Fao: Cyclodia

[Melachi]

Cyclodia, read that post on VN about your infil -v- shade tests, but since you couldnt post the results there could you post em here please?

Ohh, this is also directed at the Infil and Warrior who helped with the tests.

 

[Raven]

he got banned from FH for being a tard so he wont be able to post it here

 

[Matmardigan]

he got banned from FH for being a tard so he wont be able to post it here

why? what he did?

 

[Aloca]

why? what he did?

acting like a tard

 

[- English -]

all boo tilda

 

[censi]

was a very interesting post.

http://vnboards.ign.com/Hibernia_Stalker_Professions/b20908/74593068/?344

basically an inf and a NS with identical spec (50 pokey, 50 cs, 0 cd/dw, both +16) both same WS, roughly same dex+str, no RA's, same identical speed 99% SC weap, equal relic status, roughly same quick, attack same target (mid chain wearer) using garrotte style only.

the average damage on the inf compared to the NS was considerably higher.

No one knows why. some theory about base stats playing a part. But really the average damage should be more or less identical.

I would love to see a proper answer from mythic on this.

 

[Loxleyhood]

I know why. NS have access to limited magic

Another mystery solved by Loxleyhood!

 

[censi]

which is supposed is one reason infs get 2.5 spec points and some other perks, but this has nothing to do with the point the post is getting at (but ask infs if they would trade 2.5 spec points for NS magic)

This test is interesting, because there should be no reason for the infiltraitor damage to be higher.

 

[Raven]

ahem, i quote "A strong spell caster who follows the way of stealth the nightshade can hide and sneak unnoticed by his or her enemies, and strike when the need arises" - that probably has something to do with it, utter BS ofc

 

[Aloca]

ahem, i quote "A strong spell caster who follows the way of stealth the nightshade can hide and sneak unnoticed by his or her enemies, and strike when the need arises" - that probably has something to do with it, utter BS ofc

Our spells is supposed to be balanced by infils 2.5 spec but in this test the infil doesnt use its advantage with more spec pts

 

[Loxleyhood]

Oh well. Maybe you just get shafted then. Who cares?

 

[rvn]

i think its because the infil used 50 + 5 + 11 thrust, where as cyclodia used 50 + 8 + 8 (3 skill from items could give alot more than from realm rank...)

 

[censi]

it shoudn't make any difference.

the end of the day +1 to a skill is +1 to a skill regardless of whether it comes from RR or an item

you could prove you theory buy testing the melee damage on a RR0 with say +2 CS and thrust. then when he dings rr1 drop to +1 CS and thrust and compare damage on same target used at rr0

 

[Gajinn]

Post logs and silence all the heatens?

 

[Dracus]

i think its because the infil used 50 + 5 + 11 thrust, where as cyclodia used 50 + 8 + 8 (3 skill from items could give alot more than from realm rank...)

That would show on WS then?

/Dracus

 

[Aussie]

saw no logs
excuses he could't host them (lol)
excuse they might be wrong with some error
excuse someone told him not to post them

random VN slan:

No logs. Thus this thread sucks.
No proof. Thus this thread sucks.
Only trolling. This this thread sucks.

GG

and guess what, I agree !

 

[Filip]

how much would the NS's DD's hit for ? just curious been a zillion years since i did any stealther wars...

 

[Loxleyhood]

Enough to interrupt a bow shot. Enough to ignore your shield and evade.

 

[Shangrila]

NS are stlong mages, yeah !
- shout can be resisted
- dmg is joke
- costs more end than a style

I'd ALWAYS trade the "uber magic" for .5 more spec points, cause you cant resist those and they dont cost end either ;-)

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

NS are stlong mages, yeah !
- shout can be resisted
- dmg is joke
- costs more end than a style

I'd ALWAYS trade the "uber magic" for .5 more spec points, cause you cant resist those and they dont cost end either ;-)

isn't .3 spec pts more enough ? or do u really feel like 2.7 spec pts is the only way to make up for it

maybe the ewul infil had some DW spec xD

 

[Shangrila]

ops, yeah. .3 spec points ofc ;-)

 

[Valeres]

thank god albion has infiltrators, otherwise the other realms would never whine..

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

thank god albion has infiltrators, otherwise the other realms would never whine..

MINSTRELS HAVE INSTANT STUN !!!! NERRRFFF

or to quote [insert high RR mid stealthere name here] some time ago....

All alb stealthers have instant stun....

Mincers have shout
Infils have DF (same as instant)
Scouts have slam (any time style = instant)

 

[liloe]

Aussie, let's wait for monday =))

 

[Gordonax]

NS are stlong mages, yeah !
- shout can be resisted
- dmg is joke
- costs more end than a style

All of which is equally true about minstrel's shouts - although this never seems to stop Mid/Hib stealthers whining about them.

 

[Flimgoblin]

can I post that I've got logs that PROVE! that hib mages do more damage than alb ones! even despite the delve and the 5% lifetap thing?

then say "I'll post logs" for a few days then post "ooh I got told not to post them" and have everyone going "yeah but hib mages are overpowered anyway coz of X Y Z"?

Sounds fun!

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

hibs are overpowered because they have stealthers with 179 delve nukes in NF, I feel that is unfair since when I root them they can nuke me SBs and infils only have casting axe and x-bow, they miss anyway, but NS nuke for soooo much !

please give NS 2 * spec pts only if they have ewul magic !
:touch:


Edit: damm my logs disapeared

 

[Loxleyhood]

MINSTRELS HAVE INSTANT STUN !!!! NERRRFFF

or to quote [insert high RR mid stealthere name here] some time ago....

The only people who whine about Slam are people who have never actually had to use Slam.

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

LOL

NS can get almost identical spec to infils, have 3 identical lines, same mechanics on 2 lines and cyc 'imagines' there is a magical damage difference.

Just admit it - you screwed up the data, made yourself look stupid and are now hiding.

There is no difference between NS and infils.

 

[Aloca]

LOL

NS can get almost identical spec to infils, have 3 identical lines, same mechanics on 2 lines and cyc 'imagines' there is a magical damage difference.

Just admit it - you screwed up the data, made yourself look stupid and are now hiding.

There is no difference between NS and infils.

Yes almost identical , a Infil can be rr7 and have a "perfect" 50/50 spec, a NS only need to be rr15 (GL with that)
All styles Infils have access to is about 10% better than any NS ones