For those saying runies nuke hard :D

[Dumle]

Wizzies aint half bad either

Pretty decent crits there eh?

Bah, dont know how to make it a picture so a link will have to do, hehe

 

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[Cami]

cant see it either :<

 

[Dumle]

GRRRRR!!

How do I post a picture, dont have anywhere to upload atm

 

[Spirou]

Manage attachments button, scroll down when hitting POST.
These pictars and stuff go onto the FH server tho, so don't make it too big ;O

 

[Dumle]

NM, found my old passes for site

 

[haarewin]

ouch

 

[Zebolt]

Nice crits :>

 

[Chimaira]

thats bolt or critted DD´s ?

 

[Falukropp]

Yep, it's definitely crits. High ones too. Wizzys nukes exactly as hard as rm:s, if you don't count the fact that albs got a high acuity race form the beginning. Not a lot of high rr frostalf rm:s around. But that's just a marginal difference.

With all power relics, 9% unrestricted dmg, 10% res pierce, MoM3 (pre NF) I usually nuked for ~700 without crits.

 

[Shadeyhodds]

Not uncommon to break 1k damage now on bolts / DDs nowadays. I went WP 4 so crit bolts are quite common. Without crits im bolting casters / assasins for 800 - 1000 depending on resists so even a small crit will tip it over the 1k mark.

 

[willowywicca]

Not uncommon to break 1k damage now on bolts / DDs nowadays. I went WP 4 so crit bolts are quite common. Without crits im bolting casters / assasins for 800 - 1000 depending on resists so even a small crit will tip it over the 1k mark.

He one shotted me in a duel :<

 

[sedde]

He one shotted me in a duel :<

Bad pethiel :touch:

 

[Dumle]

Not uncommon to break 1k damage now on bolts / DDs nowadays. I went WP 4 so crit bolts are quite common. Without crits im bolting casters / assasins for 800 - 1000 depending on resists so even a small crit will tip it over the 1k mark.

Those arent bolts tho, its DDs and very nice crits too

But that damage is expected when you have relics, same damage as a runie would deliver under the same circumstances.

 

[Animus]

Those arent bolts tho, its DDs and very nice crits too

But that damage is expected when you have relics, same damage as a runie would deliver under the same circumstances.

How can you tell?
He does have 2 bolts.

 

[Graendel]

2 bolts, yes - but I'd be surprised to get that dmg out of a base bolt.

 

[Dumle]

How can you tell?
He does have 2 bolts.

Because...
A. There is no way in hell he would do that kind of damage on a shieldtank with bolts.
B. I was facing him and didnt see any bolts, I did however see the cute pillar of fire that signifies a wizard nuking me

 

[Sycho]

Darkness runie/fire wiz can nuke that hard considering if their master of magery is lv3 or above with relics, what's your heat resist dumle? hardest i have nuked someone is 1176(was with body sorc though) so it's very possible with relics since you can hit cap easier and now with even higher acuity available it will not be hard at all for avalonians/frostalfs.I am guessing that damage is using a body sorc too.

 

[charmangle]

Well that still is in the lower range of what the firewizzes hit for...

Fully buffed capped resists + af buffs etc up I still managed to get hit for 1672 the other day (without crit). (And not unusal to get hit for 1000-1400)
per bolt. Personally I would say an hard cap on all damage dealt per time should be 800. Any game with instakill hits is just...jeeeezzz...

/Charmanlge

 

[Sycho]

It's impossible to get hit for 1672 damage without crit since spec bolt caps 1303 with mom 5 and traldor charge.You know fire wizards face huge resists vs high rr mid fgs usually so bolts is the best damage towards those but still the nukes hit fairly hard on 50% heat resists if you have 10% piercing(i got 5% fuck knows why, need lv10 cs xE)

Charmanlge, there's loads of things in daoc that can do tons of damage but they do not happen all the time though i agree there certainly should be a hard cap on these things but remember a runecarving runie who also has two energy bolts and debuff nukes shouldn't hit too bad either.(providing they have 24+11 darkness and around 320-340 piety)

 

[Dumle]

what's your heat resist dumle?

This is my thane in drop armor, so its 8% hehe

Still, good hits 2 almost cap(?) crits in a row

 

[TiwiS]

oneshotting casters is quite common atm though, certainly if you're a bit lucky on crits

 

[Zebolt]

2 bolts, yes - but I'd be surprised to get that dmg out of a base bolt.

I only have baseline bolts and I've done over 1k dmg with it several times. Has happened without crit too ^^

 

[Gelid]

Well, I expect that was because the target didn't have their AF shield up. I have 63 in fire and even fully buffed only hit for 1000+, without a crit, when I'm targetting poorly sc'ed players; either that or they aren't level 50. Hits of 1000+ vs decent rr players are rare without crits, at least that's how it seems at my end of the game

 

[Hansmoleman]

wizards need to hurt cus of low utility but 1000 is insane

 

[Gotrag]

OUCH! but a friend of mine on alb/excal hits for that aswell he recently dinged RR 10 aswell very kool guy.... nice dmg who ever tha was

 

[Zebolt]

Hits of 1000+ vs decent rr players are rare without crits, at least that's how it seems at my end of the game

Dumle is a rr-lowbie tho

 

[TiwiS]

a caster who forgot to rebuff his self af is jummie though

 

[Dumle]

Dumle is a rr-lowbie tho

Lower than you think, it was my RR2 thane he hit hehe

 

[charmangle]

Crit or no crit thats the question...

It's impossible to get hit for 1672 damage without crit since spec bolt caps 1303 with mom 5 and traldor charge.You know fire wizards face huge resists vs high rr mid fgs usually so bolts is the best damage towards those but still the nukes hit fairly hard on 50% heat resists if you have 10% piercing(i got 5% fuck knows why, need lv10 cs xE)

Charmanlge, there's loads of things in daoc that can do tons of damage but they do not happen all the time though i agree there certainly should be a hard cap on these things but remember a runecarving runie who also has two energy bolts and debuff nukes shouldn't hit too bad either.(providing they have 24+11 darkness and around 320-340 piety)

Well in the hitline no crit was shown just the text:
Alaron hits you from 1672 damage.
You die.

exactly like this:

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=43757

If there is a crit there its just not shown to me...but that is quite irrelevant to my point...in my opinion all damage hard cap should be max 800 damage. (If you are facing capped resists anyway) its an easy code:
if(damage > 800) { damage = 800; return damage; }

Toa adds, rr adds, etc are irrelevant and subordinate to this hard cap. No reason for seers if its supposed to be a oneshot game.

/charmangle