FAO master levels

[uspe]

just wondering can ppl who orginize thease to chill down a bit???
if you look at hib or mid section of FH you can barely see 4 scedules. (atm hibs got 4 whoch some r pre steps and mids got 2 with pre steps too) and albs got 5+ sometimes it reachers 7 scedules.

i know ml are important i agree with that but chill down a bit with those. make other raids such as rvr. or other pve whichi believe its fun too and can make money there too. ( imo most scedules here are for money farm not because they need the ml )

 

[Golena]

You've posted this on every ML thread already.
If ML raids keep getting the numbers then there's no reason to stop them.

 

[rampant]

uspe can you please explain why you are against people playing the game as they want to?

 

[psyco]

well... imo, i agree there are currently 2 many...
but i agree with Golena while they still get numbers its ok, cause that meens there are still people out there that want them

but it makes it impossible to plan other raids while these are on, like Sidi, Dragon raids, Co5 and Artefact raids... as ML attendance will allways be more popular over others

and group raids may also suffer like Leviathan, Kraken, Darkspire, Xancuir(people still do these?), ML pre steps and Power Level groups

it also may effect more(PuG) groups like Epics, Champion quests and other quests that are require people helping

and last but not least, a RvR presents

in the last month or so there has been 5(or so) ml rush's... and there are only 10 char slots on 1 realm/account, so if you were able to attend all 5 that's 1/2 of your chars ml'd... whereas there have been far fewer successful Sidi and Epic mob raids

sure, overall its the 'play' style that matters, but there's nothing like a change of scenery

 

[thergador]

i agree theres a few mls rush and like i have said i will not run my next one till after the new year

shans are all separate days so this helps some people that cant do full days

not sure why reaveruse chose to run his own ml rush's one before and one after mine but he pays his own subs and so do those that attend his two day events

as for sidi etc not sure how many peeps like running them (i dont mind ether way)

but if peeps dont show up n mass numbers then ml rush/raid organisers will know its time not to run them hence why is posted this in my thread

do peeps still want me to run this as reaveruse has just run one this week end and he's running another the week end after

and 1 day ml rushs only reaaly work with big numbers or it truns it to an ml crawl so if you guys are going to come plz give some idea of numbers so i know weather to run it or cancle it

(cant remember if quoting my self like this brakes FH coc i hope not)

but yes i do agree there should be a fortnight at least between mlrushs as its not give peeps a chance to run other raids, (i will be running my raid as people have asked me to keep it as they will not go on the other for there own reasons). so many be the really thing is do ml leaders look at what other raids are running it would seem that some people run there own raids so they can can pre-claim stuff(not pointing fingers).

the only way to solve the problem is for albs to vote with there feet as it was , if they dont want the raids, then dont go to them

hope that makes sence getting tired

 

[Arelas]

I can not see where u will come with this m8 as the is not u there pay for play this game so peep can do what there want and if there not come on mls then it is up to them self u will never get a change to be god or something as u try atm m8 .. U will only be a player like all us other..

 

[jrjr999]

just wondering can ppl who orginize thease to chill down a bit???
if you look at hib or mid section of FH you can barely see 4 scedules. (atm hibs got 4 whoch some r pre steps and mids got 2 with pre steps too) and albs got 5+ sometimes it reachers 7 scedules.

i know ml are important i agree with that but chill down a bit with those. make other raids such as rvr. or other pve whichi believe its fun too and can make money there too. ( imo most scedules here are for money farm not because they need the ml )

Posted a pve raid to see if anyone was interested,so far 2 pps.
As oposed to ML, As lots of pps. want these it seems to be the correct thing to run.
Try posting a scedule yourself

 

[thergador]

I can not see where u will come with this m8 as the is not u there pay for play this game so peep can do what there want and if there not come on mls then it is up to them self u will never get a change to be god or something as u try atm m8 .. U will only be a player like all us other..

if this was for me then it looks like my post didnt get my piont accross

i ment peeps pay there own subs and if they trun up to mls peeps will still run them only way for them to stop running them is for albs not to go on them

 

[Bloodcore]

this is silly

 

[thergador]

this is silly

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what a useful comment, whats silly the while theard or may be some one's post

 

[psyco]

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what a useful comment, whats silly the while theard or may be some one's post

have you been drinking?

 

[Bloodcore]

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what a useful comment, whats silly the while theard or may be some one's post

The post, ppl can do as many ml raids as they want. If more ppl turn up for ml, then its cuz they are needed more than other raids.

