Goodbye

[old.Mr Crapini]

So-long and thanks for all the fish

The way it is: (plz read)

I spoke to a BW representative earlier today and requested that all information about me displayed by HLStats, With the exception of the player ranking, to be made inaccessable or non-viewable to anyone except for BW admin and personel. So what I asked for is for my name to become unlinkable from the Player rankings list to all but BW admins and personel. I was informed that BW cannot comply with my request, this was unnacceptable to me and as a result I have decided to leave BW CS servers until and if it becomes posible.

The boring sentimental bit: (optional)

{Lights Joint and exhales}

Luvs the game luvs the ppl at BW, thx and well done to the CS admins, nothing brightens your game like seeing cheats get booted and I have seen alot of that.

{re-lights cos it went out}

To those I've killed and those that have killed me over my roughly 2 year residence on BW CS servers, I hope you enjoyed killing me as much as I did you all its been a plesure.

{Gets a coffee}

The questionably insane section: (optional)

So I am sorry to leave all and I'm sure some ppls scores will all be bit lower now without me storming the same way every time and wildly firing off full clips of AK ammo in a repeated and predictable manner. And to others, those whose scores will improve with my absence be pleased cos now its far safer as a VIP to enter the tunnel on Tundra or as CT to enter the front door on Militia and even to take the middle path on Italy (through the house), the tunnel on Estate is also a much safer route for CTs as is the entire vegas map.

{rolls again}

The Reality (Unadvisable)

To the forum ppl that have responded to my crappy posts and cries for help ty for all your assistance and technical advice over the years (I don't think it did any good) I will be popping back to this forum periodically to see if BW has changed their minds and to abuse and disagree with u all, just prolly not as often as I have recently (damnit I have just got used to this forum, look I have made a god damned avatar now and everything) .
lol
So goodbye guyz n girlz its been fun and thx BW for the quality gaming experience it really has been good.

{Wipes tear from eye}

The future of me (Whatever)

I am now going in search of a predominantly UK public server that has anti cheat software, constant admins, a low ping and a large group of farm animals with bad aim

Goodbye

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P.S. I'm not doing this cos I'm a bad or abusive player as I was ranked at seventy something when I stopped playing CS and turned my attention to this and I wasn't really trying . (Well thats all Folks) hf

 

[Deebs]

So,

why are you doing this?

BW is not making ANY PERSONAL information about public. The information we are making available is readily available at places like serverspy.net and theclq.com. Are you asking them the same request?

Personal information is deemed as: real name, age, address,sex,religion type stuff as defined by the DPA in the UK.

Wonids, number of frags, who fragged you, who you fragged, what server you like playing on, is NOT personal information.

Anyway, sorry to see you go, best luck but I suspect more and more GSP/ISP will start to implement logging of sorts across all their game servers.

As for not wanting to remove you, this is still a very much beta service for which these types of request is very low priority. We are gathering stats to plan capacity planning, disk usage, cpu usage, network usage.

After we have this information, we will then start to implement the system and you *may* find that players can remove themselves from being displayed. At this time we do not have the time/resource to do it.

 

[Tom]

I don't understand crapini, what is your objection

 

[old.Mr Crapini]

Originally posted by DBs

So,

why are you doing this?

BW is not making ANY PERSONAL information about public. The information we are making available is readily available at places like serverspy.net and theclq.com. Are you asking them the same request?

Personal information is deemed as: real name, age, address,sex,religion type stuff as defined by the DPA in the UK.

Wonids, number of frags, who fragged you, who you fragged, what server you like playing on, is NOT personal information.


>>>>[[[ I consider having my exact CS gaming times of play and which servers I am using regularly to be of a personal nature or for use by CS/BW admins. I wouldn't have objected to this extent if the dates and times of my gameplay hadn't been listed. There are other aspects of the HLStats that I am not altogether happy about being displayed such as my won ID, Aliases and more or less all the stats once again I stress I have no objection to BW staff having access. ]]]


Anyway, sorry to see you go, best luck but I suspect more and more GSP/ISP will start to implement logging of sorts across all their game servers.

As for not wanting to remove you, this is still a very much beta service for which these types of request is very low priority. We are gathering stats to plan capacity planning, disk usage, cpu usage, network usage.

