Guild Creation Part 2

[Elcain]

was just wondering if any of you guys know
if you can have the same name as a deleted guild from the past?
i cant see why not but knowing mythic/goa proberly made some ghey thing so you cant..

 

[Graknak]

Theoretically this is possible, providing not a single char/forgotten alt, or inactive account with chars is in the so called dead guild. Seeing the inactivity timer is @ 6 months this could be the biggest problem.

 

[Helium]

nah,goa is too stupid to do sumthing like this ( thats good),put yea i think u can have the same name'd guild

 

[Nxs]

I very much doubt you could re-use an old guild name, what if the old guild still has members on inactive accounts, what about the old guilds website that may still be running. Its far easier to allocate each guild thats created a new slot - rather than trying to purge the files of inactive ones.

Maybe

 

[Graknak]

I can remember in the early days that before you could change yer guild emblem once, that there where a few guilds who wanted a slightly different emblem, so they disbanded the guild and rebuild it, seemed to work perfectly then, don't see why it wouldn't work present time.

 

[Elcain]

its my old guild name from the other day xD
i called, it summin messed up emblem etc twice went to rename it the same name but it wouldnt let me =/
so i justed added a letter on the end.. tryed again today wouldnt let be but i think its cause the name is so close and all the letters are same except last one..
im hoping when its removed from www.Daoc-stats.com it means the server have removed it from teh database allowing me to reuse it..

 

[Graknak]

Afaik there is a re-use timer on re-creating guilds, otherwise Mail GOA about it, they can fix it, providing yer not gonna threaten them orso

 

[IainC]

Guilds don't get deleted automatically. Even if there are no members in a guild it will remain in the database.
On servers where the guild creation limit has been reached, we check for inactive or empty guilds from time to time and delete them manually however this is not a simple task and takes some time to do properly.
You won't be able to create a new guild with the same name as your old one until we delete the old one. Just because it isn't in the xml, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

 

[Elcain]

Guilds don't get deleted automatically. Even if there are no members in a guild it will remain in the database.
On servers where the guild creation limit has been reached, we check for inactive or empty guilds from time to time and delete them manually however this is not a simple task and takes some time to do properly.
You won't be able to create a new guild with the same name as your old one until we delete the old one. Just because it isn't in the xml, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

ah ha.
how long does that usaly take?

 

[Daedalus]

What kind of database back-end do you guys use anyway?

 

[IainC]

ah ha.
how long does that usaly take?

We are working on one set of guild deletions at the moment on Excalibur, however we're also about to start testing 1.69 so it may take a little longer than previously.
It takes as long as it takes, we didn't even have the facility to do it at all until about a month ago and we've only done it once so far so it's kind of hard to say how long is normal.

Daedalus - I have no idea, there are several databases used in the game. Mythic would be the best people to ask about that.

 

[Graknak]

Guilds don't get deleted automatically. Even if there are no members in a guild it will remain in the database.
On servers where the guild creation limit has been reached, we check for inactive or empty guilds from time to time and delete them manually however this is not a simple task and takes some time to do properly.
You won't be able to create a new guild with the same name as your old one until we delete the old one. Just because it isn't in the xml, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

You have completed The Mystery of Guild-Creation quest!

Tanks for the fast reply Requiel, that lifted the fog surrounding us

 

[Elcain]

We are working on one set of guild deletions at the moment on Excalibur, however we're also about to start testing 1.69 so it may take a little longer than previously.
It takes as long as it takes, we didn't even have the facility to do it at all until about a month ago and we've only done it once so far so it's kind of hard to say how long is normal.

Daedalus - I have no idea, there are several databases used in the game. Mythic would be the best people to ask about that.

oki tnx m8y

 

[Elcain]

1 last thing

i seen a guild on a french or german server called
No $kill on WWW.Daoc-stats.com can you have $ in guild names or that a mistake?

if you can have $ for S that will solve all my problems

 

[Moriath]

the database software daoc runs on is mysql i think .. as Oracle quoted a price to expensive for them so they went with the freeware stuff like the operating system linux

 

[Lejemorder]

the database software daoc runs on is mysql i think .. as Oracle quoted a price to expensive for them so they went with the freeware stuff like the operating system linux

are u saying linux is a bad OS?? if u want a stabile servers linux>MS.
and i really doubt they use linux as server side unless they got am away around directX.

 

[Vehlin]

are u saying linux is a bad OS?? if u want a stabile servers linux>MS.
and i really doubt they use linux as server side unless they got am away around directX.

The backend doesnt need to use directX because it isn't dealing with any of the graphical aspects of the game. The frontend of the server side setup will more than likely be MS based servers running the game world, but the backend (all the database stuff) could be run on punch cards if the developers were so inclined. However one of the Nix flavours would be very well suited for use as a pure database cruncher.