At some point, maybe, it will ballance it self out, when ppl start not to turn up, till then: this is silly

 

[Golena]

but it makes it impossible to plan other raids while these are on, like Sidi, Dragon raids, Co5 and Artefact raids... as ML attendance will allways be more popular over others

and group raids may also suffer like Leviathan, Kraken, Darkspire, Xancuir(people still do these?), ML pre steps and Power Level groups

it also may effect more(PuG) groups like Epics, Champion quests and other quests that are require people helping

Dragon raids - can be done with 8 people.
C05 - can be done with 8 people.
Artefact raids - There's very few artifacts in the game that actually take more than 8 people.
Leviathan - Done with 8 people.
Kraken - Done with 8 people.
Darkspire - Can't take more than 8 people.
ML pre-steps - 8 people.
PL groups - Normally 4 people.
Epics - Max of 8 people.
Champ quests - Max of 8 people.
Sidi - Everything except Apoc can pretty much be done with 8 people.
AC dragon - Maybe needs more these days.


My point being that most of the other PvE raids mentioned can or need to be done with fairly small numbers of people. The number of other PvE raids where it makes sense to take more than a FG is actually fairly small. Maybe arti raids and the SI raids being the only ones.
Now if you can't find another 7 people on the server prepared to not attend one of the "too many" ML raids occuring, then it's probably actually got nothing to do with the fact that it clashes with an ML raid and more to do with the fact that they don't actually want to attend your raid. There's very little reason that most of the raids above shouldn't be able to happen along side an ML raid.

In the Co5 raid posted recently many people said.. would of come but Zeus is running an ML rush that day. Since as has been pointed out there's ML rushes going on all the time, then missing that one to attend the other raid really wouldn't of been that big a deal since they could just catch next weeks rush. If the problem is that you want the people that would rather attend the ML to come, purely because there's no other raid running that they can attend that day, then the raid your trying to organise really isn't popular enough to demand cancelation of the ML raids.

 

[Shannesa]

my rush posted above is last fore this year and then i be not doing rusehes before end of januari or something like that when comes to mlks

 

[thergador]

In the Co5 raid posted recently many people said.. would of come but Zeus is running an ML rush that day. Since as has been pointed out there's ML rushes going on all the time, then missing that one to attend the other raid really wouldn't of been that big a deal since they could just catch next weeks rush. If the problem is that you want the people that would rather attend the ML to come, purely because there's no other raid running that they can attend that day, then the raid your trying to organise really isn't popular enough to demand cancelation of the ML raids.

Co5 the 25th saturday
mlrush the 26th suday

i did check dates to make sure nothing was on so no clash between mine and pysco raid

 

[psyco]

Co5 the 25th saturday
mlrush the 26th suday

i did check dates to make sure nothing was on so no clash between mine and pysco raid

i posted after actually

but his referring to the 1FG raid

and its nice to know that your more considerate than allmighty

 

[uspe]

i have posted a caer sidi raid for next week and asked to be sticky. but sticky section it seems to be full of ml raids. and ofc my raid its going to be buried.

 

[Golena]

i have posted a caer sidi raid for next week and asked to be sticky. but sticky section it seems to be full of ml raids. and ofc my raid its going to be buried.

Have you PM'ed a mod asking for it to be stickied like in the "how to get my raid made sticky instructions" or did you just write "sitcky me plz" in your thread?

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess it was the second. Another case of someone blaming ML raids for something that's actually got nothing to do with it.

 

[psyco]

Dragon raids - can be done with 8 people.
C05 - can be done with 8 people.
Artefact raids - There's very few artifacts in the game that actually take more than 8 people.
Leviathan - Done with 8 people.
Kraken - Done with 8 people.
Darkspire - Can't take more than 8 people.
ML pre-steps - 8 people.
PL groups - Normally 4 people.
Epics - Max of 8 people.
Champ quests - Max of 8 people.
Sidi - Everything except Apoc can pretty much be done with 8 people.
AC dragon - Maybe needs more these days.

bg's are so much more fun than 1fg raids imo alot more laid back

ac dragon, is possible to do with a focus class(though when getting there it is ultimately easier with a necro, di and the necro cant get agro ftw) + 2 clerics

someone taught me how to do it a while ago, but due to my short term memory loss i forgot the majority of it... something about going round the back to kill him, couldn't see the point then and still cant