Help deciding on 1.85 template

[Neffneff]

Config Report

Stats

Str: 104 Int: 0 Hits: 400
Con: 95 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 30 Cha: 0
Qui: 60 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 21 Energy: 12 Crush: 26
Cold: 11 Matter: 11 Thrust: 25 (3)
Heat: 24 Spirit: 16 (5) Slash: 29 (2)

Skills

11 Critical Strike
11 Stealth
11 Celtic Dual
11 Blades

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dex
5 Qui
200 Hits
33 Str
19 Con

Other Bonuses

11 Melee Damage Bonus
5 Fatigue
30 AF Bonus
10 Melee Speed Bonus
13 Style Damage Bonus



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Config Report

Stats

Str: 104 Int: 0 Hits: 400
Con: 96 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 30 Cha: 0
Qui: 58 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 21 Energy: 10 Crush: 25
Cold: 17 Matter: 17 Thrust: 24 (3)
Heat: 22 Spirit: 20 (5) Slash: 28 (2)

Skills

11 Stealth
11 Critical Strike
11 Celtic Dual
11 Blades

Cap Increases

5 Dex
5 Qui
200 Hits
23 Str
19 Con

Other Bonuses

11 Melee Damage Bonus
5 Fatigue
42 AF Bonus
13 Style Damage Bonus
8 Melee Speed Bonus

Please give reason's, i honestly cant make my mind up between 10% extra sists spread about and 12 extra AF, OR, 2% extra melee speed, 1 more quickness, 3 more str, and the ability to swap out champ weapon without loosing str cap.

also if you think both are gimp, please state why and let me know

 

[Wilburn]

plz show the template, cant comment on skills without showing items, jewels, All templates can look good in teh summery, but can be very crap when showing items !

 

[Neffneff]

they use champ+malice, has SoM, GoV, and RoD and scalars

 

[Wilburn]

they use champ+malice, has SoM, GoV, and RoD and scalars

so you will need 4 crafted armor pieces i'd guess. try to make those parts using max 99% armor pieces then, because making templates with 4 100% armor pieces of the new armor is hard work for crafters, and will cost you a truckload of plats. And in my opinion templates are best if the template can be finished within a reasonable ammount of time, using a minimum of resources.

 

[Neffneff]

the one with 10% melee spd only uses 3 SCed parts, and they will be 100% pieces, after all, i have a perfectly good template, ill be in no rush to finish this one.

but the question remains...which one?

 

[Wilburn]

I wouldn'n know which one is best, never played shade, and have very little experience playing assasins.

I was merely pointing out, as a crafter, that making mp's of the new armor will be hard work, not very common and prolly shit expensive. But feel free to either craft it yourself or order it/buy it off CM's.
My argumentation is that if the new armor in any way resembles the legendary weapons crafting, how many MP lgm is out there and at which price ? The components used may drop in stacks of 5, which only make it 1/5 of the work making MP LGW, but still a pain in the butt to make.

but then again, lets see how difficult it is, when the new patch strikes us.. around christmas ?

 

[Windwalka1]

pm me / post the build plz, its nice but tbh i like having 26% body

id say template 1. since ur actually getting the 101str outta it, and 10melee speed, ok 10 less AF but well i dunno how much difference that makes since ive never seen tests dun.

but i prefer having higher resists all round whilst only sacrificing 36 hits

 

[crispy]

I wouldn'n know which one is best, never played shade, and have very little experience playing assasins.

I was merely pointing out, as a crafter, that making mp's of the new armor will be hard work, not very common and prolly shit expensive. But feel free to either craft it yourself or order it/buy it off CM's.
My argumentation is that if the new armor in any way resembles the legendary weapons crafting, how many MP lgm is out there and at which price ? The components used may drop in stacks of 5, which only make it 1/5 of the work making MP LGW, but still a pain in the butt to make.

but then again, lets see how difficult it is, when the new patch strikes us.. around christmas ?

Think the people who want the new armor are required to farm the extra materials themselves :> Won't be any extra hassle for the crafters. Sorta like aurulite armor

 

[Wilburn]

Think the people who want the new armor are required to farm the extra materials themselves :> Won't be any extra hassle for the crafters. Sorta like aurulite armor

No prolly not for the crafters, but seeing templates with 3-4 mp items with the new armor, and given the usual retries on mp items, do you have any idea how many material you would need to farm, even if the materials drops in stacks of 5. Thats gonna take some time pveing materials. But as i stated before, lets see how difficult it is when patch strikes. Or if any of the guys playing US servers could give a clue as to how many mp armors they have seen on CM's overthere, and at what price.

 

[Windwalka1]

sure it wont be too hard since i still see lots of temps on VN boards using MP pieces with the armour bonuses.

 

[Wilburn]

sure it wont be too hard since i still see lots of temps on VN boards using MP pieces with the armour bonuses.

but is anyone crafting those MP pieces ?.. I can make a template with 6 mp pieces, but then i can make them myself. I wanna know if NON crafters are ever gonna get their hands of these items.

 

[Windwalka1]

yah but by now there wuda been changes in the temps to accomodate these facts, so im assuming its not too hard to get ur hands on em, probably like alchemy drops if u get in the right spot they were never too hard to farm

 

[Punishment]

Point is Wilburn ... some people will go to great lengths to make sure the mains are always in the best of the best ... i have no problem farming red con mobs on my shade for 20h+ if it means i can compete ... 99% just isnt an option and i trust crafters i use ... i know they wont hold back on me with the Mp they get

On topic ... i like the 1st one Neff ... but u gotta cap body man(U will get hit by dotmines for like 25-30 extra a tick with 22-23 body resist which over 8 ticks or so kinda pisses all over ure hard work getting a 95 con 400hp template ... even with 25% my shade gets hit for 10-15 extra )

 

[Napshot]

looks nice prety much same stats as my infil temp in this patch

 

[Neffneff]

but u gotta cap body man(U will get hit by dotmines for like 25-30 extra a tick with 22-23 body resist which over 8 ticks or so kinda pisses all over ure hard work getting a 95 con 400hp template ... even with 25% my shade gets hit for 10-15 extra )

isnt DoT mine essence dmg?

the only things i was worrying about with low body is when i dont hit remedy, and mincer DDs.

 

[Aiteal]

the new armour aint so bad to get Neff

I farmed 300 patterns in 2 hours in Sheeroe Hills on US classic
The green con glimmerlings at the entrance to SH drop them in stacks of six
Not every time, but I could 2 shot them as a ranger so it was no biggie as it gave double CL xp also

And you can always use my LGM tailor, with the 10% bonus to chance to make an MP that US servers have when crafting in TNN, that with any luck will make it onto this server next patch
a few MP pieces will be no biggie

A like the idea of swapping personally
the easiest assassins to kill in my experince are those that limit themselves to templates that dont allow them to reapply once you purge.
Also known as the QQ Melee Rangers are OP'ed brigade.

 

[Windwalka1]

well thats that sorted dropping of green cons= no problems pull 100 odd with chanter and voila u have ur template guaranteed in one pull xD i joke but well yesh it sounds nice

 

[Neffneff]

Thanks for the information Aiteal mate, makes me feel alot more at ease.

I'll keep fiddling with the 1st temp i think incase i manage to improve the sists a lil, but i get the feeling it's template number 1 for me come 1.85.