting on mid/excal to get some break from alb/prydwen. I thought the healer/spiritmaster combo was the best one for fast leveling + most fun (as we are familiar with the bard+enchanter combo). But now my question is, is this combo as good as the bard + enchanter combo? Main con is that the focus shield and pbaoe are both on a different specline on mid, on hib they are both in 1 line. The good thing is that healers have aoe stun so probably can get 2-3 casts in before the mobs are out of stun (so no intercepts for a few casts).

Anyone think this spec may work? And whats the best spec to go on both chars? I thought about 42 pac 33 mending 7 aug, that gives the 2nd best aoe stun + pom 4 + good healing + speed buff...

Spiritmaster spec would be 41 Supp 35 Summ. 3 Dark. for 2nd best pbaoe 3rd best damage shield & decent pet buffs..

Also what about speccing in early levels? More supp for better pbaoe or more summ. for good damage shield? Any help would be more than welcome

 

[Whisperess]

If you're just two people, I would probably suggest a shaman and a tank to begin with.

However:

Your specs would work to level with, but we hardly use the focus shield at all here in mid, usually rely on the AE-stun. ( you have to know what you can kill and how many. )

As final specs, I would recommend neither of them. It looks like you're aiming for the 44 pac/31 mend spec with the healer and 49-50 supp for the spiritmaster - but you could get respec stones later to get those.

( unless ofcourse all you're gonna do is PvE, then those specs you suggested would work just fine ( although I must recommend the 49 pbae ) ).

 

[thegreatest]

Ok when I spec for pbaoe only, wont it be a problem for the pet to keep up aggro so the healer can heal him? Wont the mobs just jump on the healer when he starts healing the pet, because the pet doesnt do any damage to some of the mobs?

 

[Whisperess]

That's why I said you need to know what and how many you can kill

looks like you can do /level 20, why don't you try your spec at lvl 20 and use the free respec to try the other spec and then either stick with it or reroll real quick?

 

[thegreatest]

Yep I can do /level 20, had specced my sm 17 supp 10 summ for decent damage shield, but after you told me to go pbaoe I specced 19 supp 6 summ so I can get the good pbaoe at lvl 21 and still have a focus shield to pull with gonna try it out...

 

[thegreatest]

Doesnt seem to work that well, the focus shield doesnt do any damage at all actually and the lvl 14 pbaoe is not doing that much damage to finish them in a few casts..Also the aoe stun seems to resist quite often (not to mention the next aoe stun is at lvl 33 so between 20-33 will be harder to land stun). But maybe this will change once the sm hits lvl 21 and gets decent pbaoe...Or I shouldnt deleted my enchanter on hib/excal at all

 

[kaod]

For just 2 chars, full Summoning SM is the way to go, with the healer leaning toward a mending spec.

Serenity helps, and Pom1 or 2 is a bonus so some points in pac will do no harm.

SM and healer both fully buff pet, put both dmg shields on pet (1 min realm shield and focus) and concentrate on healing the pet but never before it gets below 50% health.

This is what I am doing atm, and it's very easy levelling and with the pom/serenity you get very little downtime and can take mulitple yellows/oranges without great difficulty.

 

[thegreatest]

So this means just cast both focus shields, send pet in, and wait till the mobs die from the damage they get because of focus shield? That would be boring xp'ing then . But if it works, why not give it a try...Also will the power last till all mobs are dead? Will try that out

btw, is that 2x focus shield = half effect thing fixed on eu servers yet? I know it is on US servers, not sure bout EU..So now the 2nd focus shield only halfs in effectiveness right?

 

[kaod]

Originally posted by thegreatest
So this means just cast both focus shields, send pet in, and wait till the mobs die from the damage they get because of focus shield? That would be boring xp'ing then . But if it works, why not give it a try...Also will the power last till all mobs are dead? Will try that out

btw, is that 2x focus shield = half effect thing fixed on eu servers yet? I know it is on US servers, not sure bout EU..So now the 2nd focus shield only halfs in effectiveness right?

Nerf on focus shield is in 3 patches - so probably EU patch after next.

You can use the conc. box to ensure that focus shield is active, and remember that the weaker shield is on a minute timer.

It can be a bit boring xping that way, but very fast.
As long as the healer has mana to heal the pet, the damage shields ensure that the mobs hit themselves to death before SM mana runs out.
Troll pets tend to work best on passive mode I find, with their back to the mobs, less dex for evade (never evades with back turned anyhow), not proccing BT or and more HP.

 

[thegreatest]

No I meant that I've read somewhere that when you use 2 focus shield the effect of both will be halved. Like:

FDS: 15dps
Realm Focus Shield: 3dps

if you use both, it would be 15+3=18/2= 9dps effective effect. I also read somewhere that they fixed this on US servers. On US its now:

FDS: 15dps
Realm Focus Shield: 3dps

15+(3/2)= 16.5 effective focus...

But, is this thing fixed yet on EU servers?

 

[kaod]

Originally posted by thegreatest
No I meant that I've read somewhere that when you use 2 focus shield the effect of both will be halved. Like:

FDS: 15dps
Realm Focus Shield: 3dps

if you use both, it would be 15+3=18/2= 9dps effective effect. I also read somewhere that they fixed this on US servers. On US its now:

FDS: 15dps
Realm Focus Shield: 3dps

15+(3/2)= 16.5 effective focus...

But, is this thing fixed yet on EU servers?

I've now tested this and the effects do seem to stack.

 

[Norvindus]

My 2 cent.

If you want to run a Healer/Supp Spirit master here are some small tips for one who have done it, and don't want to go to lair to bore yourself to death.

Use pet to draw aggro have the Attack, defend and the passive on your quickbar (Shift+left click and drag them to qbar)

Have the pet drag the aggroed mobs towards the healer and let the healer aoe stun them, thats when the spiritmaster gets to work, best place to be at that point is right in the thick of the monsters. Aoe Debuff them and just fire away with your pbaoe. if the healer (at low lvl) is at same lvl in pac as his normal lvl the stun should 90% stick, and you should with the healers base buff be able to fire around 3-4 pbao's off before the stun wears off. And with a quickcast pbao as the last the mobs should be dead.

Just be ready to run if the stun don't stick


Now what kind of mobs should you be hunting.. Well those that are spirit weak. Every undead in the game is spirit weak and there are loads of those around. Also the following mobs are good for xp.

Morvalts (at low lvl around 30-35 in gripklosa they drop cloth's and staff aswell )

Bergklan also in gripklosa they drop studded, bows and occasionally chain.

The island at munin sound, filled with spirit weak creatures, and those mobs there drop chains and jewels. l(Can't remember the lvls there but they aren't high)

Also in Munin sound you got 2 camps of washed up skelletons which are easy for you when they are orange. they are from lvl 36-40

there are also some spots in our frontiere Jamtlan and Yggdra that are good, added bonus is that at some of these places you get keep bonus.

Anyway have fun doing it.
I have not tried leveling a Summoning specced SM, as I want the action right up front

 

[thegreatest]

thanks for the usefull info

 

[I_R_Big_Troll]

summ spec to 40

hi there

atm myself, 2 healers (both pac) and a shammy BB are doing fixed grp leveling. We've done it from lvl20 and we have flown through the levels. I have gone with summon spec - and we are killing 4->5 purp con mobs at a time with minimal downtime. At lvl 40 I will ofcourse /respec to suppression - as supp is a much more usefull RvR line than summoning. For xp from 40--> 50 we'll get one or 2 more SM's and just pbaoe / stun for the win.

just my 2 coppers worth.