Friggin PVP is doomed

[ironheart]

I have level 50 or i'm higher then you; so let the rest go to hell!!!

thats the general mentality here.


my point of vieuw for PVP is the following,

We have a given system, ppl can kill each other. Thats a nice addition. BUT why the useless killing???
I think that the only reason why ppl can kill each other is that there allways is a way to settle problems. U can smack each other , BUT why camp PK bridge and all exits to kill all ppl leaving??? WHATS the use, OK u gain XP, u find some coins, BUT mob killing and guild organizing seems to be the priority to me.

here i go again: KIDS thats the major problem, egoistical KIDS. As long as i have fun it's ok, what the rest thinks, i don't give a damn. WOW, nice attitude. This might explain why the server will be deserted in a couple of months. Already loads of ppl left cause of this type of behaviour.



WHAT SHOULD ONE DO ON PVP: according to my point of vieuw

LVL, JOIN GUILD; BUT DO NOT KILL OTHER PPL WITHOUT A REASON
WHY CAN WE DO IT THEN???
WELL: U can join a guild level, and be protected; guildmanagers can declare war on other guilds or put a bounty on once head for killing a member. USE THE PVP sytem to fight guild wars, meet at the centre of the plains, 50 vs 50 and fight it out, subdue ur enemies.
USE PVP to act accordingly, IRL u can smack everyone , DO U DO IT????NO!!!!! WHY??? CAUSE U GET PENALIZED!!!
SO to all PK'ing morans out there that kill unguilded ppl without a reason: I'm not on the wrong server U GUYS ARE!!!!
U pk'ers should be on the counterstrike server or quacke server, NOT on PVP RPG server.


THIS is a mag to GOA and MYTHIC, altho u lock ppl 's account for their type of behaviour, create a system that ppl understand, u know KIDS play, so create a server for KIDS, CREATE a PK server, leave all mobs out of the game and let those kids kill each other until they get bored, instead of making other ppl that wanne have fun leave this ONE server.

PVP is FUN but KIDS ruin it!!!!!!!!!

 

[commie]

Originally posted by ironheart
I have level 50 or i'm higher then you; so let the rest go to hell!!!

thats the general mentality here.


my point of vieuw for PVP is the following,

We have a given system, ppl can kill each other. Thats a nice addition. BUT why the useless killing???
I think that the only reason why ppl can kill each other is that there allways is a way to settle problems. U can smack each other , BUT why camp PK bridge and all exits to kill all ppl leaving??? WHATS the use, OK u gain XP, u find some coins, BUT mob killing and guild organizing seems to be the priority to me.

here i go again: KIDS thats the major problem, egoistical KIDS. As long as i have fun it's ok, what the rest thinks, i don't give a damn. WOW, nice attitude. This might explain why the server will be deserted in a couple of months. Already loads of ppl left cause of this type of behaviour.



WHAT SHOULD ONE DO ON PVP: according to my point of vieuw

LVL, JOIN GUILD; BUT DO NOT KILL OTHER PPL WITHOUT A REASON
WHY CAN WE DO IT THEN???
WELL: U can join a guild level, and be protected; guildmanagers can declare war on other guilds or put a bounty on once head for killing a member. USE THE PVP sytem to fight guild wars, meet at the centre of the plains, 50 vs 50 and fight it out, subdue ur enemies.
USE PVP to act accordingly, IRL u can smack everyone , DO U DO IT????NO!!!!! WHY??? CAUSE U GET PENALIZED!!!
SO to all PK'ing morans out there that kill unguilded ppl without a reason: I'm not on the wrong server U GUYS ARE!!!!
U pk'ers should be on the counterstrike server or quacke server, NOT on PVP RPG server.


THIS is a mag to GOA and MYTHIC, altho u lock ppl 's account for their type of behaviour, create a system that ppl understand, u know KIDS play, so create a server for KIDS, CREATE a PK server, leave all mobs out of the game and let those kids kill each other until they get bored, instead of making other ppl that wanne have fun leave this ONE server.

PVP is FUN but KIDS ruin it!!!!!!!!!

