gov/nailah but tartaros (4% damage) or traldors (5% resist pierce that stacks)?

[eSo]

ok let's keep it simple and forget the other stats of items and cs/zahur charges etc.

at/ec + sash + gov/nailah + tartaros = 10% resist pierce, 9% magic damage

at/ec + sash + gov/nailah + traldors = 15% resist pierce (yes, traldor stacks), 4% magic damage.

you get more damage in result with resist piercing than with damage in PvP. so piercing > damage.

discuss.

 

[Erulin]

Personaly I prefer Tartaros just for the mcl2 charge

Erulin the Bloody

 

[Muylaetrix]

resist pierce is supposed to cap at 10%, if it doesn`t it`s a bug.

 

[eSo]

ok let's keep it simple and forget the other stats of items and cs/zahur charges etc.

Personaly I prefer Tartaros just for the mcl2 charge

Erulin the Bloody

and i was trying to be as clear as possible...

resist pierce is supposed to cap at 10%, if it doesn`t it`s a bug.

it has stacked since day one afaik, dunno why though /shrug
but try it yourself. my /bonuses show 15% piercing with ec/sash/traldors.

 

[Dorin]

pierce is caped at 10% i think.

do a test and see for yourself. (by nuking your bot or something )

 

[Boni]

ok let's keep it simple and forget the other stats of items and cs/zahur charges etc.

at/ec + sash + gov/nailah + tartaros = 10% resist pierce, 9% magic damage

at/ec + sash + gov/nailah + traldors = 15% resist pierce (yes, traldor stacks), 4% magic damage.

you get more damage in result with resist piercing than with damage in PvP. so piercing > damage.

discuss.

Your gonna lose out vs low (14%) or less resits using traldors as you have lost the damage you could have gained though pierce.

Magic damage and MoM stack up and allow you to exceed damage caps in a way that pierce doesnt.

Both templates equate to roughly the same damage on capped resistance targets anyway. With traldors you get 5% more pierce (5% off their resists), with tart you get 5% more damage. I think that works to the benefit of the traldors template, but its in the order off less than a percent damage?

piercing > high rr enemies, damage > low rr enemies,

overall... I dunno if the extra percent or two damage vs high resist opponents is worth it vs a larger loss vs lower resists.

 

[Gelid]

Traldors resist pierce only stacks to take pierce to 15% when you have the aura up, not from it's passive ability, and since it is on a 30 minute timer, I wouldn't want to rely on it.

 

[Febard]

0
Intelligence (or Piety) +15
Focus All Spell Lines 50 levels
Casting speed 5%

2
Dexterity +15

4
Heat 6%
Cold 6%

6
Arcane Siphon (5% chance)

8
Reduces enemy target's resistances versus all magic damage by 5%. Only resists gained from items are reduced.

10
Arch Magery

Arch Magery: Grants target additional spell damage and ability to penetrate target's resistances.
Damage bonus: 5%
Resist piercing bonus: 5%
Target: Group
Range: 1500
Duration: 5 min
Casting time: instant
Timer: 30 min
This spell is cast when the item is used.

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hmm i read it like this:

lvl8 +5% passive resists piercing

lvl10 +5% resists piercing and +5% dam on timer..

soo when you use charge its like +10% resists piercing and 5%dam from Traldor's. much better then tartaros
and when charge is down its like what Boni says..

dunno if it goes above the 10% cap, if so it must ba a bug

am i wrong??

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

the traldor buff with %dmg did go above the 10% cap in OF, so he could prolly do it now aswell

 

[Kaun_IA]

the traldor buff with %dmg did go above the 10% cap in OF, so he could prolly do it now aswell

dunt know really, havent tested traldor in rvr.

 

[Yurka]

in OF, you hotswap between traldor+tartaros, so you could get 20% PR with 14% dmg + MoM to equal sick dmg add in the relics and its perma cap dmg all the way. Or keep traldors perma equiped and have perma 20% PR (with CS/zahur up) and 25% PR with 9% dmg+mom.

PR and dmg% is capped at 10% now

 

[eSo]

just tested this: my bonuses show 15% piercing. and no, i haven't /used the traldors (or anything else). so it's perma 15% piercing. but when i did /use it didn't add it to 20% either.

 

[Febard]

okay, but did the +5% dam from /use add ??

 

[Afran]

when i did /use it didn't add it to 20% either.

okay, but did the +5% dam from /use add ??

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

He was talking about resist piercing, Febard was asking about the 5% dmg there is in the /use2 on Traldor..... learn to read all the posts before spamming

 

[Eva]

the traldor buff with %dmg did go above the 10% cap in OF, so he could prolly do it now aswell

I know it went to 14% on my sorc and my friends fire wiz in our duos atleast. Don't know if they changed that at the same time as resist pierce tho. But it did stack in of.