Has Darkspire outlived itself?

[Aberrathien]

Well as i had to cancel my raid this evening bcos someone suddelnly had to leave and i keep having trouble getting pp, to come and then getting replacements if they dont show, i wanna know how ppl feel about darkspire... Arent ppl interested in doing the raids? If not, theres no reason for me to run them... Thats all...

Aber

 

[Spamb0t]

Dunno, havent ever been there and have no interest.
Dunno, but am willing to go.

id pick some option between those ;p
never been there, might go some day... but i wouldnt say 'willing to go' ;O

 

[Ixoth]

I fancy to go there aber time to time, so just keep on redoing those raids - patience is a virtue don't give up.

 

[Zardoz]

There are some sought after DS items, str/dex/qui bracer to name a few, i'm more than willing to help out if i see the message on /as. Tho signing up in advance depends on the wife.

Please keep running these, some weeks they may not go but you just need to be firmer, for example do you request that players confirm thier slot? also you could try bribery and start a mod system that might make more ppl actually turn up.

 

[Lagas]

this is just how i feel about it, option a is specifically from what i hear everytime i try getting guildies to help me farm the dex ring, as its only piece im missing

a) most of the people who played on glaston/lamorak/gareth have farmed the shit outta it approx 30+ times, and hence gets very bored with it, for some wirred reason.

b) full darkspire raids aint really giving what people are looking for, most people now adays are only after the jevelery stuff, specifically ring/bracers

 

[Bluesky]

Ive run a few DS raids and found that its quite fun once you get to the spire but the "getting there" is quite dull though (pull 3 mobs, kill, move, rinse and repeat) and usually only people who want specific drops want to go on public raids. Guild raids are usually much more fun but I guess a lot of people arent able to make a guild hunt for it.

 

[Leel]

Well, I wouldn't mind going there, but your raid times never suit me. I joined a farming session and we did four runs or so on hib, that's the only chance I've had to join darkspire raids.

 

[Kvadi]

I would go but:

1. I have been away from the game for last 4 months and

2. Since I came back your raids times are a little too early for me (I've a young family that I put first these days).

I wish you luck though and think you should keep running them.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Ive been on 5 DS raids, and Id never go again, its the most aweful waste of an hour in this game besides crafting. No adventure at all. The decent rewards are too few and far between, it takes too long to complete and without a decent group of players, its virtually impossible.

Add to your poll:

Been and got so bored I would never go again.

 

[Nate]

I would go but:

1. I have been away from the game for last 4 months and

2. Since I came back your raids times are a little too early for me (I've a young family that I put first these days).

I wish you luck though and think you should keep running them.

welcome back krago

i've been and i usually go with 1 other guildee but only for the first 5 bosses, i dont really have an interest in going further although it may be fun.

 

[Aberrathien]

There are some sought after DS items, str/dex/qui bracer to name a few, i'm more than willing to help out if i see the message on /as. Tho signing up in advance depends on the wife.

Please keep running these, some weeks they may not go but you just need to be firmer, for example do you request that players confirm thier slot? also you could try bribery and start a mod system that might make more ppl actually turn up.

Well the problem is that the new guild im in doesnt have an alliance as the one whos gonna inv us to alliance almost never is online, Im already doing the confirming thing, and well its working alright, just doesnt help a bit when ppl confirm and then decie to not show themselve after all. Bribery? Hmm... Dont like the thought...

 

[SkarIronfist]

I don't mind Darkspire, since when its run well, its a 1hr 30 - 2hr raid, which is a good amount of time. Not to long and not to short.

It has some very nice items, at least for the suits that I am building.

 

[Ixoth]

Well the problem is that the new guild im in doesnt have an alliance as the one whos gonna inv us to alliance almost never is online, Im already doing the confirming thing, and well its working alright, just doesnt help a bit when ppl confirm and then decie to not show themselve after all. Bribery? Hmm... Dont like the thought...

Ban such users from further raids.. if one confirms his/her spot to the raid, and don't got good reason to not show up -> ban.

 

[Aberrathien]

Ban such users from further raids.. if one confirms his/her spot to the raid, and don't got good reason to not show up -> ban.

