English hospitals are a complete joke

[fettoken]

Maybe if you didn't post shit like this in every single post you make, people would respect you a bit more.

Every post you've made has been chock full of insults and degrading comments to every member on these boards. If they disagreed with a post you made, so fucking what? If you don't like it just go.

One could think he was trolling.. but, then it would make him a hypocrite!

On topic: Someone were complaining about English hospitals, to counter that i have to complain some about the Swedish hospitals. They are full of foreigners with broken language whom also smell fishy (literally). Then they have no skill whatsoever in detecting ilnesses, im most of the time better off making research in it myself.

 

[Lethul]

Dont worry about these tards BO, they are well known for being pedantic pieces of shit who just wanna crap over anyone posting anything they either dont agree with or have no anwer for. Especially the second poster. Well known twat

and lol at the dont reproduce comment ? least he gets the chance which is probably more than you will ever get in your entire life

Look out! they guy who has been registered for almost 2 months knows everything about the people on this forum!

Please Tiani, do me now! Am I a well known twat or something aswell?

 

[Tiani]

Look out! they guy who has been registered for almost 2 months knows everything about the people on this forum!

Please Tiani, do me now! Am I a well known twat or something aswell?

nope never seen you. sorry to dissapoint you. If you would like to start posting more, ensuring of course to piss people off and generally act like a f*cker I will be more than happy to insult you.

what difference does it make that I reg 2 months ago ? Should I keep reading the lame ass, insulting crap for another 6 months and then comment ? and that will make my posts valid ?

5 minutes 5 months who cares, a c*nt is a c*nt dont take that long to work that out

 

[Calaen]

The standard of care on the NHS is fucking superb, when my wife had Eden last year everyone on the ward excelled in every department.

In the two occasions since Eden was born that we have had her at the hospital the care and attention to detail again was amazing.

Stop bringing the whole thing down because your mother had a bad experience, there are thousands of others everyday having life changing operations without any problems.

 

[soze]

You can tell alot about a person when they say they would rather pay for health care and get better treatment. Saying poor people do not deserve Medical treatment.

I have never had a bad experiance with Hospital the worst would be when they only half did my dad Ligament operation which meant they had to go back in. But the doctor said why he did it and tbh he is the professional its his call.

 

[Azurus]

Should I keep reading the lame ass, insulting crap for another 6 months and then comment ? and that will make my posts valid ?

No i think it would be best if you just fucked off back under whatever rock you came from.

Oh and that wasn't sarcasm.

 

[Tiani]

its not like you directly pay for the treatment all the time, afaik in America they have health insurance that they pay monthly or whatever like you would for car insurance. I would much rather have a system like that IF it would mean a better level of care.

 

[Tiani]

No i think it would be best if you just fucked off back under whatever rock you came from.

Oh and that wasn't sarcasm.

I think it would be best if you threw yourself off a cliff but we dont always get what we want do we ?


oh and that wasn't sarcasm either. :worthy:

 

[Calaen]

Omg stop taking the topic OT now thats sarcasm!!!

 

[pikeh]

I think it would be best if you threw yourself off a cliff but we dont always get what we want do we ?


oh and that wasn't sarcasm either. :worthy:

Ban-worthy?

 

[Azurus]

Ban-worthy?

Ban worthy or not it still hurt my e-feelings.

 

[pikeh]

Ban worthy or not it still hurt my e-feelings.

*e-stroke*

 

[Chronictank]

its not like you directly pay for the treatment all the time, afaik in America they have health insurance that they pay monthly or whatever like you would for car insurance. I would much rather have a system like that IF it would mean a better level of care.

again that system does exist in this country, you choose not to use it

There are literally hundreds, if not throusands of companies offering it
health insurance - Google Search

Bupa, Standard Life and HSA being the bigger ones

 

[Tiani]

again that system does exist in this country, you choose not to use it

There are literally hundreds, if not throusands of companies offering it
health insurance - Google Search

Bupa, Standard Life and HSA being the bigger ones

Yes but thats different because I am still paying the same amount of Tax as everyone else who is getting healthcare for free.

