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Tom

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When I first began playing cs, hardly anyone used flashbangs. Now it seems with the proliferation of script buying that everyone has flashbangs.

Not that I mind, its their money, but I do wish they wouldn't throw the fecking things from behind me, over my head, and directly in front of where I'm running.

Dust is a prime example. As a ct, running for the first doorway slightly to the right, to blast fire into any terrorists that might be running there. I nearly always get blinded by some guy with a flashbang, who, seeing me running in that direction, thinks I might appreciate some sensory deprivation, and proceeds to throw his grenade, blinding me (and killing me usually).

If HE grenades damage the person that throws them and no other member of his team, then why is it deemed necessary for flashbangs to blind everyone?

I think attention should be paid to this problem, maybe flashbangs could be made a lot more expensive, say 500 dollars, instead of 200 dollars. After all, not many people buy smoke, although its very useful, although I suspect many people just have shite computers, and can't handle the reduction in fps.

Maybe we could consider changing the way scores are handled in cs, I would like assisted kills to appear, or map objectives, but blinding teammates and other poor moves should be a penalty issue, like teamkilling (although I think the sit-a-round-out solution doesn't work).

What do you lot think?
 
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S-Gray

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Aye.. flashbangs can be a fecker, yesterday playin on Italy, some prick on our team kept throwin Flashbangs at the start of each round (Threw 2) now this fucked our team up, coz each time the bastard Terrorist where storming, and thus, we where fucked coz we where either partially blind, or we lost what we where supposed to do.

And it always seems like my fuckin Flashbangs never work.. :/ tho they work 99% of the time on me..

Strange strange things..
 
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Skyler

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Smoke isnt that useful unless you use it with a teammate and throw 2 on each other..

I can see through it pretty much.

As for FB's it happens to us all, changing the prices is stupid :p
 
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throdgrain

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Some people just seem to have an uncontrolable urge to throw a fb or a smoke grenade immediately the first 5 seconds is up. I have NO idea why ...
 
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Will

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Flashbangs...

How else do you get into the garage on Assault?
 
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old.D0LLySh33p

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Flashbangs are part of the game. They're cheap as they're so dang unpredictable. Sometimes they blind you for ages, sometimes they don't even affect you. It's about 50% for me with flashes. Sometimes they will affect me and I'll run around like a headless chicken... sometimes I see the puff of smoke but not be blind at all.

Always will be silly peeps out there who throw fb's in front of you, or 'on' you. They don't care if you get blinded, as long as they've 'done' their 'bit'.

As for smokes, they can help if you're against peeps with lower end pcs. The amount of times I've put a smoke down in a camping spot and waited for someone to come round the corridor. Of course they can prolly see me, but they takes ages to fire, and normally inaccurately :)
 
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Moön

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I never buy them any more cos I always have good intensions but end up throwing it and hitting a wall so it bounces back and blinds my whole team leaving us to get slaughtered and then everyone gives me a rollocking :D
 
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throdgrain

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:) I reckon they work 1 time in 10 for me too :rolleyes:
 
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Stazbumpa

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True, dickheads tend to enjoy flashing everyone at the start of a round, what annoys me more is peeps that run in front of me when I've got my arm cocked back ready to lob one and then THEY complain.
They were behind me, they even saw me with a grenade of some sort and my script even says "Watch out, FB"


Sometimes I get the flash but no blindness from an enemy FB, but it depends where it lands (Half Life has dodgy FB effect coding).
 
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S-Gray

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Some people just seem to have an uncontrolable urge to throw a fb or a smoke grenade immediately the first 5 seconds is up. I have NO idea why ...

Lol i do this :D, altho, i tend to do it on italy, i buy one, and lob it so it *tries* to hit the Wall and bounce into the Market, plus, i use em as target practice, to improve my throw :p sod knpows why... lol
 
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S-Gray

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Also i read up somewhere on a guide, that Flashbangs only work at a certain distance, thats why you see the little light and puff of smoke.

