h2h savage

[Qbic]

Hi guys,

yesterday I rolled my first savage and I would like to get some advice on how to spec. Of course everyone has his own opinion but I would appreciate any help I could get. Which are the best buffs to use, which styles, the whole programme. Somehow there are a few forums about savages but all they talk about is their templates while I would like some info on how to use the class.
There don't seem to be a lot of savages around anymore so that's another reason why I wanna try to get one to 50.
As said, every piece of advice is highly appreciated!
Cheers,

Martin.

 

[Phoebee-v-]

44 h2h 49 savagery rest parry.

Dmg and haste in normal fights, Evade if you get agro, in epic battles you might even wanna use parry.

Snake charmer in main hand and salamaanders tail from 6.2 encouner in off-hand. Then rest is up to how much time you wanna waste in getting fotm leet artis you use once-twice every month.

 

[kivik]

taunting call is the style you prolly will use most, other good styles in rvr is clan's call behind style with stun, v good to use on fleeing enemies. then you have 2 choices to do, either use the follow up style for clan's call, clan's might, wich can hit 2 target, but i usually attack with kelgor's fist from side and then kelgor's wrath for another stun, good damage and low end cost

 

[lallaren]

salamander tail in main hand and snake charmer in offhand if u can't get a temp with 2 x sally claws.

 

[Zeratuhl]

44 h2h 49 savagery rest parry.

Dmg and haste in normal fights, Evade if you get agro, in epic battles you might even wanna use parry.

Snake charmer in main hand and salamaanders tail from 6.2 encouner in off-hand. Then rest is up to how much time you wanna waste in getting fotm leet artis you use once-twice every month.

why put a faster weapon in main and a slower in offhand? wheres the logic?

 

[poky]

why put a faster weapon in main and a slower in offhand? wheres the logic?

its called the "speak when you dont know what you talk about" logic

used alot these days tbh

 

[peder]

Hi guys,

yesterday I rolled my first savage and I would like to get some advice on how to spec. Of course everyone has his own opinion but I would appreciate any help I could get. Which are the best buffs to use, which styles, the whole programme. Somehow there are a few forums about savages but all they talk about is their templates while I would like some info on how to use the class.
There don't seem to be a lot of savages around anymore so that's another reason why I wanna try to get one to 50.
As said, every piece of advice is highly appreciated!
Cheers,

Martin.

wlecome t bordors!!!

but before you make the fools of friends
stop play savage
best chars is berserkerkes

realm abilis say savavges is bad
berserkies is good.
think about it
much!

 

[Sanzor]

wlecome t bordors!!!

but before you make the fools of friends
stop play savage
best chars is berserkerkes

realm abilis say savavges is bad
berserkies is good.
think about it
much!

 

[Himse]

wlecome t bordors!!!

but before you make the fools of friends
stop play savage
best chars is berserkerkes

realm abilis say savavges is bad
berserkies is good.
think about it
much!

are you english ? or just type like a retard ?

Savage ftw 44h2h 49 savagery and make it kobbie or troll

 

[Kalba]

Troll zerker is actually better RvR wise than savage. For once ZERKANDESTROY peder is right.

 

[Helme]

Banelord >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Battlemaster (Zerk > Svg)
but anyways 44h2h 49savagery rest parry shoud work fine

 

[Lumikki]

wlecome t bordors!!!

but before you make the fools of friends
stop play savage
best chars is berserkerkes

realm abilis say savavges is bad
berserkies is good.
think about it
much!

I'm getting an eye infection from reading your posts.

 

[ogmond]

well i roll a svage from some time now and i rely enjoy it. and u wann know why? because they can really kick as if u know how to play with them. it will be hard lvl the savage if u don't have a sm or healer to boost u up at mg. but the other part that can help u out and can teach u how to play the savage is to get a bb up on u r back and start playing. u will find out that although is v v v boring lvl-ing like this but it will teach u how to play with sava. all i can say is WELCOME ABROAD and enjoy the sava and btw do it tw00ll small size not like me .. norse..... tw00l for the win. and get him some decent gear if u chose to lvl with bb .

 

[poky]

if a group is using 2 lighttanks, 1 sav 1 zerk is in most cases better than 2 zerk.

 

[Kalba]

if a group is using 2 lighttanks, 1 sav 1 zerk is in most cases better than 2 zerk.

Raid + Zzang is better than most zerk + sav

 

[Osri]

Got em both...

If alone offensive duty...Zerker > Savvy ... charge, banelord

Got some nice zerker,savvy / zerker,zerker offensive duo experiences though

 

[Svartmetall]

44/49 does do a little bit more damage, but is only really playable if you're going to be constantly healed (Savages suck in PvE and solo since the nerfs). Use the taunt style as your anytime, but really try to be using the side chain as much as possible, it rocks. When you can land the bugger.

Salamander Tail is great mainhand, use either Snakecharmer's or Laodaemia's Fist (ML3 drop) in offhand. Or even a pair of Sallies if you can get them. Be prepared for a lot of frustration due to your miss rate, though.

 

[Rezy]

44 h2h 49 savagery rest parry.

Dmg and haste in normal fights, Evade if you get agro, in epic battles you might even wanna use parry.

