EU release
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Gumbo
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I recently did the whole download thing, and on isdn, that aint funny, however I think it's been worth it, I just left it going while I was at work.
You could try and find someone who did what I did, but also has a DVD burner to save you the d/l, if you are on dialup or whatever. It's all one big zip, so should work ok. There is also a further 100 and something meg patch to sit through, once you have it installed though.
You could try and find someone who did what I did, but also has a DVD burner to save you the d/l, if you are on dialup or whatever. It's all one big zip, so should work ok. There is also a further 100 and something meg patch to sit through, once you have it installed though.
Sarum
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I think a Euro release is unlikely.
Most euro customers who want to play, do already. And if they did an official release, they'd have to offer better euro timezone support, ship the comic, run servers this side of the atlantic etc. So it equates to (in their eyes no doubt) a large setup and running cost for very little actual gain.
Most euro customers who want to play, do already. And if they did an official release, they'd have to offer better euro timezone support, ship the comic, run servers this side of the atlantic etc. So it equates to (in their eyes no doubt) a large setup and running cost for very little actual gain.
Why should they waste their money targetting Europe specifically? The internet is available from around the world and they allow people to buy and subscribe from any country. I don't see that a specifically European version is warranted really.Ning said:
Nightchill
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Must agree; it's not difficult to download the client and buy the cd key online, from the official site. Do you really need a hardcopy of the manual? 
more professional ? Maybe for DAOC but SOE (Everquest, SWG) service is shitty.
For english language, I don't care, I speak fluently english, german and french language.
I get lower pings on European servers (40 ms) than on US servers (120 ms).
I don't even mention the difference of time zone (I've got a job, I can't play the whole night).
For english language, I don't care, I speak fluently english, german and french language.
I get lower pings on European servers (40 ms) than on US servers (120 ms).
I don't even mention the difference of time zone (I've got a job, I can't play the whole night).
Sarum
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There is a large Euro community on Virtue (and a couple of the other servers) so you don't have to play in the middle of the night. In fact, it's better if you don't. By late evening the zones are getting crowded and the servers a little more sluggish than earlier in the evening when the yanks are still working/schooling/hanging about on street corners/whatever else they do during the day.
Unlike an FPS, ping isn't a major issue for MMOGs, even actiony ones like CoH. It's easily playable with 200-300ms pings providing the connection is stable at that.
Jobs for Europe? Well, yes... but 15 low paid bods answering support messages and rebooting the servers every couple of days is hardly going to make the difference to anyone's economy.
I agree that dedicated euro support, servers and the "free" comic would be preferable, but I don't see it happening. Refusing to play simply because NCsoft don't see the need to do a euro release seems to me to be "cutting off your nose to spite your face".
Unlike an FPS, ping isn't a major issue for MMOGs, even actiony ones like CoH. It's easily playable with 200-300ms pings providing the connection is stable at that.
Jobs for Europe? Well, yes... but 15 low paid bods answering support messages and rebooting the servers every couple of days is hardly going to make the difference to anyone's economy.
I agree that dedicated euro support, servers and the "free" comic would be preferable, but I don't see it happening. Refusing to play simply because NCsoft don't see the need to do a euro release seems to me to be "cutting off your nose to spite your face".
We're not talking about GOA/Mythic or SOE though - COH is run by PlayNC and Cryptic.Ning said:
If you speak English, what's the issue in playing on a US server?
Ping isn't a big deal really - I play virtue with a 280-330 ping and it's smooth and playable. twitch reactions are not a must for MMORPGs in general.
It's not like the server shuts down except between 6pm and midnight US time - there's generally plenty of people on when I play (and yes I have a job).
Nightchill
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Just to add: Virtue has a high eu population (and is the unofficial roleplay server). There's also Victory, which was the unofficial EU server. I've never had trouble finding groups and I work normally, play for an hour or so each evening if I'm lucky
meerclar
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i play on victory server.
i work night shift.
i have only a couple of hours a day to play and always find a group regardless of what class i am playing.
i feel no need for a EU server/release.
the only thing that annoys me is my lack of comic books.
i work night shift.
i have only a couple of hours a day to play and always find a group regardless of what class i am playing.
i feel no need for a EU server/release.
the only thing that annoys me is my lack of comic books.
