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DeadOnArrival

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I have a little button on my qbar that has Perforate artery on it. For some reason over the last 3 or 4 years i been playing it dont seem to work:) Anyone can help me with this. Or has anyone else found themselves to be a complete noob like me at Perfing?

RvR would be a lot more fun for me if i could guarantee a Perf Every Fight. But alas im lucky if i land 1 in 20.

Maybe im using the wrong button :)
 

MxN

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DeadOnArrival said:
I have a little button on my qbar that has Perforate artery on it. For some reason over the last 3 or 4 years i been playing it dont seem to work:) Anyone can help me with this. Or has anyone else found themselves to be a complete noob like me at Perfing?

RvR would be a lot more fun for me if i could guarantee a Perf Every Fight. But alas im lucky if i land 1 in 20.

Maybe im using the wrong button :)

Timing
 

Cylian

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don't think about what you see, but what you _should_ see.
latency is the worst enemy of an assassin :x

...and for speed classes, hit them when they're about 3m away, not when they should be in reach.
 

xxManiacxx

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First step is to know your latency to the server. Know the delay from pressing the button to the server responds.

Second step is to never /stick or /face U don´t have to be face to face for PA to land. U can stand alittle bit on the side of him but u have to face the direction he running from. If u /face him and are alittle on the side u will fail. If u are just looking straight ahead from where he is running instead it will land.

Speed classes are tougher and usually u need to PA maybe 0.5-1s earlier then u have to do normally.

Third step is practice.
 

Dukat

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Dont worry, soon you'll get all the abs debuffs on CS styles, not to mention ws poison. who needs PA? :p

On a more serious note, I know what you're saying, for me as a scout, if I see an assassin coming the first thing I do is turn away so they cant get PA on me, some still manage it, but it gives me a bit of a chance atleast :)
 

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DeadOnArrival said:
I have a little button on my qbar that has Perforate artery on it. For some reason over the last 3 or 4 years i been playing it dont seem to work:) Anyone can help me with this. Or has anyone else found themselves to be a complete noob like me at Perfing?

RvR would be a lot more fun for me if i could guarantee a Perf Every Fight. But alas im lucky if i land 1 in 20.

Maybe im using the wrong button :)
Think you need a chair to stand on to get it of:fluffle:
 

Fenderon

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takes some timing.. also there is the lag.. blabla etc..

but hey, miracles do happen.. just today my RR5 ability worked! (poor luri :( )
 

Herjulf

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Timing.. and if they keep running in a straight line after you PA:ed and you wont perform CD, unstick and turn around you are prolly following a lagghost. :puke:
 

Ging

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respec out of CS then if after 3/4 years u havent got it maybe u need to think about respecing your class.
 

Fsantos

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Aye,

Change you skills to mercinf spec... if you cant use it, you dont need the skill...:touch:
 

Azathrim

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Fsantos said:
Aye,

Change you skills to mercinf spec... if you cant use it, you dont need the skill...:touch:

Pfft, you don't spec CS for PA. It's just a bonus. :)
 

Nuxtobatns

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DeadOnArrival said:
I have a little button on my qbar that has Perforate artery on it. For some reason over the last 3 or 4 years i been playing it dont seem to work:) Anyone can help me with this. Or has anyone else found themselves to be a complete noob like me at Perfing?

RvR would be a lot more fun for me if i could guarantee a Perf Every Fight. But alas im lucky if i land 1 in 20.

Maybe im using the wrong button :)

U r joking ? Right ?
 

illu

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Herjulf said:
Timing.. and if they keep running in a straight line after you PA:ed and you wont perform CD, unstick and turn around you are prolly following a lagghost. :puke:

To not unstealth and get yourself killed, if there is a chance that someone is a lag-ghost, use the /point command at them. If it says their name, go for the PA, if it says you point in the distance, then stay stealthed.

And to land a Pa just takes a lot of practice. Like previous people have said, you basically have to take into account lag of the server, movement speed of the target, direction the target is moving in and whether you are moving or not.

If you are on a bridge, get in the arch to minimise the varience of attack angle. And to land a PA, you basically have to time it so that when you press the PA button, they are a person's length away (so judge the speed they are going and time accordingly). On visibles, PA's aren't too bad to get off. On a stealther it is very hard unless you have SL up.

Sometimes with the person not moving and you walking up to them you can miss PA :>

I have also heard that it is easier to pull off a PA when you are moving towards the target and then keep moving through the target as you PA. On testing this seems to work quite well.

And patience is a big thing also. Wait a few seconds longer to try and get that PA off.

