Healer spec and leveling

[phillies]

I was wondering if anyone know about a guide / lvling-guide for healer (the one on daoc.stratics I feel is too general, and the other ones I've found elsewhere was basically just copyed from there) ... Also I'd like to know what to spec at diff lvl's so I'll continue beeing a good part of a group... I'm only lvl 8 atm so dont feel that I could have done to much "damage" to the build yet

Anyways... leveling and general guide from experienced healers (gameplay-guide¿) needed greatly ... I'm not a total noob but it's close :uhoh:

 

[old.Leel]

Well, I have no idea why you need a guide cuz it's pretty easy, but here's basically what I did.
First you need some healing of course, get mending to 7 so you have both cure disease and cure poison. Then take aug to 5 for the smallest run buff. Then take pac to 4 so you get the mana regen. You are now level 10.
At level 15, you should have about 10 mend and 9 pac.
At 20 you really should aim to have mana regen 2, which means 15 pac. This means you will only have 11 mending, but it's still ok. From now on, work on your mending skill till you get 22 mending for the second insta heal. You will probably never spec mending again after this, you MIGHT wanna put another two points in there for better rez, but that's it, at least in this patch. Now you need to work more on your pac skill, as it will become important with crowd control from now on. Better mana regen is also always highly sought after.
If you want to get a higher aug skill, then I suggest you do that after you have gotten the first insta heal maybe. The run buff at 15 aug does help. But in the end, it's your call

 

[illu]

Like leel said

Basically you have to decide what "type" of healer you want to become. If you want to be more of a solo-ist with some nice aug buffs and resists, go spec AUG. If you want to heal people and be useful in your group, spec more MEND. But you definitely need PAC too for the mana regen and the Crowd Control Mezzes and Stuns.

Some Common End Templates:-
m27 a27 p38
m24 a5 p48

I'm the top one, will be respeccing to the lower one (respeccing to get more mana regen and greater radius / longer lasting mezzes and stuns)

Basically by the time you get to Malmohus, i.e. lvl 40ish you need strong PAC to mezz the mobs you encounter.

And the more PAC you have - the more PoM you get (mana regen), and Runey's will love you.

Oli - ILLU

 

[old.Rusfighter]

m22 p38 aXX - well rounded one

 

[infozwerg]

specc 5 points in augmentation

specc 12 points in mending

specc 38 spoints in pacification

specc 10 more points in mend to get it to 22

I. specc 10 more points in pac to get it to 48, spend rest in aug to get it to 11

II. specc 30 more points in aug to bring it to 35

I. has better cc; II. has better haste buff and resist buffs

gameplay pve: pull with root, mezz mobs, NEVER heal casters or rogues who have aggro, NEVER use insta heals unless you can take the aggro of all mobs.

gameplay pvp: group with skald and rm for speed and bt, mezz, stun & enjoy the UBERness. NEVER group thanes or rm who cast ae.

 

[-fonS-]

NEVER heal casters or rogues who have aggro, NEVER use insta heals unless you can take the aggro of all mobs.

ill never let a guy die cause of his class ... nomatter class / reason i allways healed dmged ppl i my party not a single time caused wipeout ...

 

[mele-nko]

RvR: Unless u play in a team with multiple ae'rs. An ae stun + 3-4-5 runemasters ae nuking is the closest one will every be to armageddon.

 

[old.chesnor]

Soon Midgard will have pbaoe. Healer AE stun + SM pbaoe = exp heaven...

Just get your SM to pull with AE debuff, healer stuns, SMs bomb away. OMG PBAOE rocks!!!11. Not sure if the Middys will take to it quickly though. They all a bit stuck in the 1 mob at a time, Healer mezzing, loads of tanks exp system.

Forget which patch SM get pbaoe, but it will change the way Middys exp (and if it doesn't you all suck ;p ) forever.

 

[Archeon]

Originally posted by illu
Basically by the time you get to Malmohus, i.e. lvl 40ish you need strong PAC to mezz the mobs you encounter.

actually mes/stun resist isn't determined by pacification lvl, its determined by actual lvl. Pac spec just increases the duration spells in the pac line.

but yeah, i've mend specced and i constantly have runies bitching at me about my low pac (pot up untill today, now i got poi ) then i just remove it and they turn off pbt in protest

but at the same time, having a high mend means that the minor heals you have are just as effective if not more than non-mend specced people, and as for the majors... well i've had tanks kissing the group i walk on, as well as the 100/50 res being very useful if you need to get sombody up and back into action quickly.

it depends how you want to play more than anything

Mend=group slave
Aug=soloer
Pac=RvR god

...but then again, the majority of healers are pacification specced to become RvR gods. so its kinda nice to be able to say

"yeah, i'm not pac specced" when your being praised by tanks for keeping them alive and all the pac dudes are sitting around getting pissed at thanes/runies breaking their AE mez

 

[candour]

/em cheers Archeon for being a mend specced healer

I play with 27/27/38, gets me all the instant heals and AE stun/mezs while still having a decent amount of healing and buffs.