Sarum
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Yes, give us the comic!
And also stop doing competitions that have "must be a legal resident of the United States of America" as one of the conditions!! I mean, the competition is to email them a witty one liner. And the prize is getting your character drawn up in the comic (probably as a hapless extra). Just why does that need to be restricted to Americans?
And also stop doing competitions that have "must be a legal resident of the United States of America" as one of the conditions!! I mean, the competition is to email them a witty one liner. And the prize is getting your character drawn up in the comic (probably as a hapless extra). Just why does that need to be restricted to Americans?
Sarum
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Something on this topic from the official (ugh!) boards....
NCsoft Enters European Market
NCsoft Europe Established in London; UK One Step Closer To Building A Global Network for Online Game Service
Austin, TEXAS, July 19, 2004—NCsoft® Corporation (KSE: 036570.KS), the world’s leading developer and publisher of online computer games, has announced plans to enter the European market through the creation of NCsoft Europe. NCsoft is planning to establish a wholly-owned subsidiary company called NCsoft Europe Ltd. located in London, UK with an investment of £3,223,470 (GBP) (approximately US$6 million or 70 billion Korean Won).
NCsoft already has successfully established itself in North America, Japan, Taiwan, China and Thailand. With the upcoming venture into Europe, NCsoft takes one step closer to constructing a global network for online game services.
NCsoft Europe will be headed by Geoffrey Heath, who has a history of building businesses in Europe. In addition to being instrumental in helping Activision establish a foothold as the UK's first third-party publisher for the Atari 2600, he has also advised other major US game companies such as Origin Systems and Maxis. Heath also established Mindscape International and was a key member of the team that managed the sale of the Mindscape Group to Pearson. Heath is also chairman of Climax Group, a leading games developer.
“NCsoft is a business that has captured the imagination of gamers across Asian and US markets. Europe is the next step for the company as it grows its global online games network,” said Heath.
Currently, American-made online games are dominating the game industry in Europe. Since the exports of Korean game companies have been heavily concentrated in Asian market such as China, Korean made games have not made significant strides in Europe. According to the Korean Ministry of Culture & Tourism 2004 Game Economic White Paper, the market share of Korean games exported to different regions is as follows: China 52.4 percent, Taiwan 16.6 percent, Southeast Asia 6.5 percent, Japan 6 percent, North America 5.7 percent, and Europe 2 percent.
NCsoft is planning to launch service for Lineage® II, and City of Heroes™ in Europe by the end of 2004. After that, the company will continue to service new games with the objective of establishing itself as a leading online game company in the European region by 2005.
About NCsoft Corporation
Headquartered in Seoul, South Korea, NCsoft Corp. is the world’s leading developer and publisher of online games. Founded in 1997, NCsoft is home to Lineage, the world’s most successful online role playing game. NCsoft has joint venture offices located in Japan, Taiwan, and China. In fiscal year 2003, NCsoft posted revenues of KRW (Korean Won) 166.5 billion or approximately US$143 million. More information about NCsoft can be found at http://www.ncsoft.net.
About NCsoft – North America
NCsoft – North America (NC-NA) is headquartered in Austin, Texas and is part of Korea-based NCsoft Corporation. NC-NA, with development and administrative offices in Texas and California, launched two ground-breaking titles in the first half of 2004, Lineage II and City of Heroes. The company also works with NCsoft subsidiary ArenaNet™ (located in Seattle, WA) and third party developers throughout North America, such as Cryptic Studios and NetDevil, to develop and publish innovative online entertainment software products. More information about NCsoft – North America can be found at http://www.PlayNC.com.
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NCsoft and Lineage are registered trademarks of NCsoft Corp. PlayNC, PlayNC.com and ArenaNet are trademarks of NCsoft Corp. City of Heroes is a trademark of NCsoft Corp. and Cryptic Studios, Inc. Cryptic Studios is a trademark of Cryptic Studios, Inc. All other trademarks and trade names are the properties of their respective owners.