Snake charmer in main hand and salamaanders tail from 6.2 encouner in off-hand. Then rest is up to how much time you wanna waste in getting fotm leet artis you use once-twice every month.

ehh... the high spd one in offhand m8y.. just to get u straight..
snake charmer 4.0... sally tail 4.4.. so mainhand sally tail and snake charmer offhand :>

 

[Rezy]

Raid + Zzang is better than most zerk + sav

seems like Kalba like to lick arse eh? :>

 

[Namefake]

2 handed savages are good aswell, hit fast and hard.

 

[poky]

Raid + Zzang is better than most zerk + sav

that has to be the worst argument for 2 zerkers I have ever heard :wub:

 

[Rolv]

The point of behing a savage is to do damage, go 50h2h, 42 savagery rest parry.

In style damage alone a 44 h2h savage do 8,75% less style damage than one with 50 in h2h. You also get more weaponskill when ur 50 in weapon that result in more damage...

Savage has evade IIII that gives 20% chance to evade. Dex gives 1% evade each 10 dex (1% each 20dex after 250). Say you have 250 dex, then you have 45% chance to evade (350dex gives 50%).
With 37 in savagery ur evade buff gives +31% evade, this means that even if you have 0 dex u'll cap evade...

Right hand and dual wield weaponspeed is capped at 1,5... You can reach this cap with 32% haste (35 savagery)... and damage > weaponspeed

combat damage buff: 39 in savagery gives +21% more damage buff, if you do 200 damage without buffs you will do +/- 240 damage with buff (atleast thats my experience )

25% damage buff wont give much more damage

 

[Qbic]

Thanks for all the info guys. At least I have a bit of a better idea how to spec. So far I am having a blast with my savage; being a gimp class or not in rvr.

 

[Softouch]

are you english ? or just type like a retard ?

Savage ftw 44h2h 49 savagery and make it kobbie or troll

lol

 

[poky]

The point of behing a savage is to do damage, go 50h2h, 42 savagery rest parry.

In style damage alone a 44 h2h savage do 8,75% less style damage than one with 50 in h2h. You also get more weaponskill when ur 50 in weapon that result in more damage...

Savage has evade IIII that gives 20% chance to evade. Dex gives 1% evade each 10 dex (1% each 20dex after 250). Say you have 250 dex, then you have 45% chance to evade (350dex gives 50%).
With 37 in savagery ur evade buff gives +31% evade, this means that even if you have 0 dex u'll cap evade...

Right hand and dual wield weaponspeed is capped at 1,5... You can reach this cap with 32% haste (35 savagery)... and damage > weaponspeed

combat damage buff: 39 in savagery gives +21% more damage buff, if you do 200 damage without buffs you will do +/- 240 damage with buff (atleast thats my experience )

25% damage buff wont give much more damage

Thats the biggest pile of bullshit I have seen in quite some time on mid forums tbh

 

[Zeratuhl]

Thats the biggest pile of bullshit I have seen in quite some time on mid forums tbh

Enlighten us poky!

 

[poky]

Enlighten us poky!

allright

The point of behing a savage is to do damage, go 50h2h, 42 savagery rest parry.

You better not, since it doesnt do more damage.

In style damage alone a 44 h2h savage do 8,75% less style damage than one with 50 in h2h. You also get more weaponskill when ur 50 in weapon that result in more damage...

Provided that the modified h2h skill is 51 or higher, the basedamage will be the same (without selfbuffs) between the two specs. Styledamage will be slightly higher on 50h2hspec, however it does not make up for the added basedamage(and thus also styledamage) that the dpsshout provides.

Savage has evade IIII that gives 20% chance to evade. Dex gives 1% evade each 10 dex (1% each 20dex after 250). Say you have 250 dex, then you have 45% chance to evade (350dex gives 50%).
With 37 in savagery ur evade buff gives +31% evade, this means that even if you have 0 dex u'll cap evade...

While this might be true for a person whose whole pvp experience comes from duels versus skalds and shieldtanks, its not very accurate in rvr in general. Multiple enemies and dual vield lowers evade dramaticly and thus you wont be capping at 50%.

Right hand and dual wield weaponspeed is capped at 1,5... You can reach this cap with 32% haste (35 savagery)... and damage > weaponspeed

You really have no idea what you talk about do you? Swingspeed doesnt affect basedamage, thus capped swingspeed on slower weapon gives higher dmgoutput. You wont be capping swingspeed on any of the common h2h weapon setups with 32% hasteshout without celerity.

combat damage buff: 39 in savagery gives +21% more damage buff, if you do 200 damage without buffs you will do +/- 240 damage with buff (atleast thats my experience )

25% damage buff wont give much more damage

I guess that depends on how you define much. 44/49 WILL do more damage than 50/39. The diffrence even quite big, compared to many other changes done in specs/templates.

And also, the delve values on DPS shouts are wrong. They are infact slightly better than shown, and the diffrence between them is also slightly higher.


Hope that helps zera

*edit* Ohh I almost forgot. Any numbers posted by Rolv are complete BS *edit*

 

[Zeratuhl]

ty! /lub

 

[Kalba]

seems like Kalba like to lick arse eh? :>

naah, it's moik's Job.

But you seem to like it, post a message to our boards or contact moik on irc and he will prolly give up the position