Done allready. Banlist is getting quite long now, hence fewer ppl coming to raids..

 

[Ixoth]

Done allready. Banlist is getting quite long now, hence fewer ppl coming to raids..

Oh.. well if the thing that I'd come more often to your DS raids would cheer you up - I can sign up more often then

 

[Dest]

I was on one of your former raids and it went quite well. Some people might join because they find it fun but as others said... some done Darkspire 20+ times on Glastonbury so they are only joining because they need the items/money. I am in the last category.

Ironically the more interesting part of Darkspire is the last part but the items dropped there are only really useful as pve items. What I am trying to say is... personally I dont care about the last part - only the first. So doing a full raid will most likely not make me sign up again unless I really need something from there.

 

[Takhasis]

i'll quite happily join again with either Kirvs, Bilbari, or Hartraft

 

[Lagas]

I don't mind Darkspire, since when its run well, its a 1hr 30 - 2hr raid, which is a good amount of time. Not to long and not to short.

shouldnt take more than approx 45min- 1h tough for full spire run

but i agree with most that has been said here, the first part of the instance is pretty dull, but its also there that the stuff thats actually worth anything drops unfortunately, the spire itself is prolly one of the funnier things in pve u can do

 

[Joohl]

Tuseday at 20:00cet is abit to early for me, so with current IRL work I can only join every other week.

If I like DS raids? YES, especialy with a good tank group setup like yours Aberr.. More raids like this if you ask me, alternative raid where you only do cave part like 3-4 times aswell, as the good stuff dropp there.

Ohh and I still need that Villioanus Darkspire Adroit Ring so plz do keep up the raids.

For those who never been to DS, I'd like to say that this cave is most fun PvE that you can do with a FG, and theres only TG that comme to par. Then again TG needs more than FG to compleet.

 

[vavires]

i like htem a lot aber, just dont got time always when u run them.

 

[Vonwar]

In a way i think that Darkspire has outrun itself. There is not much that we the players can do about it.

I will try to describe the problems i see here:

P: problem
S: possible solution

P:- You can only go there with a group, not with extra BB's meaing you need 8 active players to take mobs down in a short time.

S: Instead of making Darkspire a dungeon, i could wish it to be a normal dungeon, so we could go there 2-3 players with our extra accounts and farm the needed stuff we and the guild needs.

P: Too low drop rate for the items ppl need for their template.

S: Change the droprate here in Darkspire, like all over ToA and other zones for important Drops needed for template. ex. not 2% like now, but 10% or even higher, so ppl dont have to go x number of times before "THE" bracer or necklace, ring or what ever they just need for completing their template will drop. This will cause more finished templates, meaning more ppl in RvR, and less overpricing for RoG drops.

well it might not be the only solutiuon, but just my humble opinion.

Regards

Vonwar
GM Danish Huscarls

 

[Ixoth]

In a way i think that Darkspire has outrun itself. There is not much that we the players can do about it.

I will try to describe the problems i see here:

P: problem
S: possible solution

P:- You can only go there with a group, not with extra BB's meaing you need 8 active players to take mobs down in a short time.

S: Instead of making Darkspire a dungeon, i could wish it to be a normal dungeon, so we could go there 2-3 players with our extra accounts and farm the needed stuff we and the guild needs.

P: Too low drop rate for the items ppl need for their template.

S: Change the droprate here in Darkspire, like all over ToA and other zones for important Drops needed for template. ex. not 2% like now, but 10% or even higher, so ppl dont have to go x number of times before "THE" bracer or necklace, ring or what ever they just need for completing their template will drop. This will cause more finished templates, meaning more ppl in RvR, and less overpricing for RoG drops.

well it might not be the only solutiuon, but just my humble opinion.

Regards

Vonwar
GM Danish Huscarls

While I partly agree, I think its best to keep the real good items drop rate as as low as it is now. I think letting real good items to drop more often wouldn't be a good idea because:
-it would devalue the real good items
-against the ideology of doing things together as a group instead of doing it with 2-3 ppl - doing things as a group together, thats what this game is all about imho
-I think the game has already been made too easy (compared what it was 1-2 years back), this change would make it easier.

