FAO Tilda and any other law types!

[Laddey]

What is this classed as, out of curiosity.

Homeless, and you went to a big derelict council office building thing (it was old and unused) and you put your hand through a BROKEN window to open the door then the alarm went off, and you ran away?

Burglery, trespassing?

ty!

 

[BloodOmen]

What is this classed as, out of curiosity.

Homeless, and you went to a big derelict council office building thing (it was old and unused) and you put your hand through a BROKEN window to open the door then the alarm went off, and you ran away?

Burglery, trespassing?

ty!

Don't have that much insight into the law but i'd say Trespassing, can't really call it burglery or breaking and entering as the window was already broken so the door could be opened.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Don't have that much insight into the law but i'd say Trespassing, can't really call it burglery or breaking and entering as the window was already broken so the door could be opened.

Wasn't even entering really.

One could get a, hmm, "public disturbance" from the alarm, but you didn't install it.

"Fleeing the scene of opening?"

Oh yeah:

I went to a big derelict council office building thing (it was old and unused) and i put my hand through a BROKEN window to open the door then the alarm went off, and i ran away?

Fixed that for ya

 

[Laddey]

Also can you burgle an empty house?

Let's say Mr X did enter the house which trippd the alarm

 

[BloodOmen]

I still don't see how its burglery unless you've actually taken something from the property

 

[Aoami]

Tresspass with the intent to break and enter.

 

[Mey]

Tresspass with the intent to break and enter.

Thats bollocks, there was no breaking and entering.

The most you would probably get is Tresspassing and even then that's only a civil offence.

 

[Laddey]

Thats bollocks, there was no breaking and entering.

He said intent you flame whore!

The most you would probably get is Tresspassing and even then that's only a civil offence.

The most you would, i never said i done it ! Hypothetical question

 

[tris-]

why would you run away if you didnt do anything wrong?

either way it aint your building, so it wil be illegal in some way

 

[Laddey]

why would you run away if you didnt do anything wrong?

either way it aint your building, so it wil be illegal in some way

Well, if it was me and i was in the middle of a big forest and a loud alarm went off in the middle of the night i'd shit my knickers and run like shit off a shovel.

 

[Bahumat]

Well, if it was me and i was in the middle of a big forest and a loud alarm went off in the middle of the night i'd shit my knickers and run like shit off a shovel.

Why are you wearing Meggeys knickers?

 

[Mey]

Ok then there was no INTENT to "Break" only enter.. AKA trespassing.. Which is a civil offence.

 

[chipper]

if u didnt get caught and aint had bobbies knockin round ya door dont worry bout it

 

[old.Tohtori]

if u didnt get caught and aint had bobbies knockin round ya door dont worry bout it

Hell i've been worrying, for a month or two now, that i've done something stupid drunk and soon get locked up

But, lukcily i realised that if i could've done something like rob a jewelry store, in the middle of a city, in THAT state that i dont remember, i'd be A: Helluva good robber/anything and B: Helluva stupoid for not keeping the lootz

 

[Huntingtons]

just like Chakie Chan in Drunken Master!
In the end you realize you can fight without drinking and you fail big time so you need to get drunk again!*

*may or may not be made up because of missing information of ending due to bad memory or other undecided factors

 

[Laddey]

if u didnt get caught and aint had bobbies knockin round ya door dont worry bout it

It wasn't for me

And it WAS burg, for some weird reason.

 

[Aoami]

Ok then there was no INTENT to "Break" only enter.. AKA trespassing.. Which is a civil offence.

Yeah, but it would still be breaking and entering. Evn if you're not breaking anything, it's just what it's called.

 

[Mey]

There is no breaking and entering though, he has only tresspassed it is only breaking and entering when it is you who has infact caused the damage to gain entry, if the damage is already there it is only Trespassing.

How do you think all the people who do Urban Exploration get away with it!

 

[Aoami]

at the end of the day it would never get to court so it doesn't matter

 

[Mey]

Burglary is defined by section 9 of the Theft Act 1968 which created two variants:
“ A person is guilty of burglary if he enters any building or part of a building as a trespasser with intent to steal, inflict grievous bodily harm [or raping any person therein][4], or do unlawful damage to the building or anything in it.(section 9(1)(a)) ”
“ A person is guilty of burglary if, having entered a building or part of a building as a trespasser, he steals or attempts to steal anything in the building, or inflicts or attempts to inflict grievous bodily harm on any person in the building.(section 9(1)(b))

The common law definition of burglary was described by Sir Matthew Hale as
“ The breaking and entering the house of another in the night time, with intent to commit a felony therein, whether the felony be actually committed or not.[1][2][3] ”

1. Breaking- this could be either actual, such as by forcing a door, or constructive, such as by fraud or threats[1]
2. Entering- this can encompass either physical entry by a person or the insertion of some implement with which to remove property, but not one solely used for gaining entry[1]
3. House- this included a temporarily unoccupied dwelling but not a building only occasionally used as a habitation[1]
4. Night time- defined as being between half an hour before sunset and half an hour after sunrise[1]
5. Intent- most serious offences were classed as felony when this definition was prevalent, and included larceny, an alternative name for theft.[1]

 

[Mey]

at the end of the day it would never get to court so it doesn't matter

hehe too true, but it beats revision lol xD

 

[Aoami]

There is no breaking and entering though, he has only tresspassed it is only breaking and entering when it is you who has infact caused the damage to gain entry, if the damage is already there it is only Trespassing.

That's incorrect. Breaking and Entering is just another name for Burglary. The person would be accused of Burglary even it wasn't the case.

 

[Mey]

That's incorrect. Breaking and Entering is just another name for Burglary. The person would be accused of Burglary even it wasn't the case.

I know it is, but the CPS wouldn't charge him with Burglary because they cannot prove beyond the burden. So he'd inaffect just end up getting released.

 

[Laddey]

at the end of the day it would never get to court so it doesn't matter

lies. Lies i tell you!

Court on tuesday for Mr X!

 

[Aoami]

Lol really?

It'll be thrown out of there so fast he won't have time to straighten his tie. Or burberry cap.