Reduce my taxes to go private and thats fine by me

 

[Chronictank]

Yes but thats different because I am still paying the same amount of Tax as everyone else who is getting healthcare for free.

Reduce my taxes to go private and thats fine by me

In america the hospitals are also subsidised by the government for basic treatment, if a homeless person/imigrant etc... is hurt the hospital claims from the government

So essentially its the same thing

 

[soze]

In america the hospitals are also subsidised by the government for basic treatment, if a homeless person/imigrant etc... is hurt the hospital claims from the government

So essentially its the same thing

Actually looks like you can get limited emergancy treatment actually

It is also crucial to distinguish between a lack of insurance coverage and a lack of health care. American hospitals cannot refuse patients in need who are without insurance; roughly $100 billion is spent annually on care for such patients, above and beyond state and federal spending on Medicaid. The trouble is that most of this is emergency care, which includes both acute situations that might have been prevented and minor problems that could have been treated in a doctor’s office for considerably less money. The real problem of the uninsured poor, then, is not that they are going without care, but that their lack of regular and reliable coverage works greatly to the detriment of their family stability and physical well-being, and is also costly to government.

 

[Chronictank]

replace the word hospital with "free clinic", i was almost certain the clinics were run in the hospital

 

[Sean]

not read the thread cause BloodOmen is a complete D1CK

snapped both bones in my forarm a couple of months back... it was a drunken night, i went into hospital, yeah the waiting time was 5 hours, but this was primetime drunkern tosser time 3am saturday morning...

i was home on monday with metal plates in my arm, with a 2 month recovery period, which to be fair isnt bad is it? as i can now use my arm like i could before, only 3 months downt he line

it would of only been an overnight stay if i wasnt drunk, but saying that i wouldnt have done my arm if i wasnt drunk...

my view of the british hospitals is pretty good actually, minus the food... eww

 

[tris-]

the food is dirt but at least you can get 3 courses off a menu.

i could anyway.

 

[Huntingtons]

how will more money get better doctors? if they do a shitty job now, they will do a shitty job later.

however tiani - In the first post it is stated "Seriously though" which means the previous comment was of jest. im not sure how people keep missing that vital part. it would rather seem the English government work on its young citizens reading and comprehending skills instead of their NHS. but thats just me...

 

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

LADIES!!

Put. The. Handbags. Down!

Azurus. Be a man and own up. You were a fuck back there. Saying sarcasm doesn't change it.

The thread had RANT smothered all over, even though it didn't get marked as such in the title. There have been dozens of ranting people here that didn't get the same hatered-filled treatment as BO here.
Maybe he should've chosen his words more carefull but that doesn't chance the fact that many, many replies were way out of line.

Bugs, stop dragging that can of gasoline everywhere. It's getting old.

Huntingtons... Az's post was not clearly sarcasm.


Could go on about a couple more, but bottom line here is that the hairpulling girls here should take a chillpill. I hear valium works nicely.

 

[Lethul]

how will more money get better doctors? if they do a shitty job now, they will do a shitty job later.

however tiani - In the first post it is stated "Seriously though" which means the previous comment was of jest. im not sure how people keep missing that vital part. it would rather seem the English government work on its young citizens reading and comprehending skills instead of their NHS. but thats just me...

Huntingtons for PM in England! :england:

 

[Huntingtons]

SERIOUSLY THOUGH?!

How the fuck can that get lost to people?

your moms a slack. seriously though, she isnt.

now tell me if i mean it or not.

i got my infraction for what i said (and though i probably was crude in my post i dont think prick is infraction-deserving)

 

[fettoken]

SERIOUSLY THOUGH?!

How the fuck can that get lost to people?

your moms a slack. seriously though, she isnt.

now tell me if i mean it or not.

i got my infraction for what i said (and though i probably was crude in my post i dont think prick is infraction-deserving)

Your title says it all!

