Funny coincidence(or is it? =)

[old.Lythande]

http://forums.warcry.com/read.php?f=10181&i=61988&t=61947#61

Hmm, I'm sure there's another one of those servers.. What was its name.. EXCALIBUR! That's it, now I remember.


/me waits for the flames from the insecure albs feeling threatened.

 

[Karam_gruul]

its just because they have 10x the numbers of the other realms? bull shite no chance in hell we have even near 10x the amount of people, as i've said before, i've never been in a fight and not felt outnumbered.

albs never run anymore, hense why we have both mid relics and ours back

 

[old.Organ-Grinder]

i agree x10 is a silly figure to say . ya we have mo folks . but that also means we have more newbs . and more low con chars in rvr . which = more rps for you mids/hibs

i dont recall at all mids/hibs Moaning about how many folks we got when we were all low lvls and you were ganking us everyday now we got out lvls up you complain , stop complaining is what i advise . it wil all even out eventually :sleeping:

 

[Runsy]

heh spoked about this tonight.. albs are SOO mutch more peeps in rvr then mid, sure we have perhaps 40 players in emain.
10 of these are lvl 40+
15 of these are lvl 30+
the remaning 15 are lvl 10+
No im not whining, and no we dont get any more rpts caus as u say u have more low lvl's in emian.
Of c u do, and u have more lvl 40+ aswell.
how ever, i realy think they shoud do something, not just with excl, but with pryd aswell where they have kinda the same prob i think (with middys).
if a realm have more players then the rest, they shoud suffer a penalty for that.
For an example:
Midgård online: 400 ( 50 in emain)
Hib online: 450 (65 in emain)
Alb online: 1500 (200 in emain)
the realm with this diffirence shoud get like 30% less dmg in rvr or atleast some degrade.
this is just an idea, i know u wont like it, and the noumbers i just wrote is a _made up_ noumbers.

i dont know what u think about this.
Feel free to say what u think.

 

[old.Organ-Grinder]

ive never seen 200+ in /who emain maybe a cple of times 70+ averagre times i /who emain i proly get 30-40 results midgards gets big armys into emain also and so does hib on occasion . the hib rproblem is the distance they have to run to come to rvr i can imagine a lot of them running all the way to near the tk walls and getting killed unable to get a rez and think fuck it i ait running all the way back there again for the same thing to happen, im sure every hib has done that , as has also albs/mids thought they cant be assed trecking back to the rvr hotspots . imo i thinka bind stone at the rvr fort areas "castle suvage ofr example" wouldbe a good idea ,

 

[Feldegast]

Also we all have to consider that the EU servers have only just opened, when all realms get more lvl 50's and have a real army thats always RvR:ing more or less I think we are going so see a more even gameplay..

Dont think the bindstone is going to happen tho, even if its really annoying to have to run all the way back.

Reason is that U need atleast some time to be able to perform a relicraid or whatever ur up to.. with a bind close by all will suicide and be there to defend more or less instant.. and a defended relic fort is not an easy task to take down..

my 2 cents..

 

[old.Stix]

Originally posted by Karam
its just because they have 10x the numbers of the other realms? bull shite no chance in hell we have even near 10x the amount of people, as i've said before, i've never been in a fight and not felt outnumbered.

albs never run anymore, hense why we have both mid relics and ours back

10x is obviously hyperbole and shouldn't be taken literally. Secondly, maybe 95% of the time that I've been in emain, there have been more albs than mids, and more often than not, a LOT more. Suggesting otherwise smacks of extreme bias.

Your final point doesn't make sense - the issue of whether or not albs run in battles has nothing to do with undertaking quiet, successful relic raids. Personally, I've seen some outstanding organisation from all the realms now, though it's usually limited to smaller groups.

However, I would like to make one more point. 50% alb population on Excal is just like the Lancelot server in the US (out of all the US servers, it's the most unbalanced US server by far in terms of population, I believe). Such an imbalance on this US server is serious enough that even Mythic have officially recognised and acknowledged it as being a cause for concern, though they won't take any action in the belief/hope that it will sort itself out over time.