No doubt the EU release will be on a completly seperate platform, and you'll need a new CD key, subs and to re-roll your char. Patches will probably be behind too while they do stranslation stuff (since, if you're going to go to the effort of setting up over here, you might as well aim at the fairly large non-English speaking market too). But maybe we'll get the comic... or maybe it won't be offered as part of the EU release.NCsoft Europe Established in London; UK One Step Closer To Building A Global Network for Online Game Service
Austin, TEXAS, July 19, 2004—NCsoft® Corporation (KSE: 036570.KS), the world’s leading developer and publisher of online computer games, has announced plans to enter the European market through the creation of NCsoft Europe. NCsoft is planning to establish a wholly-owned subsidiary company called NCsoft Europe Ltd. located in London, UK with an investment of £3,223,470 (GBP) (approximately US$6 million or 70 billion Korean Won).
NCsoft already has successfully established itself in North America, Japan, Taiwan, China and Thailand. With the upcoming venture into Europe, NCsoft takes one step closer to constructing a global network for online game services.
NCsoft Europe will be headed by Geoffrey Heath, who has a history of building businesses in Europe. In addition to being instrumental in helping Activision establish a foothold as the UK's first third-party publisher for the Atari 2600, he has also advised other major US game companies such as Origin Systems and Maxis. Heath also established Mindscape International and was a key member of the team that managed the sale of the Mindscape Group to Pearson. Heath is also chairman of Climax Group, a leading games developer.
“NCsoft is a business that has captured the imagination of gamers across Asian and US markets. Europe is the next step for the company as it grows its global online games network,” said Heath.
Currently, American-made online games are dominating the game industry in Europe. Since the exports of Korean game companies have been heavily concentrated in Asian market such as China, Korean made games have not made significant strides in Europe. According to the Korean Ministry of Culture & Tourism 2004 Game Economic White Paper, the market share of Korean games exported to different regions is as follows: China 52.4 percent, Taiwan 16.6 percent, Southeast Asia 6.5 percent, Japan 6 percent, North America 5.7 percent, and Europe 2 percent.
NCsoft is planning to launch service for Lineage® II, and City of Heroes™ in Europe by the end of 2004. After that, the company will continue to service new games with the objective of establishing itself as a leading online game company in the European region by 2005.
About NCsoft Corporation
Headquartered in Seoul, South Korea, NCsoft Corp. is the world’s leading developer and publisher of online games. Founded in 1997, NCsoft is home to Lineage, the world’s most successful online role playing game. NCsoft has joint venture offices located in Japan, Taiwan, and China. In fiscal year 2003, NCsoft posted revenues of KRW (Korean Won) 166.5 billion or approximately US$143 million. More information about NCsoft can be found at http://www.ncsoft.net.
About NCsoft – North America
NCsoft – North America (NC-NA) is headquartered in Austin, Texas and is part of Korea-based NCsoft Corporation. NC-NA, with development and administrative offices in Texas and California, launched two ground-breaking titles in the first half of 2004, Lineage II and City of Heroes. The company also works with NCsoft subsidiary ArenaNet™ (located in Seattle, WA) and third party developers throughout North America, such as Cryptic Studios and NetDevil, to develop and publish innovative online entertainment software products. More information about NCsoft – North America can be found at http://www.PlayNC.com.
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NCsoft and Lineage are registered trademarks of NCsoft Corp. PlayNC, PlayNC.com and ArenaNet are trademarks of NCsoft Corp. City of Heroes is a trademark of NCsoft Corp. and Cryptic Studios, Inc. Cryptic Studios is a trademark of Cryptic Studios, Inc. All other trademarks and trade names are the properties of their respective owners.
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Sarum said:
Doubt it, as they'd have to get that translated as well!
Arindra
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Sarum said:
You'd be thinking of the clusterfuck that is the european daoc offering.
Nobody other notable MMOG has delays for translation into English for UK servers.
And almost everyone else allowed server transfer as a one off at the european launch.