Im sorry, but it seems like its you thats on the wrong server.
The kind of fighting you are talking about sounds like the rvr-server fighting.

Maybe pvp isnt such a good idea for you?
Not trying to be rude, but you do seem like a rvr player tired of pvp

 

[ironheart]

SURE

sure, how can the guildmaster of PK guild nr1 say i'm right ;-)

no hard feelings, but , for all high level, guilded ppl this may seem fun, but for unguilded solo palying ppl THIS is unplayable.

ok , now u will say, find a guild, get levelled, PL even, and kill all others ,
Not my style, if i would be running a guild reports of useless PK'ing would have kick from guild result. When a war has been declared against eg: Nobly pride, they may even kill grey cons, but no useless killing.

sorry my point of vieuw, could be ur right, dunno
thxx for ur point of vieuw

 

[Arrows]

useless pking ..?
xp killing and money killing isnt useless ...
killing no rewarders and greys and camping spawn points ... class a micro willy syndrome you ask me

 

[Relin]

If you read thge right up on pvp server it was designed with players leveling off player kills.

 

[Venemous]

...

Some guilds are evil pk guilds.. some are neutral, some are peace keepers its what the servers all about.........

 

[ironheart]

wrong

Originally posted by Relin
If you read thge right up on pvp server it was designed with players leveling off player kills.

and results in a server that will be ininhabited in a couple of weeks, months, cause no one wil have cash to restore, and no enemies will be on the server anymore. Good on ya, Long live PK'ers, they hunt ppl away

how many ppl still play on US server? pvp that is?

 

[Relin]

Originally posted by Arrows
useless pking ..?
xp killing and money killing isnt useless ...
killing no rewarders and greys and camping spawn points ... class a micro willy syndrome you ask me

killing for money is pointless as you can make far more crafting or mob hunting, and might even makr a friend while you do this

 

[Relin]

Re: wrong

Originally posted by ironheart



and results in a server that will be ininhabited in a couple of weeks, months, cause no one wil have cash to restore, and no enemies will be on the server anymore. Good on ya, Long live PK'ers, they hunt ppl away

how many ppl still play on US server? pvp that is?

This isnt the US, We Euro's seem to enjoy killing each other far more.

I do see your point tho. From level 10 till about 15 or so i spent a few days solo, Soloing doesnt work on pvp unless you are pking.

You need to group or you are an easy target Solo. Even grouped you will still get pk'ed the odd time but this will happen far less.


Unlike a few other i do not think we should be saying to people to go back to there own server, keep with it it does get easier

 

[Arrows]

hmm your contradicting yourself here relin ....
you saying in my other post that people are free to mobxp if they want etc and here you the server is a pvp one built leveling of pk kills.

and imo mob hunting for moneys is not a good way to get money
mob killing takes ages sellings drops etc and gets good only at higher levels and every crafter will tell you money is not summit they make its summit they desperatly need ...

 

[Relin]

nope not contradicting myself

People are Free to mobexp
And the server was designed to level on pvp


The point is you have a choice you dont need to do either or can do both (imho most people do both).

As for the coin, well with mob coin you have a steady flow of ok coin and the odd nice item

with pk you get the nice coin, a new enemy and if your unlucky enough to no exp kill me a bit of a moan 2 .

I know which i prefer

 

[commie]

NP kills ALL members of enemy guilds.
We do not kill unguilded greys etc.
Or no, we kill LOTS of unguilded greys of many reasons. BUT, we dont do it all the time. (sure someone is going to whine about this but..).

Lots of "innocents" get killed by mistake etc. But still we dont wipe em all the time. Like we do against our enemies. Thats how we play. And whining has no point, this is the pvp server. ppl are ppl, thats how its done.

 

[K0nah]

P v P

u get xp for killing other players for a reason. if they didnt WANT u to kill other players u wouldnt get any xp ffs.

kill or BE KILLED.

