goodish story

[sarafan]

pardon my spelling if you please and all gramical errors

well i was with a spirit master and a shaman,as one should do we were looking for alb ass to kick.but they found our arses insted. a minstrel a infil and a thurg the infil insta mezzed us all and started to pick on the shaman but the spirtit mast evaded that mezz and DD one of the characters,thus giving us some time and the minstrel and infil started to dance infront of me,but what they didnt know was i was just playing along with the "mezz" and when one of them got close i pounced on him and gave him a fare swoop of 100 dmg pluss a 45 insta dd then i started smacking the living crap out of him whilst his little infil friend was trying to backstab me and all these other feeble attempts i finished the minstrel after somthing like 5 backstabs 10 insta dds,i actually killed one and smacked the other silly but then some alb renforcement came and then they were zerged by a huge force of mids.everyone saluted me..

boy was i chuffed

 

[geniusdaoc]

infils cant mez, let alone insta mez

 

[Aravis]

....and you can only backstab from stealth so I doubt that was the style he was using :/

 

[old.Iunliten]

I am able to see that you just made all the story up...

But I fail to see the point(If it is any) you are trying to make.

If it is to see how many people that actually are pointing out wrong stuff in your post then good try you got 2.

 

[sarafan]

Originally posted by old.Iunliten
I am able to see that you just made all the story up...

think what you wish

 

[old.Psi]

100 damage is nothing special, my arms hit someone for 259 (without crit).

 

[old.chesnor]

My cap was 389 without crit on PA in Thidranki. Then again, sarafan is an uber-gimp Thane (and no mate, we don't ph33r j0r 24 in Stormcalling, in fact I wouldn't ph33r j00 if you came to Thid with 50 Stormcalling )

 

[swords]

hmm never seen you in Thidranki when im there. and im usually there alot these days...

 

[old.chesnor]

<--- Theag BrownTrousers

Now capped sadly

Still looking for an infil spec to reliably kill Shadowzerkers.....

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

there isnt 1.

the infil just doesnt bloom to maturity at level 24 like the shadowzerker does ches.

 

[SilverHood]

come on chesnor... I want to se an infil kill me reliable everytime I meet him

so far, no one comes close

and I'm only lvl 23 can't be arsed to level... will cap in a day or 2 anyway

only thing I can think off that would kill me reliable is very high envenom, 20 atleast, and then a backstab II opener

something like:

18 stealth
23 slashing
20 envenom
10 CS
5 DW

 

[bleurgh]

well i have 23 cs, 19 env and 14 thrust + bonuses from items. that should do it?
will try to find you when i have better stealth tho cos all you sb dont really do much env and go stealth and weaps and delete at 24 ( from what i have seen).
i gotta go for the distance cos i like my char

 

[swords]

i just respecced swords. im trying full critblade out before i redo him in 20 rps time.
i never actually got a PA off on anyone but my Garrottes have become realy nasty.
i think i will go full critblade next time too and ignore poison.

 

[Fafnir]

Well Minstrel got both insta stun and ae mezz. Dont know how old/knew sarafan is to the game but i remember my first run in with a infil/minstrel. Well both came out of stealth insta stunned me and i wtf. But then learned that minstrels got stun. And there are some styles that snare. So belive Sarafan, but she just mixed up the Minstrel and Infil.

 

[old.chesnor]

Originally posted by SilverHood
come on chesnor... I want to se an infil kill me reliable everytime I meet him

so far, no one comes close

and I'm only lvl 23 can't be arsed to level... will cap in a day or 2 anyway

only thing I can think off that would kill me reliable is very high envenom, 20 atleast, and then a backstab II opener

something like:

18 stealth
23 slashing
20 envenom
10 CS
5 DW

My infil before respec was 17+5 stealth, 15+2 DW, 17 env, 1 CS, 24 Slash. If I got the jump on shadowzerkers, I could kill them, but if they attacked me I was dead meat.

After respec was 22+5 Stealth, 21 CS, 15 env, 15 slash. I easily killied SZ if I got the jump, and it was 50/50 if they attacked first.

What I want is a spec to kill SZ all the time. High envenom might do it, but I am not so sure. Problem is Middy slash gets a bonus on leather, whereas Alb slash gets a penalty on Middy leather.

Also, one thing that makes SZ so great at Thidranki is LA. You just cannot compare the power of LA @ lvl24 to similar spec DW. DW just scales really badly, at lvl24 it gives me such a small chance to hit with both weapons its a joke, and the styles are not great either. LA on the other hand hits really hard, and scales beautifully all the way to 50. DW is good at high specs, but really sucks at the lower specs.

Not whining about DW btw, just pointing out that although Infils get 2.5, speccing in DW to try to counter SZ just don't work.

 

[gwari]

Chesnor, im afraid you are totally misinformed:


<What I want is a spec to kill SZ all the time. High envenom might do it, but I am not so sure.> (yes it will)

<Problem is Middy slash gets a bonus on leather,>
not true: albion leather is neutral on (any) slash and hib leather is resistant to any form of slash

<whereas Alb slash gets a penalty on Middy leather.>

again you are completely misinformed: actually mid leather is vunerable to slash so albion/hib slash rocks on sbs.

<Also, one thing that makes SZ so great at Thidranki is LA. You just cannot compare the power of LA @ lvl24 to similar spec DW.>

think about this: sbs need to spec left axe, weapon, stealth, CS AND envenom with only 2,2 spec points. Yes i know left axe rocks in endgame templates but i havent been impressed by the damage output they show in Thidranki. They need to spec for it, we get a 25% chance to doublewield free (actually it raised a bit per lvl but cant be arsed to look up how much exactly) Today ive soloed sbs lots of times, and i can honestly say i beat 9 out of 10 times the sb

For the rest, i hear from so many people they overspecced stealth: 22+5 stealth is 66 points wasted which you could have spend in either slash or envenom.

Thufir, lvl 24 nightshade.

 

[Roalith]

I've respecced to 24+5 stealth. Good luck finding me

 

[old.chesnor]

Okay, okay, wrong about the armour tables. Third PA down is on Laarns, an SB. I just assumed the penalty there was down to armour tables, but I guess it might be resists.

As for Shadowzerkers, you are misinformed. The spec you talk of there is 5-spec. Shdowzerkers generally forget high envenom/PA to melee like the maniacs they are. I doubt you have met many SZ tbh, as they would hand your ass to you on a plate, as SZ>NS (no matter how the NS specs). 5-spec SBs are not particularly good in Thidranki, as 2.2 is not enough @ lvl24 to work that spec. Shadowzerkers do get enough though. Believe me, and they hurt. Badly...A shadowzerker will out melee any other assassin class in the game at lvl24, end of. The only chance you have against them is getting that PA off EVERY time then hoping you evade lots, they don't, you don't miss, they do, your poison isn't resisted...etc..etc..etc..i.e. you get lucky and they don't.

 

[swords]

so a true SZ is stealth axe and left axe....

it would seem unusual for an assasin not to PA but i accept this spec works...i have experienced a lvl 50 one.....he did some kind of long duration stun style on my merc...it was then a case of waiting for him to stop the beatdown :/