If you turn your back against the flashbang so your not directly lookin it at, i found that it doesnt blind you totally, you can still see your enemy, thus kill 'im
 
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old.D0LLySh33p

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Originally posted by Super_Gray
Also i read up somewhere on a guide, that Flashbangs only work at a certain distance, thats why you see the little light and puff of smoke.

If you turn your back against the flashbang so your not directly lookin it at, i found that it doesnt blind you totally, you can still see your enemy, thus kill 'im

Heh, turn your back on one? I never would have guessed Super ;)
 
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Insane

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i remember when Flashbangs caused damage compared to how close you were to it.

flashbang deaths made you laugh so hard at times :)

never seen flashbangs being used effectively, because you always get those "gung-ho" rambo players who rush in through the middle of an assault and gets nailed because he didnt read the "Throwing Flashbang, watch yourself" message...

mind its always fun hearing his abuse the next round :D
 
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S-Gray

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Anyone chucked a nade at the turkeys in the Market on Italy?
 
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S-Gray

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I never buy them any more cos I always have good intensions but end up throwing it and hitting a wall so it bounces back and blinds my whole team leaving us to get slaughtered and then everyone gives me a rollocking

I never run and throw flashbangs sideways, my luck is i always seem to hit some object the damn damn thing flies back and blinds me totally lol
 
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Insane

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worst has to be those times you go to chuck it in somewhere and a fuckwit of a teammate walks right in front of you...
it somehow manages to bounce directly off his head, go up in the air and blind everybody in your team, except HIM!

why not remove it entirely and add a cattle prod for pushing those shites out of the way during a game!
 
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S-Gray

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that works best with HE Grenades :D, and you have like 30hp :D
 
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old.D0LLySh33p

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FB's used to go 1-5 hit point damage.

Heh, you used to be able to nade jump with them too :)
 
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Tom

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Originally posted by Ch3tan
Flashes are great, why change the price.

To encourage more conservative use of them.

I find smoke grenades a more useful tool, especially on maps like italy or dust, where sniper alley can be ruined by a well placed smoke grenade.

While I'm at it, why do ppl insist on shouting 'fire in the hold' when ff is off, or they r the only one left! And WTF is 'hostage down' all about? How the hell can a ct miles away tell if a hostage has been shot!
 
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S-Gray

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I remember seein the *changes in 1.3* thing when it first came out, it said somethin like *Legshots now non fatal* <-- i know im wrong somewhere along the lines

ut today i was on Assault, usin a Glock coz i was a poor bastard, i started shootin at someone, hit him with about 10 fuckin bullets and i *ONLY* knocked 8hp off him :eek6:

i never knew ut was THAT shit
 
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Ch3tan

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Originally posted by tomjeffs


To encourage more conservative use of them.

I find smoke grenades a more useful tool, especially on maps like italy or dust, where sniper alley can be ruined by a well placed smoke grenade.

While I'm at it, why do ppl insist on shouting 'fire in the hold' when ff is off, or they r the only one left! And WTF is 'hostage down' all about? How the hell can a ct miles away tell if a hostage has been shot!

Because both thoose phrases are automatic and you have no control over them maybe? Your entire argument for flashes is based on poor public play. It doesnt stand the same for clan matches or even servers were the level of intelligence is higher than stupid.
 
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old.Mr Crapini

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I luv FBs, and take great pleasure in flying round a corner and taking out 2 or 3 completely blind ppl also they are most usefull in a tactical retreat situation. Infact come to think of it I always carry one in the first round if I'm Ts. :)
 
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old.D0LLySh33p

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Fear the Fb as it bounces off someone's head and blinds you and your whole team by mistake.
 
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e_chrono

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one of me m8's knows some console command that gives him free SG's somehow (only on some servers) and he once kept buyin em and throwing them constantly (out the back of the house on militia) and he threw so many that all the smoke n'shite crashed the server.

Made me chuckle...

I hate those wanks who throw FB's at their feet at the start of the round, need shootin.
Mind you, the entire team except him usally lets him run off on his own to his timely death...

muahaha :D
 

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