 

[lakih]

I agree with Ironheart.
Random PK, massive powerleveling, zergs and camping bindstones will be the death of any PvP server... Euros isnt any better than the US at that point.
(As an example, ive shared the same spawn as a fellow chanter, he was lvl 9, i was lvl 11, waiting for a questmob to spawn. I saw him ding 10 (turned yellow) said gratz and got a stun/dd/dd/dd as thx... ).

 

[inuyasha]

Lol

I don't bother to go around quoting, so i might miss quote =)

To the first post:....lol, you ARE on the wrong server =) I am one of this "unguilded" people for one reason only: im no ones prime target, and i can kill anybody. This guild war thing of which you speak is nice enough, but why in the aaaages do you want to play on a pvp server if your going to be in a anti-pk guild? You are SUPPOSED to kill people around your level worth reward, and they have made "some" hints for you to understand that: You get xp/rp/bps/cash for killing people, and you will get quite broke if you do not hit back in the long run.

To the one saying its no point killing for cash/xp case hunting/crafting is more effective:
1. nope, it aint
2. killing people is more fun.
3. its sorta why the server is there =)

Last point: WHY!!! do you all speak of the US version????
The US version is at least 11 times worse then the one we have!
I have played for months there, people DID spend more time getting 50 there, but fast leveling is hardly a problem. However, the US pvp server is more unbalanced, MUCH less helpfull and up to every second person is a grey-killer.... Nolby pride is not to compare at all! Besides, beeing a full pk guild, nobly is now "kos" to most guilds on camlann and have to pay for it, meaning its not accepted on our server. We share cash/items/help with people, careless if they are in our guild or not, and we help people if they have problems. We do not log on our 20 levels above chars unless we really have to, and serial pk is more of a rare happening. The US server was TERRIBLE! Plez do not speak another word in the means of us mengling with them. After i was grey killed, and i counted, 54 times in one day, i started to implore all grey killers for an answer......the next day 20/30 people simply replied: Im just a straigh asshole, so shut the f''k up whiner!....

I finish it off with: I belive the greatest danger for the pvp server today is that there are SO many french and sometimes german people that does not understand a word of what we are telling them, and to make sure people notice, they use it in the broadcasts all around the server..... I have several times been attacked by french people in the most redicilius ways, and cept for 1 NB, all grey killers i have met on camlann yet is french. PLEZ goa, here is MY cry to you...Pliiiiz make a french pvp server! i just cant stand it! =)

Point 43,5 enchanter exalibur.
Inuyasha: 42 hero exalibur.
Pointexal: 9 enchanter camlann
Infiltractor: 9 infil camlann
Goldragon: 29 theurgist US pvp
Instantkiller: 27 minstrel US pvp

 

[^MisterJingo^]

Quick, everyone, kill all frenchies! (in game of course )

 

[old.FIN]

Shame Ironheart didnt like PvP , because i would rape his ass 24/7 =)

he aint in my top 10 favourite guys =)

 

[Sharp Thing]

i said it before and il say it again
iron= twat

 

[ironheart]

SO it is

well i'm glad to see some ppl do agree.

according to me pvp has been created to be able to kill ppl, sure it is, but why go and kill someone who u even haven't had a word with. In game that is. U see someone pulling mob from som spot and u attack him while doing that!!!
Now the real problem is that most PK'ers are to cowardly to confront someone first and then challenge em. NO they have to take someone that is defenceless, weak vurnerable at some point. Easy prey, easy xp.
AND KIDS RUIN IT

, one addition to a quote of finn, i'm still there, trying to give it me best shot, but i don't go PK'ing. I have no need to kill innocent ppl to my benefit. This is a mear reflection of my IRL character i think, hehe.

BTW sharp thing, u call me a twat. I wonder if u even have an idea on what the word means. As i have heard ur an undereducated, idiot type of person that like to call other ppl names. No offence here, but i have to agree on these ppl's oppinion, as u seem to be the founder of FL, ROFL, most of em laugh at u. So have fun and have a life. get urselfe a nice porche maybee u'll score better irl.