 

[Huntingtons]

kinda ironic then that i look after kids

 

[Bugz]

i got my infraction for what i said (and though i probably was crude in my post i dont think prick is infraction-deserving)

Hey - don't worry about it - I got a warning for one of my posts and it didn't have any abuse or anything. Seems certain mods are either loving BO or are on their period

 

[fettoken]

Myself, i never get any warnings.. ain't i a good boy. Goood boy, yeees youre a goood boy aint you! Go fetch!!! *throws a bone*

 

[Ch3tan]

are you living in England now, do you pay taxes, if so good, there is a complaint's process in place for this type of thing, and there are quite a few hospitals in England and to slag them all off in one fell swoop isn't really good munkey is it.


its like saying all cars are crap just because the one that you bought only gave you 15 miles per gallon.

for the one single case you base your WHOLE view on, i can give about a dozen examples of why the nhs is not a joke.

12:1, english hospitals are not a joke.

have you ever thought the advice your old doctor was given was outdated? medicine evolves hourly, new things are found out all the time. the advice you got recently maybe based on newer findings.

I'd like to rep you both, but cannot.

 

[Hawkwind]

My wife has a disease known as "Osteochondritis" which causes the articular cartilage and subchondral bone fragment separate from a joint surface (In short meaning she needs knee opperations every x years) its totally incurable and the surgeon on hand did not perform the procedure correctly. My wife has it in both knee's and has had both knee's opperated on before, the drilling part makes the stability of the knee last longer meaning it'd be MORE years before she needs the opperation done again, simply removing the bone and doing nothing else means she now needs the opperation sooner again as apose to x extra years if the surgeon had done his job correctly and drilled it.

Had the same condition myself on the Patella (knee cap). Stopped me playing rugby at age 24. Given the choice of walking when I'm 40 or be crippled for life. I had up to that point dislocated my left knee 4 time and right one twice. Luckily Waterpolo was still OK

Only thing that fixed it was a 'Lateral Release' Op. Which removed part of the bone so the cap moves more easily. They also removed all the detritis which builds up due to the condition. That was 10 years ago. I still get pain if I do too much sport. Play a full game of footy and I know it it the morning.

The surgeon I saw was in Basingstoke a guy called Neil Thomas. He does both NHS and Private work and at the time was supposed to be one of the top 3 in the UK.

Googled him and found this:

Surgeon Contact: Dr Neil P Thomas

BBC NEWS | Health | Surgeons pioneer 'hands free' technology

He's a consultant at North Hampshire - Basingstoke and If you have any private cover he does also work at the Hampshire Clinic. If your exasperated with your local hospital ask your GP to refer you to an expert like Neil.

With my lateral release I was in overnight on private basis and cost around 1500 GBP. The benefit was immediate.

 

[Elisabeth]

Let me get this straight, you didn't witness the operation. You have no idea how to perform the operation - bar the fact that you think the surgeon is supposed to drill her cartillage. You have no idea whether or not its supposed to be painful to walk on for a bit. And your wife thinks she cant walk on it?

Newsflash, you're not a dr, nor is your wife, nor are neither of you physios.
I cant comment on the Op because I dont know what was supposed to happen but operations do hurt, the reason you're supposed to walk on things as soon as possible despite the pain is to stop yourself from wasting muscle mass and stiffening up.

I fail to see how your wifes and your layman opinions about the correct medical technique of treating osteochrondritis is reason for a thread making a fool of yourself and slating all hospitals in the UK.

I'm well fined explained what and how the condition works. Also why a drilling of the cartilage is needed and why not to walk immediatly without any support.

I know what pain is and also know the difference in pain. The only thing they wanted to do first is give stronger pain relief so I wouldn't feel anything but I would walk then.

I have this for life and in both knees, so taking time to recover well and not overusing the other knee while recovering is well recommended. Every patient is different in a way. For most people the minimum treatement will work, but there are always exceptions and unfortunatly I'm one of these.