Fps results on all ya computers

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old.frankie

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Ok, here goes, all i want is all your results for you computer.
give the exact spec of oyur comp.
try and do it this way.
q2 demo1 in different resolutions.
q3 demo1 in different resolutions
tribes avrg fps in an online game.
UT avrg fps results aganst 4 bots on dm morpheus.

At the mo i need to get a new cpu and mobo and it will prob be p3 450, i already have a tnt2 u, in me amd k6-2 450, but whenever i go into 3d mode useing the card, after about 2 mins of action, it just dies, either restarts, or just goes blank. It aint heat, but i think its the card trying to pull too much juice outa the ss7 shitty mobo.
Also it would be nice to know about UT and tribes useing a tnt2 U, caus i have a theory. The reason they run slow on a tnt2, is because due to the game been built around 3dfx glide engine calls, they need to be reinterpreted into either direct 3d calls, for UT, or opengl calls in the case of tribes. This would require a lot of cpu time to do this, and people with tnt's in shitty cpu machines always get crappy fps compared to a 3dfx system with same cpu. A faster cpu should be enough make it go faster. I just want to know weather a p3 450 would be fast enough to do all this reinterpreting of calls, without having a shitty frame rate, if it isnt fast enough, ill just have to get a v3.
Thats why i need ya help peep, cheers.
happy benchmarking.

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old.TUG

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Im on me C300a at 464/BH6/128megz/V3 3000 at the mo...

results for demo1 in q2 (its all ive got installed)

640*480 = 120fps
800*600 = 100fps
1024*768 = 75fps
1280*1024 = 55ish

C300a at 464 is about as fast as a PIII 450... personally, id go with a celeron 366@550 from www.clockspeed.co.uk
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old.rockhard

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Hmmm? Celeron?
I reckon u better off with a P3450 @ 600 myself?
Celery ok right now, but from here on most new games are gonna support SSE yeah?, so you'll get better performance with P3 600?

Tug
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I currently have a Celeron myself and have now ordered a P3 450 @ 600.
I would have liked to have bought it from www.clockspeed.co.uk but when ya go to the site theres nothing under the slot 1 heading?
So i had to order it from the states. Clockspeed could have had my order but missed the boat so to speak!

I'm not havin a go at ya, its just that i get so frustrated at the lack of availability in this country for overclockers.

I even had to order my alpha from the states!

Please, please can clockspeed increase their range of products. If they do they'll get my custom every time.

Good luck and regards,

Rockhard
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old.TUG

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hehe nice one rockhard
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I intend to extend the range in the future but lack of finance is the main player here...

We'll see about SSE implementation in the future... I mean look at 3D NOW! - nice concept but has it really played a great affect yet overall with all the software that uses it?? I dont think it has...

Good point about the lack of OCing stuff in the UK... but importing it aint cheap and thats a main reason... plus US tax's are too low IMO = specially compared to what we have to fork out
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Ive got a C366@578 too and thats far from slow... But, im moving into overclocked athlon territory soon - 500's @ 700 may be on clockspeed's site soon
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old.Mikey

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Rockhard

Where did ya order it from in the US then?

Cause I too am look at the P3 450 @ 600 option.


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old.rockhard

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Cheers Tug,

Maybe Tug might be able to help with P3 450@600 if ya ask him nicely!
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If he cant then ya goin to have to wait about three weeks for ya CPU as mail from Europe to US is sooo slow!
My cheque to US took 12 days to get there!
Anyways my P3@600 will be here at the back end of the week
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Should keep me goin till the 750BE's come out. Then me fancy goin for a 1ghz+!!! yeeah!
P3 750 (100mhz .18 micron) @ 138fsb + peltier + Alpha may = 1035mhz WHOOP!
Cant wait
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Regards,

Rockhard
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Tug: Maybe you could look at the possibility of doin these as pretested in the near future? If so yu can take my custom for granted for one!
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Cyas
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old.TUG

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As soon as finance allows me to expand, expand i will!!!

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old.frankie

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at last i have my p3 sys
it is
jetway j-7bxan
and a p3 450
the mobo allows u to have the bus at 112/33
which is soo cool
i have it running at 504, stable, i got it to 600, no joke, 600, stable in windows, although it crashed in UT, which is the 44 mhz bus.

heres fps results

q3 demo1 - 640 x 480 = 65.1
"""" - 088 x 600 = 63.9
"""" - 1024 x768 = 53.9


UT with 5 bots on dm-turbine

640 x 480 = 72
800 x 600 = 65
1024 x 768 = 63

on medium skins, medium world, and all other settings on defaults
done running around like a mad man, not standing at a wall.
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q2
q2 demo 1
800 x 600 = 95
1024 x 768 = 70

crusher

800 x 600 =50
1024 x 768 =46

Q2 done using blank config files.


anyway, p3's are cool for overclocking.
have fun

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old.TUG

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doesnt sound very fast for the money then does it m8...

And buy a cooler from me
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and i kinda doubt your 112MHz FSB is truly using a 33MHz PCI speed as the intel BX chipset will NOT allow this as far as i know..
 
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old.TUG

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send me a URL to your mobo and i'll download the manual.

>>is there a proggy that tells u the pci bus speed ?

Yea sisoft sandra, ill send it later on.

>>neway, its fast enough for me, seeming that a p3 500 can beat a celly 600, in 3d fpu, with the tnt2 drivers, due to the fact of sse instructions in them.

No it cant you plum. Get me concrete benchmarks to prove it and 3dmark 99 etc doesnt count... Use stuff like quake2, 3, UT etc... REAL gaming environments, not biased benchmark proggies m8.
 
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old.frankie

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mine does, ill copy the manual and send it to ya, shame u cant take scrn shots of the bios
is there a proggy that tells u the pci bus speed ?
neway, its fast enough for me, seeming that a p3 500 can beat a celly 600, in 3d fpu, with the tnt2 drivers, due to the fact of sse instructions in them.


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old.TUG

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Told u i was right m8 - my 300a at 504 compared to your 450 PIII at 504 is faster so that just goes to show u dont need to pay for performance.
 
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old.frankie

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ill make this symple
u have a v3 whilst i have a tnt2
v3 has higher fill rate at lower res's, so thatll make a bit of difference, due to the different syncing of the two different cards.

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old.TUG

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Give me a list of fillrate comparisons between V3 3000 and TNT2 ultra then we'll see...

My policy still lies though, I got a better mobo and cpu than u did in terms of price...
 
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old.TUG

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Texel Fill Rates of 3Dfx Interactive Based Products

Voodoo3 - 3500 366Mtexels/s
Voodoo3 - 3000 333Mtexels/s
Voodoo3 - 2000 286Mtexels/s
Voodoo2 SLI 360Mtexels/s
Voodoo2 180Mtexels/s
Banshee 100Mtexels/s

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Creative UTNT2

Peak fill rate of 300 million bilinear filtered, multi-textured pixels per second.

Now i think the figures we are comparing are of the same kind if you know what I mean.. So then, my card churns out 333MTexels - 33 more than yours... what if i lower my clockspeed on V3 to match the same output as yours? I kinda think mine would still win dont you?

Anyway, this is a bit boring... you've brought the stuff now, but maybe you should have listened to others advice to save some money..

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old.frankie

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wernt me that bought it
see, i didnt pay, and, as i didnt pay, i went for the quality stuff.
as soon as games start to take advantage of the instructions on them, then well see how good the p3's are.


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old.TUG

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Quality stuff? Jetway?!

By the time SSE is used ill have an 800MHz athlon ffs
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old.TUG

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wot 'appens if yooz alredddy been there and done dat?

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