Food for thought?

 

[old.Hatchet]

So if alb has so many nubs - how about posting us a nice route thru Pennines so we can come and harvest them on your frontiers?

Hibs & Mids kill each other all the time yet with pennines being so dammed awkward to trek thru .... sux ;/

 

[Armolas]

Harry there is a very easy safe route to sauvage (snowdonia is another matter).

To get to sauvage:

1. Go to the entrance of the pennines.
2. Turn East and run all the way to the zone wall (thee are some trees of some sort around, they are easy to avoid).
3. Hug the zone wall All the way south to the river in forest Sauvage.

You will pass close to some forts, but as long as you are on the wall they won't bother you (don't try this going to snowdonia though as the patrols do go that high on the other side).

There is one tensemoment where there are some mobs with bows and arrow, they have fairly long aggro range, so be sure it is safe to cross there.

I have been to Sauvage a few timessince working out the route (I used to try a cpl of times each time I dinged, and finally worked it out - possibly the first non stealther on Excal to get to Sauvage?)


Everything there is very grey, and unlike at say ligen, you can kill a few albs outside thier realm gate, and no one will come to track you down. ( I have kileld a few greys there before, and waited, and waited, and waited ... nothing)

BTW don't try and go round the two guard towers to see the entrance until you are bored and want to go home.


Have fun.

 

[old.Paranoid]

/me sighs

Guys, we know we out number you, yes some of our strength lies in numbers, I dont care if you flame us, i will more often then not leave the big group cos i dont like storming through and leaving a trail of dead.

By now all of albion must know we have more players then the rest... Its a fact.. stop posting threads about it and start getting out there cos il be watching you on a hill, quite far away.. cos my stealth sux...

Strength in numbers... stength in power... stregth in organistaion... all of them are viable strangths in war.. you have some, we have others (numbers) so lets just play the game and have fun...

If it continues i will end up deleting my characters and startign hib/mid just to shh you up...

btw... tho only reason i chose albion.. was cos its position on the realm choise screen.. smack bam in the middle..

 

[Eblessair]

lmfao

 

[Zag Barr]

2 days in Emain

Just recently I spent some extended time in Emain.

First day I went early in the afternoon in a 6 men team. We had many nice encounters with with a high level mid squad. Both sides were pretty even on the numbers and we had 4 nice fights, until the Albion hoardes arrived. It got boring then, others camping MPK and we left. Barely any hibs that day.

Last night was even more fun. After getting owned twice by hoardes of hibs, we found some dear friends along the road and built a 8 men cross guild "pest-control" squad. Other than our group, there were only a few low con Albs in emain. I don't want to brag and you hibs and mids out there, you know how many you were. For me it was fun - don't know about you

So what am I saying:

1. Albs running = Prejudice.
Some do, but my personal experience is different.

2. Albs outnumbering = Prejudice.
Yes, we have higher numbers in general, but how things look on the battlefield is different every time. Sometimes we do outnumber and sometimes you do - sometimes it's even. It really depends on the occasion, the situation and the time of the day.

3. Albs only wining when they outnumber = Prejudice.
Yes, sometimes we do, sometimes you do. Maybe we outnumber more often, since statistics are against you. But in general you will see all situations on any given day in Emain.


In one night our 8 man team prooved all of the above.

Even though nobody can be happy about the number situation on this server, there is still lots of possibilities to enjoy the fights in the frontier lands, for all realms. Of course it's no fun when 100+ of us Albs hang out in Emain and kill everything on sight. It's even less fun for us, than it is for you - my opinion.

I for my part, try to stay away from the big crowds - and very often get ganked for it Only judging from the times I get killed, and the amount of realm points some of you give me, I would say you have fun, too

 

[Aeiedil]

and a defended relic fort is not an easy task to take down..

isn't that the whole point?

 

[old.Nol]

*cough*

this 8 man tag team team...were you actually in emain, or at your pk gesturing?

