guild forming trouble?

[Taardad]

Anyone know the status on guild forming because it hasn't been possible on excaliber for some time now. Tried it on monday and right now again but no luck. And we're doing everything right. Monday someone said GOA was aware and that they are gonna fix it asap. Does this mean next server restard or even longer?
It's on excalibur btw, don't know about prydwen or camnlan

 

[IainC]

Anyone know the status on guild forming because it hasn't been possible on excaliber for some time now. Tried it on monday and right now again but no luck. And we're doing everything right. Monday someone said GOA was aware and that they are gonna fix it asap. Does this mean next server restard or even longer?
It's on excalibur btw, don't know about prydwen or camnlan

Yes we know about it.
It's because there's a limit to the number of guilds that can be created on a server and that limit has been reached. The only fix is to delete guilds that hare completely inactive or have no members and this is something we do every few weeks on all servers.
it's not as simple as it sounds though and takes a little while to check, double check and triple check the guilds are properly inactive and we aren't deleting well established and highly active guilds by mistake.

 

[Archeon]

Tbh you should delete all the 'OneMan' guilds, people who make guilds just to have their own custom tag get on my nerves.

 

[Elcain]

Oneman guild's r0x tho.. they pay there money to play there game so they should have the rights to have there own guild imo

 

[Balbor]

Oneman guild's r0x tho.. they pay there money to play there game so they should have the rights to have there own guild imo

so does someone that wants to form a new guild

 

[Tua]

so does someone that wants to form a new guild

yea, he just said that.. why do you repeat?

 

[Prudil]

Takes 8 ppl to create a guild, should also be the minimum requirement imo.

 

[Sarnat]

So when one of your 8 man guilds gets angry and types /gc quit it should disband the guild?

TBH one man guilds should be asked to be disbanded or something, in a polite manner instead of deleting them etc. There is also the issue of guild houses as you can not change them back to a personal house if your guild is deleted.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Or people could do something more sensible and join an existing guild...or dont you get on with other people?

 

[JackHeart]

That was one of the most stupid replys in a long time..
Like saying: There is so many guilds out there, so why dont join any of them instead of making a new one..

Delete inactive guilds, but in my opinion all guilds should have the same right to exist if they are active, even if they are so called one mans guild or have 300+ active members..
And why someone would like to be alone in their guild I have no idea about, I would certainly not want that, but that is their issue and if they want that. Let them.

Hopefully Mythic/GOA can solve the problem anyway.. And while they are at it, extend the variation in guild emblems and increase max size of the alliances... (That was my five cents)

 

[Aremeriel]

Yes we know about it.
It's because there's a limit to the number of guilds that can be created on a server and that limit has been reached. The only fix is to delete guilds that hare completely inactive or have no members and this is something we do every few weeks on all servers.
it's not as simple as it sounds though and takes a little while to check, double check and triple check the guilds are properly inactive and we aren't deleting well established and highly active guilds by mistake.

How long time before a guild is deemed inactive?
If the people in my guild has to be offline for a while due to IRL issues, how long before the guild is deleted?

Takes 8 ppl to create a guild, should also be the minimum requirement imo.

Or people could do something more sensible and join an existing guild...or dont you get on with other people?

Noooooooooo.... We're atm 8 ppl in guild, and some are pretty inactive due to RL stuff. We've been more, but we've also been fewer. We like our guild as it is, it's small and intimate, just as we want it. And don't come and say that we don't join another guild cause we don't get along with other people. We get along great with other people... If we didn't get along with other people, we wouldn't group as much with other people as we do, neither would we be in an alliance.
As has been said here (and in so many other threads), I pay the same amount of money for one account as you do, so I should be able to play the game as I want to, as long as I don't cheat, abuse (bugs or other ppl) or break the CoC or EULA.
And getting more ppl into guild ain't that easy these days, as most ppl are already in guilds...

TBH one man guilds should be asked to be disbanded or something, in a polite manner instead of deleting them etc. There is also the issue of guild houses as you can not change them back to a personal house if your guild is deleted.

The issue of guild houses could probably be solved by GOA to make the house personal by making a new house in the same place with all the same items. At least it should be solved without economical consequenses for the character.

 

[Archeon]

And why someone would like to be alone in their guild I have no idea about, I would certainly not want that, but that is their issue and if they want that. Let them.

Isn't that the issue though? Guilds with 1 member only have one concievable purpose. That is to give the sole member a fancy <TAG> under his name. Ordinarily I couldn't care less if people want to do that, however these usless guilds are screwing things up for people who do want to start active guilds.

Are you saying that for the sake of 1 persons arrogence many people should be denied the ability to make a guild?


I am sympathetic about guild housing, but like Aremeriel said. It could be (I don't know if it actually could, i'm no GM) possible for a GM to delete the house and replace it with a solo one.

 

[Shanaia]

playing advocate of the devil for a mo:

I can think of more purposes to have a 1 man guild then just the <Tag> ...

