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xverd

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I was thinking about this grp setup:

Bard Soujuner
Druid Perfecter
Druid Perfecter
Warden BG wardy ^^
Champion Banelord
Champion Banelord
Chanter Convoker
Eldritch Convoker


Anyone tryed this setup before??
 

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Champions is very weak against a tank train tbh, u should add a bm instead of one of the champ's imo (not because im a bm meself :D)
 

Mirt

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Maybe one of the druids should be convoker, ml9 pet ftw.
 

sphir

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Bard Soj
Druid convoker
Druid Perfecter
Warden battlemaster
Champion battlemaster
Blademaster Banelord
Chanter Convoker
Eldritch Convoker
 

lokkedue

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PonZaC said:
Champions ARE very weak against a tank train tbh, u should add a bm instead of one of the champ's imo (not because im a bm meself :D)
what makes a bm stronger against a tank train? keep the 2 champs, BoV and DET5(in 1.76) would be better imo
 

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lokkedue said:
what makes a bm stronger against a tank train? keep the 2 champs, BoV and DET5(in 1.76) would be better imo

Oke mister IKnowEveryThingIThink.. U play mid so fuck off... k thx
 

hdjama

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sojo bard
perf druid nurt
conv druid nat
Bane champ 42 / shield = must
Bane BM
Convo Eld
BG Wardun
Convo Enchanter

alternative : switch champ for a BM or a hero. depends on whats out. 2 grapplers vs zerk,zerk, sm, bd....
 

lokkedue

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PonZaC said:
Oke mister IKnowEveryThingIThink.. U play mid so fuck off... k thx
eeehm.... i do play hib aswell, but what does that have to do with anything? im saying my oppinion and asking u why u think BM's are stronger.. u could atleast grow up and give an answer or is that too hard for u?
if so, go jerk off, grow up and then come back to the forums
 

Ballard

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BM's are far stronger versus a mid tank assist train without a doubt. Check their realm abilities.
 

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Ballard said:
BM's are far stronger versus a mid tank assist train without a doubt. Check their realm abilities.
im just saying that i think champs would be better, but thats just my oppinion.
what RAs make them better? and have in mind im thinking about the DET update in 1.76 which kinda makes charge useless
 

Ballard

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The realm rank 5 one. Stops most teddy assist trains dead. Blademasters also out damage champions considerably especially at low realm ranks.

EDIT: I wouldnt neccesarily have one druid as convoker either. Having two people avaliable to cure near sight and disease is mucho handy. Not knocking convoker line at all but I think both lines are equally viable atm.

There are many viable set ups at the moment, It just comes down to the playstyle of the group.
 

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Ballard said:
The realm rank 5 one. Stops most teddy assist trains dead. Blademasters also out damage champions considerably especially at low realm ranks.
but then again since theres casters in the grp its not like the bm will be the first target.
The purpose of both classes is also doing damage which kinda makes that RA useless IMO, where if a champ specced 42shield he could slam or debuff to counteract the assist train
 

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ehmmm won't go for bm wtf :eek2: U must have been soloing a lot since, offent other tank grps go for the tank ma :wanker:
 

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haven't read most of the comments but 2 champs isn't as good as 1 champ 1 bm as u don't have any charge tanks i that setup atm
 

lokkedue

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PonZaC said:
ehmmm won't go for bm wtf :eek2: U must have been soloing a lot since, offent other tank grps go for the tank ma :wanker:
i run 8v8 everyday, and still that has N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with my question..
i asked u why bm's were better against tank trains, still waiting for ur answer
im saying that in 1.76 a champ would perform just as good as, if not even better that a bm, ur saying bm's are better against tank trains and then i ask u why(just repeating for u, since it doesnt seem that u understand ANYTHING)
 

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This seems like a pretty strong setup to me :)
Bard
Druid
Druid
Warden
BM
BM
Champion
Light Eld
 

PonZaC

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lokkedue said:
i run 8v8 everyday, and still that has N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with my question..
i asked u why bm's were better against tank trains, still waiting for ur answer
im saying that in 1.76 a champ would perform just as good as, if not even better that a bm, ur saying bm's are better against tank trains and then i ask u why(just repeating for u, since it doesnt seem that u understand ANYTHING)

Oke MisterIKnowEverythingIThink bm's got rr5 ra, and got high parry rate+ evade and charge..
 

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PonZaC said:
Oke MisterIKnowEverythingIThink bm's got rr5 ra, and got high parry rate+ evade and charge..
wow, was it really that hard giving me an answer?
then again, charge is useless in 1.76, most champs(that i know off) has 42 shield and debuffs which also would help against a tank train, and the druids should be able to keep a chain class alive against a tank train. The damage from BoF is just nice, 9sec backstyle rox, so cant really see why choosing a bm over a champ...
 

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PonZaC said:
Oke MisterIKnowEverythingIThink bm's got rr5 ra, and got high parry rate+ evade and charge..

Dont forget tri wield against vendo zerkers :x
 

PonZaC

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lokkedue said:
wow, was it really that hard giving me an answer?
then again, charge is useless in 1.76, most champs(that i know off) has 42 shield and debuffs which also would help against a tank train, and the druids should be able to keep a chain class alive against a tank train. The damage from BoF is just nice, 9sec backstyle rox, so cant really see why choosing a bm over a champ...

2x bm's would take down targets a lot faster than Champ's.... Champs = slow swing speed.. and bm's = fast swingspeed..
 

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I would say:

Bard
Druid
Druid
Warden
Caster
Bm
Bm
Bm/champ/hero
 

lokkedue

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PonZaC said:
2x bm's would take down targets a lot faster than Champ's.... Champs = slow swing speed.. and bm's = fast swingspeed..
it really depends, champs are slower swing speed but higher damage, bm's are faster swingspeed but lower damage. But on top of that champ got BoV, slam and debuffs which i think makes them more grp friendly.. and they can be luwi :m00:
 

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Bm got better damage over champ, but champ got so much stuff to play with, id go champ+bm for 2 offensive tanks if i had to pick..
 

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