After we have this information, we will then start to implement the system and you *may* find that players can remove themselves from being displayed. At this time we do not have the time/resource to do it.


>>>>>[[[ I appreciate you're very busy and thx for your response and as I have said, I will be delighted to return as soon and if BW decide to make it possible and can find the time/resources to do it. ]]]

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Best Regards
Mr Crapini

 

[throdgrain]

Sorry to see you go Mr.Crapini, had a good game with you just the other day.But I dont really understand the problem , clq etc already do this, jolt servers already do it, it dont really matter does it?

 

[Embattle]

Pathetic...but your decision.

 

[Grimes]

Does the following work, or has it been disabled?

Say /hideranking while playing on a participating game server. This will toggle you between being visible on the Player Rankings and being invisible.

Note You will still be tracked and you can still view your Player Details page. Use the Search page to find yourself.

 

[Tom]

I understand your concerns about the actual time u played being logged, as an unscrupulous person might try and use that to hack your machine more successfully. The wonid, well, there are no cheats that can simulate a wonid (r there?), or derive a cdkey from the wonid (yet).

You're not gonna get banned from servers just cos ppl can c your wonid r u?

I can't see any way that anybody could use these details to your detriment. Other than a crap score on an off-day!

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

Hmmm, cya m8 but I really can't see the point

At the end of the day the stats. are just a more indepth CLQ read out...

WONid is a bit dodge being on display, but d00d, nothing to leave over

 

[]SK[]

Cya

 

[Ono]

Dunno what to say really.

Words fail me.


Think Embattle summed it up really.

 

[MYstIC G]

Originally posted by Mr Crapini
I consider having my exact CS gaming times of play and which servers I am using regularly to be of a personal nature or for use by CS/BW admins. I wouldn't have objected to this extent if the dates and times of my gameplay hadn't been listed.

No offence m8, but as an admin I believe I can speak for most of the CS ones when I say "none of us care when you play", your loss if you leave this place, but your decision.

 

[S-Gray]

Lol Mystic, anyhow Crapini lol i dont think i played with you on CS and i doubt i will now lol, i was startin to get into the BW Servers until i changed computer systems and GameSpy been bitchy

so anyway lol cya around on some other server apart from barrysworld..? lol if and when we play

Ta Taa

 

[Tom]

Mystic you're not in any way related to Gerald Ratner are you?

 

[MYstIC G]

who the fuck is Gerald Ratner?

 

[S-Gray]

Lol some rich fecker it seems.. just done a search for him lol...

 

[Skyler]

All I can say is lol @ Crapini.....

What a stupid fucked up reason for "leaving" Barrysworld servers, just gonna move onto jolt, who are doing hlstats soon, or BY, who do log just not in HL stats?

Dont be so bloody stupid, so what people know how much you died and when you played, they cant get much info from that. Not even the time things show any worth while info apart from "last played *time*".....

This is the most pointless thing I've ever seen in cs

 

[Mr Flibble]

hmm I'm confused too, seems to me the worst thing I can think any of that info being used for would be something like "U r sad for playing last friday night instead of going out"

Maybe u have some wierd personal reason but atm I can't think of one

 

[S-Gray]

Lol i dont think he is coming back... uh oh.. lol, he should have replied by now

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by MYstIC G
who the fuck is Gerald Ratner?

"Crap jewelry" ring any bells?

 

[S-Gray]

Ohh, so he is the fella who sells that cheap fake jewellery at Market Stores? cool now i have a name to call him lol

 

[Tom]

No Gerald Ratner was the CE of Ratner's, a nationwide jewelry chain of shops. One day at a shareholder's meeting, while speaking at the lecturn, he said something like this:

"People often ask me why Ratner's is so succesfull; well, because we sell crap"

It got into the papers, Ratner's went down the pan, and our Gerald learned a painful lesson - respect the intelligence of your customers.

 

[MYstIC G]

Originally posted by tomjeffs


"Crap jewelry" ring any bells?

No, no bells, hell even now you've explained it I'm still like 'oh, right, him...... o....k....'

