help needed with casting times...

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infernalwrath

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Can anyone tell me the casting time of a 3.2 sec spell with 270 and 258 dex ?
tnx in advance
 
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Aule Valar

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bring on professor pin, it may be something like a 0.3% reduction in time per dex point over 60 but i'm not really sure
 
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deffy

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The gap in cast time isn't huge but it is noticable, the formula is on this forum somewhere...
 
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Daedra

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CT = BT * (1 - (dex - 60) / 600)

CT is your actual Cast Time, BT is Base Time.

Assuming no MotA; with 258 dex CT is 2.144 sec and with 270 dex its 2.08 sec.
 
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Pin

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Originally posted by Daedra
CT = BT * (1 - (dex - 60) / 600)

CT is your actual Cast Time, BT is Base Time.

Assuming no MotA; with 258 dex CT is 2.144 sec and with 270 dex its 2.08 sec.
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and yes, this is correct ;)
 
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Moody

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Cool, a very nice title to search for later :) Beats "Givf hellup" by a mile
 
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Pin

Guest
Originally posted by Daedra
CT = BT * (1 - (dex - 60) / 600)

CT is your actual Cast Time, BT is Base Time.

Assuming no MotA; with 258 dex CT is 2.144 sec and with 270 dex its 2.08 sec.
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I should also comment on how stupid this formula is...

Due to it being nicely linear, the higher your dex goes, the greater the percentage reduction on cast time per point of dex added.

So, if you spend your time buffed then buying Aug Dex works out to be more efficient than buying MotArt... And next patch when buff caps are removed it is simple enough to reduce cast time (of PBAE for example) below 1second.

(It's reasons like this that the 300stat caps were put in in the first place, but instead of remembering this and adding diminishing returns, Mythic kinda forgot)
 
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-Wedge-

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PBAoE below 1 second cast time, I'd like to see that...

You'd need 420 dex to get even at 1 second :

1 = 2.5 * (1 - (420 - 60) / 600)

With the best buffs on my wizard, I get around 300ish dex, you could get higher while playing with base-stats... But I doubt someone could reach 420-dex...
 
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Pin

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Originally posted by -Wedge-
PBAoE below 1 second cast time, I'd like to see that...

You'd need 420 dex to get even at 1 second :

1 = 2.5 * (1 - (420 - 60) / 600)

With the best buffs on my wizard, I get around 300ish dex, you could get higher while playing with base-stats... But I doubt someone could reach 420-dex...
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You're forgetting MotArt on top of high dex. With MotA5 you can get to below 1sec with 380 dex, which isn't likely in Alb, but possible ;) (not so tough for a Luri with 80 base dex though).
 
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-Wedge-

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MoArt modifiers are AFTER dex modifier... Its not added to the dex modifier...

Which kind of makes it hard... According to the damage calc (post above this one) you need MoArt 5 + around 950 dex to hit 1s cast time with 2.5s spell...

MoArt has a bigger advantage if you arent buffed to the bone...
 
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Apathy

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Originally posted by -Wedge-
if you arent buffed to the bone...
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Haha! You? Unbuffed? That'll be the day! :chortle:

a.
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fl_gorre

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more math!
function realmlevel ($rp){
$rap =1;
for ($i=1; $i<11; $i++){
if ($i!=1){
for ($j=0;$j<10;$j++){
$rp_needed = ((25/3)*(pow($rap,3))) - ((25/2)*(pow($rap,2))) + ((25/6)*$rap);

if ($rp_needed <10) {
$rp_needed =0;
}
if ($rp>=$rp_needed) {
$level = 'R'.$i.'L'.$j;
}
$rap++;
}
} else {
for ($j=1;$j<10;$j++){
$rp_needed = ((25/3)*(pow($rap,3))) - ((25/2)*(pow($rap,2))) + ((25/6)*$rap);

if ($rp_needed <10) {
$rp_needed =0;
}
if ($rp>=$rp_needed) {
$level = 'R'.$i.'L'.$j;
}
$rap++;
}

}
}
:p
not my code
but /clap who figured this out
doubt it is even documented by goa
just insert your rp here: http://corpses.fuzzy.be/test/lol.php and you'll know what it does
 
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Pin

Guest
Originally posted by fl_gorre
more math!
function realmlevel ($rp){
$rap =1;
for ($i=1; $i<11; $i++){
if ($i!=1){
for ($j=0;$j<10;$j++){
$rp_needed = ((25/3)*(pow($rap,3))) - ((25/2)*(pow($rap,2))) + ((25/6)*$rap);

if ($rp_needed <10) {
$rp_needed =0;
}
if ($rp>=$rp_needed) {
$level = 'R'.$i.'L'.$j;
}
$rap++;
}
} else {
for ($j=1;$j<10;$j++){
$rp_needed = ((25/3)*(pow($rap,3))) - ((25/2)*(pow($rap,2))) + ((25/6)*$rap);

if ($rp_needed <10) {
$rp_needed =0;
}
if ($rp>=$rp_needed) {
$level = 'R'.$i.'L'.$j;
}
$rap++;
}

}
}
:p
not my code
but /clap who figured this out
doubt it is even documented by goa
just insert your rp here: http://corpses.fuzzy.be/test/lol.php and you'll know what it does
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Errr... See my post from 10 months ago here:

http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?postid=364720#post364720
 
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fl_gorre

Guest
gogogo Dr. Pin :)
i wasnt aware of this fact , discovered it last night :p
 
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infernalwrath

Guest
tnx all guys ... still dont know how i will spec my cleric ....
40 e 36 r or 43 r 32 e .... thats why i asked with blue dex/quick my cleric will have 258 dex with yellow 270 but idont know after 1.62 what will my dex be :(
casting 3.2 sec heal as primary and 3.5 sec spread heal needs ALOT of dex to make it worth it :(
 
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Pin

Guest
Originally posted by -Wedge-
According to the damage calc (post above this one) you need MoArt 5 + around 950 dex to hit 1s cast time with 2.5s spell...
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According to the damage calc: "This version of the damagecalc assumes a 1% casting speed increase for each 10 dex under 250, like the herald says. This may actually be wrong."

And you know as well as I do that it is indeed wrong, because otherwise you'd be casting PBAE at 1.85s now, instead of the ~1.5 which you actually do.
 
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Pin

Guest
Originally posted by infernalwrath
tnx all guys ... still dont know how i will spec my cleric ....
40 e 36 r or 43 r 32 e .... thats why i asked with blue dex/quick my cleric will have 258 dex with yellow 270 but idont know after 1.62 what will my dex be :(
casting 3.2 sec heal as primary and 3.5 sec spread heal needs ALOT of dex to make it worth it :(
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Okay...

The thing that changes in 1.62 is that buffs will no longer be capped at 1xlevel for base and 1.5xlevel for spec. Thus you'll get slightly more increase from the level 40 spec dex (but not a big change from now).

I would also say that 41r, 35e is better than 43r 32e ;)
 
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infernalwrath

Guest
Originally posted by Pin
Okay...

The thing that changes in 1.62 is that buffs will no longer be capped at 1xlevel for base and 1.5xlevel for spec. Thus you'll get slightly more increase from the level 40 spec dex (but not a big change from now).

I would also say that 41r, 35e is better than 43r 32e ;)
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the lvl 41 heal is too expensive the 100%rezz does not matter for me and the 39 spread heal ehmm 30-35% power usage :( ..
I am going for the lvl 43 heal slow heal but hte best one in healing power and mana usage
Still 40 e 36 r is the i will go i think
 
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