If you want to play in German/Spanish/Italian etc, then you might be right. But since it will be run by NCSoft, and almost certainly have *technical* support out of the Cryptic site in the US (no point whatsoever splitting it between two sites - customer support might be separated, but that's a whole other thing); there is no reason to expect patching delays on English language servers even if they do introduce delayed patching on european language servers (and thatis a significant *if* in itself).
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Grumps
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I ordered the game last week from CD WOW for £24.99, and it came this Tuesday, which became Wed morning very quickly. Loaded the game, patched itself (28 mins), created account, sorted my subs and it was that quick and simple. Servers were down for about 30 mins, but minor delay no problem. Created hero and just got bogged down in the naming process as all my cool names were gone and he ended up with a very dodgy one, but who said life as superhero was easy?
All I can say is setting up was simple, and for a PC newbie like me, quite important to get that reliable feeling. It's nice to have faith in a game because it's easy to set up all the bits and bobs. Played from 1600 Tues to dawn Wed morning and I haven't had a session like that in ages.
Yes the game is a bit samey in places but at 0521 Wed I learnt to hover and fly (slowly!) and I thought that was just the most fucking cool thing ever. I had no map disconnects, no fps lagging (except in heavily polpulated area's which I expected) and no other problems. I'm having a total blast with it all.
I can't see that I need a European version of the game, but if people know how cheap the game is to buy anyway (i didn't get charged import tax either as only one item!) then take up of the game may just swell a fair bit.
Anyone got any other idea's?
Grumps!
All I can say is setting up was simple, and for a PC newbie like me, quite important to get that reliable feeling. It's nice to have faith in a game because it's easy to set up all the bits and bobs. Played from 1600 Tues to dawn Wed morning and I haven't had a session like that in ages.
Yes the game is a bit samey in places but at 0521 Wed I learnt to hover and fly (slowly!) and I thought that was just the most fucking cool thing ever. I had no map disconnects, no fps lagging (except in heavily polpulated area's which I expected) and no other problems. I'm having a total blast with it all.
I can't see that I need a European version of the game, but if people know how cheap the game is to buy anyway (i didn't get charged import tax either as only one item!) then take up of the game may just swell a fair bit.
Anyone got any other idea's?
Grumps!
oooh
I hope that if they open a branch in Europe we can get the comic! I hate the fact that we are left without. At least they could email us a pdf copy
Gianna
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I hope that if they open a branch in Europe we can get the comic! I hate the fact that we are left without. At least they could email us a pdf copy
Gianna
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Bone_Idle
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i did some searching on the support part and found this. This is for the US game atm though.:-
Question
What payment options are available?
Answer
At this time, we only accept 2 month game time cards which can be purchased at your local game retailer or valid credit cards. We accept Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Discover and JCB.
Current payment plans for recurring credit card billing are:
1 month for $14.95
3 months for $41.85 ($13.95 per month)
6 months for $77.70 ($12.95 per month)
12 months for $143.40 ($11.95 per month)
All game accounts on your PlayNC master account will bill to the same credit card on file for recurring billing.
Thats about all i can find atm.
Question
What payment options are available?
Answer
At this time, we only accept 2 month game time cards which can be purchased at your local game retailer or valid credit cards. We accept Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Discover and JCB.
Current payment plans for recurring credit card billing are:
1 month for $14.95
3 months for $41.85 ($13.95 per month)
6 months for $77.70 ($12.95 per month)
12 months for $143.40 ($11.95 per month)
All game accounts on your PlayNC master account will bill to the same credit card on file for recurring billing.
Thats about all i can find atm.
svartalf
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Bone_Idle said:At this time, we only accept 2 month game time cards which can be purchased at your local game retailer or valid credit cards. We accept Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Discover and JCB.
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Thats about all i can find atm.
I guess that's a, "no", then
Bone_Idle
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Dont give up just yet. I dont know if you live in the UK or not. ( I guess they'll ship to euroland).
Game time cards.
(link is from another thread on FH CoH):
http://www.importmadness.com/cgi-bin/search?keywords=city+of+heroes
Game time cards.
(link is from another thread on FH CoH):
http://www.importmadness.com/cgi-bin/search?keywords=city+of+heroes