Practice practice practice. And a whole lotte LUCK :>

Oli - Illu
 

Nalistah

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Funny thread.
I mean.. come on.. you actually think it's hard to land a PA after 4 years of play?
 

Phalanx

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I'm having serious problems with landing PA too (and don't say anything about me perfing you, Caestar :). It seems to me that if you have too high latency you just won't be able to land it no matter what; if latency is too high and you click too early expecting this will compensate and that you will be in range once the command reaches the server, then it seems the client will at the same time act on what you have on your screen - an enemy out of range, and instead you get that very message and just unstealth. Brilliant programming by the college yankees at Mythic.

It also constantly surprises me why it fails to land when target is right infront of me or just slightly turned, and yet I see movies of people seemingly walking towards the enemy in huge angles and landing it, see Eden's nightshade movie for examples of this, and I just don't understand how.
 

Tempra

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Get a real template so you dont HAVE to PA to win.

PA you can use for targets standing still, PA i dont think you should use to open the fight.

Try diffrent styles i asume ur a lurri, i used BSII alot when i played or i just beat them down, lag sure is a pain in the rear but many times if you win or loose it has nothing to do with the lag. use all toys available bleed styles/stun/spin around pots etc etc. that makes u win

I was only rr3 when i chewed rr7 infils etc binfil *wink wink*

/retired hibbie
 

Cylian

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PAing is a tricky business. Sometimes you fail it on a sitting target, other times you can perf people from the side or from the back.
 

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Tempra said:
Get a real template so you dont HAVE to PA to win.

PA you can use for targets standing still, PA i dont think you should use to open the fight.

Try diffrent styles i asume ur a lurri, i used BSII alot when i played or i just beat them down, lag sure is a pain in the rear but many times if you win or loose it has nothing to do with the lag. use all toys available bleed styles/stun/spin around pots etc etc. that makes u win

I was only rr3 when i chewed rr7 infils etc binfil *wink wink*

/retired hibbie

Yes as a pierce NS u have 2 non crit related stun styles available to you, diamondback and side stun, so with strafeing you have a good chance of landing either, if purge is down then stun = win against other assasins.

Inf only has DF (if specced thrust) or no stun style if specced slash if PA/CD isnt used. NS's will always have stun side style to rely on.
 

Neffneff

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Tempra said:
PA i dont think you should use to open the fight.


i agree tbh, i find it alot more usefull to PA towards the end of a fight, specially if you dont get many evades in 0o

:twak:
 

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Neffneff said:
i agree tbh, i find it alot more usefull to PA towards the end of a fight, specially if you dont get many evades in 0o

:twak:

im gonna vanish <wait 30 sec> then PA u next time i see u intimate!
 

Tempra

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Ging said:
Yes as a pierce NS u have 2 non crit related stun styles available to you, diamondback and side stun, so with strafeing you have a good chance of landing either, if purge is down then stun = win against other assasins.

Inf only has DF (if specced thrust) or no stun style if specced slash if PA/CD isnt used. NS's will always have stun side style to rely on.


Thats sutch a sad excuse, yes i played pierce i had diamondback and so on but to 99% i NEVER used it, so many other tools that you can use to win.

Not to mention the spec of the char so important just as important as the temp is some just stealth 34 cs 50 blade 50 or whatever then they go out and think they will wtfpwn, But all that happends is that they die.

Not to mention all who think "hey lets roll a stealther" but not all can play stealther classes they honestly suck arse on it, if everyone played rr10 ml10's im sure everyone wont be as good.

styles does not matter really either you say 2 stun styles and inf only has DF so? you must land them aswell to make them work..Thats also a factor i said earlier "your personal playstyle" dont give him the side then if u know he can stun u"

Just as like when i face a infil i see is thrust if he evade a blow ofc i try run behind him/out of view so i know he wont land the DF.

Not the classic i see so damn many times F8-stick then they just hang there and key 4 diamond slash /key 4 diamond slash. i never stick anyone beside when im stealthed i spam F8 and stick button.

Anyways.......back to subject still disagree to open fight with a PA unless its a none stealther standing still or ofc if u have vanish up you can try hit and if fekup u can vanish.
 

Tafaya Anathas

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The old strafing problem. I figured it out that:

All strafers are retards.

It's that simple for me.
 

Lick

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Nalistah said:
Funny thread.
I mean.. come on.. you actually think it's hard to land a PA after 4 years of play?

yup, play in ToA mode and have a good connection and a decent PC - PA fucks up most of the time and CD is a joke due to latency shit etc.
 

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