FAO Durrell

[Alhanna]

Mos5?

 

[Ballistixxx]

Fyi yes he has

 

[Alhanna]

That explains it.

 

[Durrell]

Hi m8 yes im Mos 5 Sniper Spec so had to get crit on you or you would have

whooped my ass .

You led me a merry dance with all those spikes lol

 

[Alhanna]

I will have to rethink my RA's if you are able to get behind me and shoot me without my detecting you at all. I think MOS3 would be enough it seems I am wrong. And you don't even have detect stealth!! Well played dear anyway.

 

[Solari]

If dur has a composite 50 stealth, mos 5 and camo up you wouldn't see him before he could hit you with his sword

 

[Castus]

mos5 is so much fun as an archer

 

[Durrell]

Aye castus it can be but get whooped by melee classes if they get drop on me so DB(desp bowman) and run like hell

 

[Aiteal]

mos5 is so much fun as an archer

Isnt it just
Especially when they run around for a few secs screaming wtf????

But a waste of points tbh unless you are full bow

 

[xxManiacxx]

Difference between MoS2 and MoS3 is so small it´s a waste of points.

 

[Ballistixxx]

is Mos 4 a significant difference over MoS 3? i dont think i can spare the 34 points for MoS 5 ... and not sure on the efficiency of 4

 

[Aiteal]

is Mos 4 a significant difference over MoS 3? i dont think i can spare the 34 points for MoS 5 ... and not sure on the efficiency of 4

Mos3 you'll not get perfed unless you are careless
Mos4 you can crit other strealthers out of stealth if you take your time and they are standing still camping an area.
Any stealther with half a brain will start moving sharpish if he/she hears that bow draw noise anywhere near them if they are standing still however.

 

[Ballistixxx]

is MoS the equivalent of ring of dances? sumbody told me that , im not sure though

 

[Thorwyn]

is Mos 4 a significant difference over MoS 3? i dont think i can spare the 34 points for MoS 5 ... and not sure on the efficiency of 4

Either go moS3 or MoS5.
MoS4 is nomans land, not enough to reliably crit stealthers and more than enough to avoid PA. I´m MoS5 for ages and I love it, although I`m missing quite a lot of goodies once I`m out of stealth

 

[illu]

MoS isn't SteathLore (Ring of Dances 30 second ability 15min RUT (I think)) but it is confusing as to how it all works.
From what I understand, the hierarchy table looks something like this:
Stealthlore
Lookout
MoS5
MoS4
MoS3
MoS2
MoS1
50 Stealth
49 Stealth etc.
Camo goes in the list somewhere too. Not quite sure where though.

I believe SL gives superstealth for you and superstealth detection for 30 secs every 15 mins.

Lookout is Spymaster ability in a duo where the person without lookout sits and then the person with Lookout uses it on them. You can then see superstealth detection (the range doesn't seem to be as far as SL) until the person sitting moves - or I think the person who is looking out moves (it's been a while since I've tried this out)

MoS5 lets archers see miles away
MoS5 for assassins lets them see even further away (I think)
Camo hides archers if they haven't fought for a while (10 mins?)

Archers need MoS3+
Assassins need MoS0->MoS2. MoS3 is a luxury.

I've probably got it all wrong, but this is how I understand it all works :>

Oli - Illu

 

[Ging]

When i tested MoS5 on my inf i could see Archer classes miles away but gave no benefit against other assasins. Weird but from my PoV MoS5 was a waste. i think it is different from an archer pov and u guys can see ALL stealthed opponents?

 

[Thorwyn]

think it is different from an archer pov and u guys can see ALL stealthed opponents?

At least the ones that aren´t camo´ed.

 

[Void959]

When i tested MoS5 on my inf i could see Archer classes miles away but gave no benefit against other assasins. Weird but from my PoV MoS5 was a waste. i think it is different from an archer pov and u guys can see ALL stealthed opponents?

Yep its meant to be that way. MOS has no effect on assassins ability to detect other assassins, regardless of its level. Archers benefit fully from it, as it increases their range for both archers and assassins, this is why archers get more benefit from MOS.

Camo totally negates MOS but is only up if the archer has not been in combat at all for 10 mins.

MOS Does not affect your ability to BE detected, only to see others. Detection range increases are:

Level 1 - 75 units
Level 2 - 175 units
Level 3 - 300 units
Lecel 4 - 450 units
Level 5 - 625 units

Stealth Lore supposedly increases your effective stealth ability by 35, giving greater detection range, this SHOULD mean an effective 1750 unit range for assassins who already have 50 composite (against both archers and other assassins) and 600 for archers who already have 50 composite (Minstrels would get a similar benefit if they had around 50 composite). However this alone would also mean SL shouldn't give any advantage to visibles, as they would only get 35 total which would not help against any stealther, and is clearly not true. My personal opinion is that is also gives a flat detection range bonus of around 200-500 units.