FtUK League (Freezetag UK)

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old.[EoD]Riz

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What with a league for every other mod I reckon it's about time Freezetag had one!

Mutterings with other FT clans suggest that we should have enough for a league, and who knows others may follow?

To get the ball rolling I'd like to open a discussion on what maps to use, rules, times to play etc etc., and see if there's enough interest to make a go of it all?

As an opener I'll offer my thoughts:

Teams: 5v5 (max 3 lpb)
Maps: DM1,2,8 2xCTF?? 2x Custom??
Type: league (ladders don't work IMHO)
Settings: same as current BW FT server (no hook!)
Rules: similar to UKCCL
Admins: ?? I'm game but have little experience...

So what do you reckon, is this worth taking a step further??
 
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old.Giant

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>Teams: 5v5 (max 3 lpb)

Team size sounds about right, anymore and it gets hard to find maps big enough to play on.

>Maps: DM1,2,8 2xCTF?? 2x Custom??

I'd like to add DM4 personally, since with 5 v 5 it's plenty large enough. CTF Maps I can't see working at all to be honest, there would be no real incentive to leave the base and anyone frozen would just be dragged back to base ..... making it difficult if not impossible to thaw them. Custom maps I'm all for but I think that we'd need to get them sorted well in advance of the start of the league and have them put into the rotation on the BW FT server.

>Type: league (ladders don't work IMHO)

Yup couldn't agree more, ideally 1 / 2 divisions given the current lack of server space.

>Settings: same as current BW FT server (no hook!)

Yeah, powerups on, hook off, quad drop on, instant powerups etc.

>Rules: similar to UKCCL

I would suggest a more CTF approach, in that go on team Score, ie number of times opposing team frozen ..... in a say 30min match

>Admins: ?? I'm game but have little experience...

Errmmm /me sticks his hand up I've adminned for the UKCCL and am a current UKQCL admin.

Hope this gets off the ground , the main problem I can see is when do we play the matches, since the BW League server diary is quite full. A second problem is that if we include custom maps into the BW FT map rotation we may well scare off some of the newer players to the scene. However, we'll see
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old.Monyet

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hehe i suggest getting a meeting together (in IRC) and discussing EVERYTHING with a representative from each of the interested clans.

anyone wanna suggest a date/time?

-Monyet

oh yeah - we need to talk to someone about using servers :p
 
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old.Giant

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Yeah a meeting in IRC would be a good idea, altho we don't necessarily need to get the clans themselves involved at the mo .... I think we need to have most of the framework setup before we start recruiting clans to join the league. Yes gather initial numbers to see if it's worth the effort, but IMHO we should set the league up as a fait accompli. That way we don't end up with league designed by committee.

Just some more thoughts on the subject
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old.Smoketoomuch

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I'd be game, currently clanless tho. If anyone wants an extra member for FT lemme know.
 
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old.Monyet

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hey smokey - aren't you in LE?!!

hehe

seriously though i think we should get representatives from each of the interested clans to discuss the maps at least :p

-Monyet
 
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old.[EoD]Riz

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How about 3 or even 4 team FT? The only good thing to come out in the latest mod IMHO... it would cut down on server time and number of matches to be played.

And yes we must all meet and chat - lunchtimes are best (most reliable) time for me to be online...

ICQ: 23496370
 
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old.LE_Campfreddy

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Smoke - You are welcome in LE FT's Squad for old time sake =-)

I can Admin and I would suggest 40 min games
20mins - break then 20mins scroing along the lines of savage.

LE are on for it!