Like you say, depending on how you spec governs who loves you
Mend/aug spec means the tanks love you, pac spec means runeys love you Personally I like tank cos they have useful stuff like guard/protect, and the runeys are just paper wearing backstab targets. Lets face it, if a runey gets hit once they are totally planked, may as well concentrate on the people that can survive more than one hit.

Oh and as for having purity of meditation, I have 1 word for you:
Serenity.

And if anyone is interested, I played around a little with buffs at different aug levels. My dex buff is about 10 points more effective than somebody with aug 6. Might not sound like much but if you continue that across all 16 buffs that's 160 extra points I'm buffing for. Not too shoddy.

Incidentally, healers get stacks more buffs next patch, worth bearing in mind before everyone respends to lose their aug.

What was the thread about again? Oh yeah, how to spec as you're going up. The message Leel posted is pretty good, the only determining factor is what way you want to go at the end.

 

[Archeon]

Originally posted by candour
/em cheers Archeon for being a mend specced healer

hehe, not totally mend specced.

if i went 50/X/X then i'd get a heal on a 2.74 cast timer (0.4secs slower than the base-line most healers use) that reportedly heals upto 1K of health!!

can't wait till they switch gorre to excal so i can try this, though i hear it chews through mana like nobodys business and i'd have to sacrafice a lot

dunno, i dinged 50 tonight and my final spec was...

mend:40, Aug:21, Pac: 29

so far it seems to be working, but then i only played for 2hr's after i dinged before i got bored with looking at my epic armour and logged

 

[Veluden]

Yes but being PAC specced, the realm points I save from not needing serenity allows me to get the big RAs perfect recovery and MOC quicker.

I will be trying an AUg mend healer spec on gorre though.

 

[infozwerg]

mend:40, Aug:21, Pac: 29

so basically you have no ae instas, shit ae stun and laughable ae mezz, but you can ress like a god.

gratz m8.

 

[Archeon]

Originally posted by infozwerg
so basically you have no ae instas, shit ae stun and laughable ae mezz, but you can ress like a god.

I'm sorry i wasn't aware there was aware that having a high pacification level was a requirement of healers

And i'd hardly call a 7sec AE stun, and 43sec AE mez shockingly bad


look at it from my point of view, most healers in midgard ARE pacification specced. with all these people blasting off their long duration AE's why do i need to as well? I'd rather specialise in a line that suits my style of playing than to be just another healer drone with high pacification (no offense intended high pac healers)


Vel, having the l4 res means i don't need PR and therefore don't need to waste what is it 14 RSP on it? lets be honest with most tanks having the purge ability, and most casters have MCL the only think PR has over me is the fact that its instant, which in my eyes hardly justifys the cost.

but like i said thats my opinion i know other people think differently and respect that they do

 

[Veluden]

You forget PR also has no rez sickness. Its a battle rez.

 

[Archeon]

a battle res for a single person on a 15min timer


think of it likes bolts and DD's

bolts do heavy damage from long range but have a res-cast timer so you can't spam them and they only work on a single target

DD's do moderate damage from closer range but can be chain casted and can effect many people in a short ammount of time.

I'm the dark spec runie of healers

 

[candour]

I'm with Archeon on this one. Instant AE stun/mez is nice and all, and I do use it a lot in RVR. But... It's a one shot job and about all it's good for is blowing the enemies purge once.

In the current patch that's fine, you can just chain-mez them into the floor after, but next patch when purge works right you get the 1min immunity timer.

What does high pac level actually, in the real world, give:
Given a 27/27/38 spec (like mine):
Purity of Contemplation (level 4 mana regen)
AE mez 52 seconds
AE stun 9 seconds
Instant mez 22 seconds
AE instant mez 26 seconds 150 radius
Instant stun 8 seconds
AE instant stun 9 seconds

Given a 24/6/48 spec (like those gimpy can't buff for toffee peeps):
Purity of Meditation (level 5 mana regen)
AE mez 65 seconds
AE stun 9 seconds
Instant mez 22 seconds
AE instant mez 31 seconds 300 radius
Instant stun 8 seconds
AE instant stun 9 seconds

Um hate to tell you this... But that's a massive difference of 13 seconds on AE mez, and 5 seconds on AE insta mez.

So you're telling me that 5 seconds on your instant is that big?

Think not. I'll take my buffs and healing and be very happy thanks

 

[old.Leel]

Hmm, I'm pretty sure the 42 pac ae stun is 11 secs, not 9. That's where I stopped. Wish I had stopped at 38 or 39 though, so I could have had better aug.
My spec right now is 23 aug, 24 mend and 42 pac.
It will be 36 aug, 24 mend and 32 pac after respec.
Was gonna go 39 aug, but I just can't lose the 24 mend rez, so I had to change my spec:-/ No 39 aug self damage buff and no 38 spec energy resist buff. It does mean I get the 9 sec ae stun instead of the 7 sec one though, and that is a BIG difference.