 

[Aberrathien]

In a way i think that Darkspire has outrun itself. There is not much that we the players can do about it.

I will try to describe the problems i see here:

P: problem
S: possible solution

P:- You can only go there with a group, not with extra BB's meaing you need 8 active players to take mobs down in a short time.

S: Instead of making Darkspire a dungeon, i could wish it to be a normal dungeon, so we could go there 2-3 players with our extra accounts and farm the needed stuff we and the guild needs.

P: Too low drop rate for the items ppl need for their template.

S: Change the droprate here in Darkspire, like all over ToA and other zones for important Drops needed for template. ex. not 2% like now, but 10% or even higher, so ppl dont have to go x number of times before "THE" bracer or necklace, ring or what ever they just need for completing their template will drop. This will cause more finished templates, meaning more ppl in RvR, and less overpricing for RoG drops.

well it might not be the only solutiuon, but just my humble opinion.

Regards

Vonwar
GM Danish Huscarls

Hmm... Well i would wish i could do such things, but mebbe i can run DS raids like doing only cave 2 or 3 times every few weeks compared to the standard full raid the other weeks? Would that work for u?

 

[Nul]

Well, I always try to join. (And be there in time.. I set an alarm on my mobile
phone 10 mins b4 it starts)


Aberrathien:
I would like to suggest having a run in DF instead of DS.
There is some quite nice drops there, equal to DS items. Last time my guild had one we also lotted seals as one part, so one guy got ~ 500+ dia seals.

We did:
Kobil
Princess Nehmah
Gatekeeper
3 high lords
alb prince (I think..)

Died just after killing alb prince due some unlucky spawn. Our plan was to do
hib prince and mid prince after that.

I think grp setup was like this:
2 x warr, 2 x a/m healer, 1 WL, 2 x thane and 1 zerk.
A setup I strongly recomend.

 

[Ixoth]

Well, I always try to join. (And be there in time.. I set an alarm on my mobile
phone 10 mins b4 it starts)


Aberrathien:
I would like to suggest having a run in DF instead of DS.
There is some quite nice drops there, equal to DS items. Last time my guild had one we also lotted seals as one part, so one guy got ~ 500+ dia seals.

We did:
Kobil
Princess Nehmah
Gatekeeper
3 high lords
alb prince (I think..)

Died just after killing alb prince due some unlucky spawn. Our plan was to do
hib prince and mid prince after that.

I think grp setup was like this:
2 x warr, 2 x a/m healer, 1 WL, 2 x thane and 1 zerk.
A setup I strongly recomend.

Prince and Princess have been made harder, I wonder has their drops been made any better to reflect the added difficulty?

 

[Nul]

Prince and Princess have been made harder, I wonder has their drops been made any better to reflect the added difficulty?

I can agree they are _alot_ harder. A real challenge as one group.

Most drops have dual procs and stat cap increase.
Hammer:
http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=25081
Bracer:
http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=25076

 

[SkarIronfist]

Its the Adriot ring and belt that most people want which comes from darkspire.

 

[xGenocidex]

Darkspire is just for twinking alts as stated above theres very few items that makes it even worth doing anymore :/ do darkness falls like also suggested above if you want cash... alot faster cash than darkspire (why i hear you ask?) because you don't have to go purely off chance in df for something dropping to make money you get diamond seals and they are guarateed cash unlike useless weapons... or rings etc that no one uses from darkspire...

 

[vavires]

Darkspire is just for twinking alts as stated above theres very few items that makes it even worth doing anymore :/ do darkness falls like also suggested above if you want cash... alot faster cash than darkspire (why i hear you ask?) because you don't have to go purely off chance in df for something dropping to make money you get diamond seals and they are guarateed cash unlike useless weapons... or rings etc that no one uses from darkspire...

and still ive gotten 100p on selling the dex and str stuff from ds

 

[xGenocidex]

and still ive gotten 100p on selling the dex and str stuff from ds

Which isnt a 100% drop rate on the ring etc which is worth the most half of the time you get useless stuff that no one uses