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Anyone can see your WonID ingame anyway :/
As for the times you play on, and the aliases you use, all i can say is that you're either playing for 2 clans, playing as 2 notible people, inmitating others, or you're just uber-paranoid :/

 

[Ch3tan]

Lol Crapini m8 you've flipped.

 

[old.Mr Crapini]

Thx for your replies all
I'll attempt now to answer some of the questions from your responses:

Thodgrain

" clq etc already do this, jolt servers already do it, it don't really matter does it? "

I don't play CS at the CLQ or Jolt and any1 wanting any information on me would have had to go out of their way to visit one of those sites. The CLQ (to my knowledge) does not display recorded times and dates (my main objection) in the form of a 30 day minute by minute breakdown of my gameplay as does the Event History link from the HLStats Player Details page of the Stats. As for Jolt, I don't play CS on Jolt servers (anymore) and was Strictly a BW player and as a result I don't really care what Jolt have to display at their sites. BW HlStats for me seems to have brought this information closer, more accessable and with a much higher level of information which in my opinion is a little too high in places.

And yes Throd we did have a goodgame the other day, actually we have had quite a few good games (due to the power of my Aliass' and my virtual anonimity)

Embattle

Pathetic.... A pathetic person would be unlikely to voice their opinion and would be unlikely to have objected at all.
But your decision.... Yes it is, I am unhappy about something, I did what I could to rectify my prob, it couldn't be rectified at this time, so have chosen an alternative, np. But my decision, yes.

Grimes

You asked if "say /hideranking" worked, yes it prolly does work, however as per your post "Note You will still be tracked and you can still view your Player Details page." Well as it's the information displayed in the Player Details page I have a prob with, it dosen't solve my prob. thx anyway 4 trying.

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CHOW!

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TomJeffs

You lil diamond u

"I understand your concerns about the actual time u played being logged." Thank go d 4 that Some1 understands.

My concern is not only due to the unscrupulous ppl out there haxing u, but this also would aid ppl (if they should wish to) essentially stalking you, me or anybody. If the times and dates were removed or made admin view this would hinder any crap activity. IMO.
"The wonid, well, there are no cheats that can simulate a wonid (r there?), or derive a cdkey from the wonid (yet)?" Well I don't know either TBH but the less my wonID is flashed around the happier I'll be.
And lol as for the banned part of your post well as I don't cheat and don't intentionally TW or TK I am not that worried about being banned.
As for the crap scores, it happens (quite alot actually) but a crap score sometimes can come as a result from playing a very fun and enjoyable and usually difficult game of CS against superior opponents but it can still be fun. In my defence, good scores can happen sometimes also, this is 1 of my better scores:

[Insert link to Piccy]

(beyond my forum capability it was 50+ score on BW 5) :/
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Deletes the crap 1s

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DollySheep (were you also DollyTheHaxorSheep or was that some1 else? ... nm)

"Hmmm" - That's what I thought when I looked at HLStats.
As regards to my point not being clear, I am attempting to clarify ATM.
At the end of the day it just feels a little intrusive with too much info displayed in the time and date department.
"WONid is a bit dodge being on display" again that dosen't feel right to me either.
"nothing to leave over" well I hope this is just temporary.

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+SA+SerialKilla

"Cya" - So long.

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Ono

I refer to the Embattle section above /\/\/\/\/\/\

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Mystic G

Thx 4 your post
Quote "No offence m8" I nearly fell out of my chair, that's the nicest thing I have ever seen u write

" but as an admin I believe I can speak for most of the CS ones when I say "none of us care when you play"
well that is exactly how it should be as I am not a cheat or disruptive player so my whereabouts should be of little concern to admins in that regard.
As to the inclusion of CS/BW admins in my posts I do this in the circumstance of my being accused or suspected of cheating (which does happen) and then should admin requre to, they can gain access to my player details in order to and if they need to while investigating.
As to my loss if I leave.... :uhoh: Being an eternal optomist I hope I haven't.


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Super_Gray (General Zao)

We have played each other, you were pretty good.