So we'll have a look in a couple of weeks, months, when most lvl 50 characters wont have any descnet enemies to kill without a good reason. The elite will remain on that server (omg). They even will have succeeded in keeping ppl that DO understand the use of a given system like pvp, away from a server that creates this oppertunity. I don't mind, i just feel sorry for that type of behaviour. Peeps have fun and maybe u'll be pk'ing me in a few minuts. Enjoie it but think about it. LOL, omg i just killed an innocent person!!!! He did not intend to hurt me even!!!

greetz

 

[^MisterJingo^]

One thing i've noticed a lot of is I see a yellow <-> red con running past me with noone else around. I attack and kill them (champs are great ) then they send a barrage of tells about what a ****** I am etc. Seems people moan equally when ganked and when killed one on one with people at the same or lower level. A lot of people have a very misguided view of pvp....

 

[old.Tijl]

Quote Relin: Soloing doesnt work on pvp unless you are pking.

Isnt mate, lvl 30 so far, solo, and no pk'ing, i lvl about 2-3 lvls / day so far, i try solo till 40, perhaps even higher.

If you know a realm well, you know where its deserted, where its deserted, you dont find pk's easily, most ppl you'll find are just lvling solo themselves with no need to pk.

For the useless killing, its not done a lot as far as i know, and when i get attacked by a green-red, i charge in, have somewhat the highest bloodpressure ever, die and tell its been a great fight. Some guy i've met asked me if i wanted a duel, i just picked a task, so i refused friendly. Few hours later, we had that duel.

If you have a less kind pvp moment... just go on, some ppl will always be bastards, there choice your choice is, ignore, go on, who cares, you chose for pvp anyway, its fun.

Try dialbo 2 hardcore if you wana know what really hurts... death = no release but delete. pvp is more exciting then d2 hc, but much less painfull.

 

[Sharp Thing]

Re: SO it is

Originally posted by ironheart


BTW sharp thing, u call me a twat. I wonder if u even have an idea on what the word means. As i have heard ur an undereducated, idiot type of person that like to call other ppl names. No offence here, but i have to agree on these ppl's oppinion, as u seem to be the founder of FL, ROFL, most of em laugh at u. So have fun and have a life. get urselfe a nice porche maybee u'll score better irl.

wait a minute, isnt that the guild you tried to reform into your own "dream" and even demanded rank 0 and when you didnt got it you started flaming ppl and calling them names

*shock*




uke:

 

[drunkard]

Originally posted by commie
NP kills ALL members of enemy guilds.
We do not kill unguilded greys etc.
Or no, we kill LOTS of unguilded greys of many reasons. BUT, we dont do it all the time. (sure someone is going to whine about this but..).

Not a whine, but NP do randomly go around killing anyone they see, guilded unguilded, grey or not. They walk into dungeons and pbaoe everyone in there just for the 'I pwn j00 of it'.

Fair enough though this is a pvp server and people can do what they like, however childish and unsportsmanly it may be, mythic put no pk punishment system for grey ganking in the game. There will always be people who take pleasure in smashing up loads of greys, it's a natural human way of dealing with insecurity, you feel vunarable so you pick on people who are much much weaker than you.

I find this happens less and less as you get to higher levels though, the pvp tends to be mainly guild vs guild, or an argument gets out of hand and a fight kicks off which makes for an excellent pvp game.

 

[ironheart]

RIGHT

This are words from an person that seems to be sober, hehe


thx for ur oppinion, i think ur right. But who are we, most Pk'ers think they are right, and it may be true that as level augments PK'ing decreases, but i doubt it.

Although we may get the msg out there to get english speaking (understanding) ppl to share this point of vieuw, we'll still have loads of probs with those idiotic French and spanish ppl. They tend to be totally ignorant when it comes to communications. I may have an advantage that i do comprehend , french, spanish, german, english, but THEY don't nor do they care. ( MOST of em)

And i have to agree on drunkard his point of vieuw when it comes to fights and interguild wars etc.... THAT WOULD BE THE BEAUTY OF THIS SYSTEM

 

[old.Odysseus]

its pvp, get over it.
I PK anything in sight, maybe except greys cuz I cant be arsed.