Good luck with getting the servers! =-)
 
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old.YaYa

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Yup, i'm up for the league, just hope it works as we know the ladders we tried to set up didn't work.
Some quick points about rules, if you are gonna keep ukccl rules then does that mean we can still use 1 foriegn player or just UK players?, another thing to consider is no shows, are clans going to be able to replay or is it going to be a default win for the team that shows, personally i think a no excuses default win is the answer because we don't want it to end up like the FT tourney (did that ever finish or is it still running).
I'd be interested in being at the meeting when all things are decided, if this is possoble please try to mail me with the time and date well before the event (cant use this thing much now being on the dole and all that
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cya later all

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old.Giant

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I would suggest 40 min games
20mins - break then 20mins scroing along the lines of savage<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds like a damn good idea. Personally I think that 2 team would be best, unless you put weapon stay on ..... there are simply too many players running about the map. You would end up with mass blaster fights.

just some more thoughts

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old.[EoD]Riz

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It's good to see there's the will to get this league underway! Now we need to rough out the framework... how about meeting up on IRC at 9pm-10pm tonight (Mon 26 July) in #ftuk?

I'm away for me jolhols at the end of this week for two weeks and have been banned from taking a laptop with me
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, so would like to get summit sorted before then...
 
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old.[EoD]Riz

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Ok it seems most people are busy with praccys/matches etc so it's now a later meet, 23:30 onwards in #ftuk?
 
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old.Doolittle

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Hey guys!

If there's any way I can help, please let me know!

[EoD]Doolittle
 
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old.Tres

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Yeah guys, I am up for an FT league, it's about time someone sorted one, well done! I don't mind being an admin if you need me, and I would like to be added to the FtUK (or FUK) mailing list.

Keep me posted! BTW are you going to allow "FT clans" to play, such as a collection of players from clans into a new FT only clan?

Let me know...

[FLC]Tres
 
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old.Giant

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Yup we certainly are gonna let 'FT' clans as you put it play in the league, after all UFO my own clan are an FT clan, I play DM and CTF for TJD normally
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Altho it must be noted that we are gonna be fairly strict on Clan's in terms of players.

We have the experiences of the other leagues to draw on in that respect
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Doolittle:

There's not all that much that needs doing to the mod, altho some more matchplay oriented commands might be helpful ?

/me makes mental note to go read the readme in the new mod version
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old.Delboy

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This is great news, wish I'd been to the meeting, but I like what I've seen in the extract.

I've no experience of Adminning, but willing to help out if one is required and take it from there.

I'm in HsF at the moment, But I don't see them objecting to me playing in a clan for this mod (if anyone wants me
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old.Monyet

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We are going to hold ANOTHER MEETING

Date : This Sunday
Time : Bout 9pm

Doolittle if your reading this - is there a match mode for FT? with a clock and all that?

in fact - can you make the meeting this sunday?
 
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old.Giant

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Just a note, I'll deffo be there, and I've changed the topic in #ftuk to mention it
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Not that anyone ever goes in there anyway :/

Giant
 
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old.[EoD]Riz

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Well it's high time we got this thing rolling again I reckon!

I'd like us to decide on the format of the league as some new ideas have risen to the surface, these are:

* Rabbit League, where there's a ladder in which you can challenge a clan upto two positions above you, servers are booked on BW. Winner is top of the league after an agreed time, say 4-5 weeks?

* 0wner League, where an agreed set of maps are battled over between the clans, each clan 0wning a series of maps and having to defend them and attack other clans for additional maps - the winner is the clan
with the most maps after say 4-5 weeks? Again servers booked on BW.
See http://www.lpg.fi/wargrounds/ for an example, I play in this league and it works very well indeed...

* Handicap system, where the winning team of the league gets given a -1 handicap for all future matches, if they win the league again it gets increased to -2 and so on - this will make it much more balanced and give the better teams an incentive to play their best against the not so good teams. I mean you wouldn't want EoD to keep winning all the
time now would you!
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So get yerself in #ftuk on irc.barrysworld.com on Friday night at 11pm
and hupfly we can get this sorted and running asap...
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old.Giant

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And whilst we're there we can get a consensus for a new BW map cycle.

No I'm not going to give up on this issue, I'm fed up to the back teeth with the Q2DMX maps
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Giant
 
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