 

[candour]

My bad it's a typo

Just checked, it's apparently a 10 second stun:

http://copland.udel.edu/~trevor/camelot/spells/M_Healer.shtml

 

[infozwerg]

you should mention +1 mana regen, +1 second ae stun, and your instas are 300 radius, which is a difference like day and night.

i always thought albs and hibs are whiners for complaining so much about instamezz unless that moment when at lvl 49.5 i first used pacifying gaze. now pacifying glare is just a good version of clerics pbae mezz, a get out of jail free in some situations, maybe sometimes you can mezz 3 all at once.

on the other hand, pacifying gaze is so fucking amazing its not even pretty.

and keep in mind that with resists on mezz, mezz being less effective on ae, and determination every second mezz lenght counts.

also keep in mind that EACH AND EVERY bard in this game will have entrancing harmony, his equivalent of pacifying gaze.

in any encounter with hibs, any group without pac specced healer will have a serious disadvantage. they will not even NEED grouppurge to beat up groups with gimp healers like leel.

another sidenote, you can ae mezz after instamezz, immunity timer is only against the same spell.

 

[Runolaz]

I'm really not bringing anything into this thread other than STUF Estat. Read what Fons wrote, If you still don't get it read it again. I also think it's up too Leel to decide what works for him. It may be that your char is ok specced, but it doesn't matter, your gimping yourself only by the way you are...get a life and stop printing out of your arse...

As I've said b4...I would rather /release that than have you rez me...twat...

 

[illu]

Hmmm.

I wish I was decisive.

I'm going through the same feelings with my healer now as my shadowblade - as to what is the best spec to have.

Thankfully - I have come to a conclusion for my SB, and I think I have too for my Healer.

I quite like the way my Healer has turned out with the m27, a27, p38, but I have always wanted the wider radius and the POM, even though some RA's can make up this POM shortfall (MCL and Serenity). But at the end of the day, I think the extra radius and the POM just convince me that that is the way to go, and yes I lose some self buff damage / speed and some other resistance buffs, but there we are. It's just a sacrifice that has to be taken for the sake of RvR and keeping myself and Runey's happy

Oli - ILLU

 

[opoc]

Originally posted by infozwerg
NEVER group thanes or rm who cast ae.

Thats a bit mean

I use AoE with my Thane, works nicely becuase everything else is on damn timers. Yet I am usually careless with my AoE stuff on whatever class im playing.

Haven't broke one mezz with my Thane yet though

 

[zagor]

was also looking into healer specs and after talking with a few high lvl healers and reading written info on healers came to the decision (with help) that a good spec for the healer would be Mend 23 Aug 30 (cos of the new aug line thats comming) and pac 38. Hope this helps

 

[Veluden]

Just been trying out a 49 aug 22 mend and 5 pac spec on Gorre. It doesn't make you a dueling god by any stretch of the imagination but it changes the scope of who you can solo certainly.
Without factoring in FA/IP I was able to beat a Champ in epic armour earlier. Some really nice self-buffs plus the brilliance that is celerity( though this can be interrupted way too easely, needs to be a shout). Turned a thane into a uber polearm killer.
Still the line seems a bit empty imo, even with your self-buffs you can die in 4-hits. Maybe some self- melee resist buffs should be put in the line?

Also I think seeing this, a balanced template is the best way to go. Though having some high pac healers to please the runies and high aug ones ( and mend archeon )to please the tanks would be nice.

 

[cindiki]

it depends

I think healer spec really depends on the style of person..

if you agrohealer and sometimes like solo - you should go for Aug,
if you like to heal/rezz ppl - Mend,
If you enjoy crowd control and fast mana regen - Pacification is your choice.

I personally think, that stun/mezz rules RvR in this game, even in later versions of it. So, its essential we have most of healers specced in PAC (and we do). BUT.. Mend/Aug healers will make mids even more overpowered.


warmest regards,
Cindi

 

[old.Leel]

Yup, agree with Veluden. I tested the 36 aug template yesterday, and I wasn't too impressed about how I do in duels. So I think I'll just respec pac down to 38 instead of 28 (or was it 29). The insta ae mez/stun come in handy way too often.

 

[Archeon]

Originally posted by Veluden
and mend archeon

hehe, 50 mend was nice and all but i doubt i'l change from my current M40/A21/P29 spec. though i do have one thing to say


Lvl 50 mend, greater emendation with wild healing 3...

...well damn! can you say...

"you healed XXX for 800+"

no? how about...

"you healed XXX for 800+"
"you crit healed for 300+"
"you healed XXX for 1025!! YES ONE THOUSAND AND TWENTY FIVE, DAMN ARCHEON YOUR SO UBER"

(its a log cut i swear )

oh and it had a 2sec cast time (about the same cast speed as 'emendation')


still, with only pot it really really burns the mana reserves fast. 1/5 of my mana gone in a single cast i spent most of the time in gorre sitting on my ass trying to get enough mana back to res/heal peeps


So, my advice...

Specialise in a line, but not to the point that your sacrafice the effectivness of the other two

 

[illu]

Just plough all your Realm Points into getting that mana bar going up quicker...

Augmented Acuity + Serenity + Mystic Crystal Lore....for starters

Oli - ILLU