"Ta Taa" - Ta Taa

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TomJeffs

With Davros chair batteries fully charged, perfectly displays the art of subtle wit as often witnessed on this forum. n1
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Flys over the heads of others.
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Skyler (gives a fluffle as I sense a life devoid of love)

"What a stupid fucked up reason for "leaving" Barrysworld servers" Ya np with that, not every1 is going to agree with my objections/reasons, the world would be very boring if that was to happen.
I hope bits and pieces throught this post help you to understand my reasons more.
As to moving to jolt - no I won't, I have been there and just didn't feel at home there, also from other posts here I have learned that Jolt have a stats thing 2. BY I admit I did try last night but found it a little lifeless, with little conversation and little fun as most ppl there seem to get off the mark from spawn pretty damned slowly, (with weapons drawn, slowing me up) then they all seemed to camp awaiting the enemy which usually left me 50 or so metres ahead with no backup to engage the opposing herd of awp weilding campers. I couldn't help but think that surely CS wasn't meant to be played like this
So for the moment my server quest continues but have not found a replacement so far.

"This is the most pointless thing I have ever seen in CS "
I hope this post of mine will help you to see my point a little clearer.

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Has totally resisted the temptation to respond with "Havent you ever read through any of your own forum entries ??"

Who the fk said that ??? JK
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Mr Flibble

Your name's not familier to me, anyway here goes with a response:

"seems to me the worst thing I can think any of that info being used for would be something like "U r sad for playing last friday night instead of going out"
Then u wrote :
"Maybe u have some wierd personal reason but atm I can't think of one"

Well your opening sentance contains "One reason" you have thought of.

Glad to help.
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Super_Gray

Ahem (clears throat)
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TomJeffs ( clarifies his earlier humour to no avail.
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You can take a horse to water but you can't teach it to surf
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Shocking Alberto

"Anyone can see your WonID ingame anyway" yes they can, they type status in the console to look at it. The wonID, displayed at HLStats is a minor objection of mine its just that now its slightly more in-your-face available.
As for my Aliass', and I have used many it used to give me the "right"to using an alias when playing badly and to use a different one when feeling like playing on form. I enjoyed this annonyimity and its loss is partly my objection.

I can see the admin advantages to knowing player whereabouts and alias's but thats about as far as I go, anymore and it starts to seem as if I am filling out a questionaire to be posted in my local paper without my prior knowedge or consent.
And no I'm not in any clans ATM nor do I want 1

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Chetan

"Lol Crapini m8 you've flipped." well mebe, to me I'm just speaking my mind about something that is bothering me.

 

[Embattle]

Originally posted by Mr Crapini
Embattle

Pathetic.... A pathetic person would be unlikely to voice their opinion and would be unlikely to have objected at all.

It can also be someone who voices an opinion that doesn't make a lot of sense....as stated it's your choice though.

 

[S-Gray]

Lol i cant remember playin against yeh.. :s, lol, yeah Cya again lol

 

[Tom]

I tend to agree with Crapini on the more personal aspects of what information is logged.

Let me put it this way - If every time you used Internet Explorer, a little trojan sent basic 'time of connection' information to Microsoft, you'd all get pretty mad, right? Especially if that information was freely available to other users. Information like this is of interest to commercial operators. It helps them direct advertising. I know that the bwstats won't be of much use in this instance, but Crapini is making a point of principle.

In fact, there are several hidden directorys that IE uses to store a history, hidden directorys that cannot easily be traced (they will not show up using a dir /ah command, or in the explorer window). The file index.dat in one of these dirs on my computer is well over 10Mb in size. You don't believe me? Look here: f**kmicrosoft

Bad for paedophiles, but also bad for those of use who believe in a more open environment to work in.

I digress. Anyway, I agree that this is personal information that should not be available to all and sundry. Stats are one thing, but what does it matter to the cs community at what times a person plays? This information should really be admin-only. It is of no interest to the public.

I'm not writing this because Crapini gave me credit in his post, (although that was a nice comment about my ickle joke), just listen to his concerns, and try and imagine the possible consequences of this type of monitoring in general.

 

[Embattle]

I agree with somethings not needing to be public but all this privacy stuff is crap...as soon as you go on the internet, in fact as soon as you wake up, your privacy is already under invansion.

At the end of the day while he sees it as a valid reason to take flight most of us don't.....but thats the way the cookie crumbles