 

[Verena]

Originally posted by Organ-Grinder
the hib rproblem is the distance they have to run to come to rvr i can imagine a lot of them running all the way to near the tk walls and getting killed unable to get a rez and think fuck it i ait running all the way back there again for the same thing to happen,

You just hit the nail on it's head. For me this is the main reason why as soon as I reached R2 I haven't gone back there ever since. I actually haven't RvR'd at all after that. I just hate the running all the way to get ganked by some soloing stealther (Alpha ) in a spot where noone is ever gonna find/rez you.

I play at very ackward times so often I login really late and do a /who emain and if there's more then 30 people there I'll head there ASAP. I'm a class with a "tiny" speedspell and still it annoys the crap outta me. The slow traveling is the main reason why I'm really thinking of dumping this game and jump on the next MMORPG that comes along.

 

[old.Nol]

V

I am normally on at odd times, do a search for Nolerdraic, my bard speed makes the trip quite easy and we(group) normally survive a while out there. I actually prefer smaller army action as the oppotunities to use some skill arrise.

TBH I think a bind stone in the frontier telekeep's is a good plan, for me the problem is not so much the run to emain, but rather the horse ride from mbeo that is infuriating.

 

[Keri]

Do a /send Keri Hi ... is your taxi operating tonight?

All bards need to group in RvR, and should be encouraged to take part. Even the second speed song (Nurture lvl 13 - 50% increase) will help.

I find getting XP groups increasingly difficult, and I'm more than happy to head up to Emain and do my taxi/heal/rez/mez thing. Two more levels and I get 89% speed increase.

 

[Danya]

How much nuture do most bards spec? I currently have the 89% speed increase, will be getting the 105% in a couple of levels, wondering if most bards spec enough to get that high or not?

 

[old.Nol]

I will be speccing to the max

speed song song 5 mate - rest in music, and when respec comes, I would like to sort out the crap n00b errors I made too...

 

[Riddler]

Originally posted by Dannyn
How much nuture do most bards spec? I currently have the 89% speed increase, will be getting the 105% in a couple of levels, wondering if most bards spec enough to get that high or not?

Its quite easier for us Skalds/Minstrels to get the speed songs cause we just have to max our main line (Battlesongs/Instruments) and we get the speed songs at lvl 3,13,23,33,43 then we train in Wpn/Parry(stealth for minstrels) with the leftovers

Bards however have 3 lines to train in + they most probably wanna train some in Wpn as well (dunno but i presume they wanna ) And keeping ONLY nurture maxed would make them a pretty bad group character, they need some healing and CC as well

So yes, bards use longer time to get the faster speed songs, but yeye, i think bard is a kewl class anyways

 

[old.Nol]

combat

Don't think you need combat specs at all tbh, our jobs as bards are to taxi, mezz and rezz - with some healing thrown in, if I am tanking then I am screwing up somewhere else(like not playing my songs).

Playing a bard takes a certain kind of mindset, we don't get kill glory and stuff, hib sucks in emain without bards out in force, when the high lvl bards are out we rock. IMO we are one of the most valued group classes, I get groups with guys 15 lvls higher then for RvR, just because of speed song.

 

[Danya]

I can easily group with higher level players in RvR because of speed song, when it comes to PvE though they don't want to hear it. *sigh*

 

[Riddler]

hehe, yeah kinda getting used to be in grps in rvr cause of speed, then a lvl 43+ skald joins and im sacked

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Dannyn
I can easily group with higher level players in RvR because of speed song, when it comes to PvE though they don't want to hear it. *sigh*

Very strange.

When I was slogging to 50 there were very few Sorcs about so we often had 2 Minsts in the Grp. 1 doing the mezing and the 2nd playing battery for the Clerics/Thurgs/Wizs while we hammered trees in Lyonesse over and over and over and over ........

The 2nd Minst was often 40(ish) cause 39 power regen is good enough and the Thurgs were often 35+ earth spec cause we needed their BT

Maybe xp groups r differant now ?

 

[old.Stix]

Logged on to DAOC for a change today.

Met the Finster-led alb zerg at mfg2, and then later at dc.

Logged off.

What fun.

lol