1. Without a guild you don't get listed on Duskwave
2. With a guild you can have 2 houses on one account
3. With the new keepclaiming rules you can claim a keep even with a 1 man guild .. if the one person is an active RvRer he can claim a keep for a couple of days every couple of weeks in stead of letting the bountypoints go to waste.
4. If a guild has a lot of history but just "dies" cause of people leaving the game etc it has a chance of getting deleted.. if you keep it alive with 1 active member it might bloom up again (I think Lord of England were almost dead for a while they seem to be doing ok again)

So if you're not very sociable and would otherwise be guildless it actually makes a lot of sense to have a one man guild.

As I said playing advocate of the devil cause I don't like one man guilds much.

 

[Archeon]

1. Without a guild you don't get listed on Duskwave
2. With a guild you can have 2 houses on one account
3. With the new keepclaiming rules you can claim a keep even with a 1 man guild .. if the one person is an active RvRer he can claim a keep for a couple of days every couple of weeks in stead of letting the bountypoints go to waste.
4. If a guild has a lot of history but just "dies" cause of people leaving the game etc it has a chance of getting deleted.. if you keep it alive with 1 active member it might bloom up again (I think Lord of England were almost dead for a while they seem to be doing ok again)

1. I guess I can understand, thats more a failing on the part of Mythic/GOA - whichever it was that decided not to show the unguilded.
2. Again, I guess I can understand this. Kind of a pain, especially when I think about all the time I spent hunting the housing zone for a nice plot of land.
3. This, well the idea of having 1 person responsible for defending, as well as informing other's of an attack (I don't think there are any alliances who would accept a 1man guild) makes me wonder why any 1manners would want to do this in the first place.
4. Those guilds were originally made with the intention of functioning as a proper guild, i'm refering to people who make guilds specifically for the purpose of being the only ones in it (and if you hang around Aegir/Jord long enough you'll inevitably see a few) - its one thing keeping a guild alive during a period of inactivity, its a totally different thing to just having a guild for a special <Tag>

Just my thoughts atleast, its not like anything will actually change because of this. I guess I can't really fault GOA on their fairness atleast, much as i'd like too.

 

[Shrye]

Or people could do something more sensible and join an existing guild...or dont you get on with other people?

Same can be said about those wanting to create new guilds.

Isn't that the issue though? Guilds with 1 member only have one concievable purpose. That is to give the sole member a fancy <TAG> under his name.

So what, if it that's the case? Rather, go take a look at the fotm rvr guilds springing up and dying down each month, with a buffbot or two that tends not to /gc quit - then you can talk about uselessness.

Ordinarily I couldn't care less if people want to do that, however these usless guilds are screwing things up for people who do want to start active guilds.

Tough luck, doubt there's anyone out there who's creating guilds just so that no one else can do it - ie, they don't do it to screw over other people, so maybe you should mind your own business or start paying the subscription fees of others?

Are you saying that for the sake of 1 persons arrogence many people should be denied the ability to make a guild?

Seems to me that you're actually the arrogant one, dictating how others should act. If anything, stop your crusade against 1man guilds, could at least appeal to people in a polite manner instead of this bollocks that you keep spamming in every thread about guild limits having being reached.

 

[Fana]

Can only say that i *wish* people would join already existing guilds in midgard since we have way to many small/new guilds who are unable to offer their members raids/rvr and have to rely on out-of-guild help. The realm would be be stronger with fewer (but larger) guilds and alliances.
I was gm of the guild Perfect Circle for a year. We were always a small guild, think we had at most 12 active members, and we liked it that way for a while since we all got along well etc. But we discovered that we could not offer our members much in the way of guild rvr or guild raids, so eventually we took the decision to merge with Aesirs Blade, an old midgard guild that needed new blood. The merge suited both guilds and im very happy we did it today.
Perfect Circle remains as a bg1/bb guild today, so it is still active sort of, and we still maintain a guildhouse for it. The guildhouse (in a good spot) and sentimental feelings are prolly what keeps us from taking all characters out of PC and making it inactive. Guess we might consider it if there was a way to reverse the house to personal again.

 

[IainC]

How long time before a guild is deemed inactive?
If the people in my guild has to be offline for a while due to IRL issues, how long before the guild is deleted?

It's about 6 months or so and it's only if no-one in the guild has been active at all in that time.

 

[Archeon]

dictating how others should act.

Kinda like how your 'dictating' to me how I should be polite to people I don't really like?

 

[Aremeriel]

It's about 6 months or so and it's only if no-one in the guild has been active at all in that time.

Ta for the reply.. Don't think I have to worry much then..

 

[Afuldan]

You should be polite to everybody, at least that's how I was brought up. Even if they are a bit selfish in that they will take up a guild space for their own private tag, it's their call, and you were just too slow in making YOUR guild . I have my own solo guild, full of my alts, but that's not the way it always was...it used to be a little guild of friends that always did stuff together...then everybody just sorta left and im on my own now :/. But I keep the guild because I love the alliance, I love my tag, and i love the money my house rakes in .

So please, PLEASE don't preach about deleting solo guilds, because your friend afuldan will be homeless! QQ