Enchanter Spec

[Aileanara]

I have just started an Enchanter, to play when I need somebody to talk too (the pet)

Anyway my "Newbie Enchater" question is this:
I want to spec the Enchanter strongly in Mana, slightly less in enchantment, with little or no points in light.
(to give a very different play style to my Void Eldritch)

but should I put points into my secondary skills earlier than level 40?
I think I should but I am not sure when to do this

I dont intend to take this character into RVR if that makes a difference?

Enchanter is currently level 6 with full Mana spec

 

[Draigo]

secondary I would say light as other classes can buff your pet I would take ench only as far as the first weapons buff "Twinkling Arms" if i remember. Then you can dmg shield/weap buff your party.

 

[Aileanara]

Thank you for the reply Draigo

So do the other peoples buffs not stack with the enchantment buffs?

Because if they do stack I would still like to go enchantment as secondary spec to get an even better pet. If not I think I will consider light then.

And to be honest I have actually been considering going almost 50/50 mana/enchantment spec.
Has anybody got any experience with this template?
This sort of cancels my first post question
"When to put points in secondary spec?"
But I would still like to know in case I stay with full Mana which I am now lvl 7 full Mana. If anybody can advise please?

 

[Chameleon]

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[parisienscot]

Shame you're not going to take him RVR enchanters are "not too bad" (he understates!!) in the frontiers

Basically I think the pet buffs you get from the enchantment spec do indeed stack with other buffs. (However I don't think the damage add stacks very well with warden damage song - ask a warden to fill you in on the details.

However - and it is a big however - don't forget that in the enchantment line you get a pet damage shield buff (which is focus based so cast it then don't move or cast or u'll break it) and if you pure spec mana this does HUGE damage - to the point where you can practically send your pet in to solo an orange and just stand there.

The fact it is focus based means that it's risky to use in rvr - you can't cast for a few seconds after you break the focus (unless you sidestep - handy hint) but if you are not doing much RVR then don't worry about it.

I'm not sure if the pet damage shield stacks properly with your normal baseline damage shield (similar to the damage add and warden song problem) so try it out on similar mobs with and without - you'll soon find out!

The damage shield makes pet get lots of aggro so you can send pet in - let it get hit a few times then walk up and pbaoe with little fear of getting aggro - as long as you don't heal your pet!!! Of course better enchantment spêc makes your heals work better but if you use this strategy you won't be healing your pet until aftercombat anyway.

Oh dear seem to have talked too long - I'll leave you to get on with it now

 

[Aileanara]

Originally posted by Ch@meleon
If you haven't been there already, visit this site

Thank you for link
But I have already posted thier aswell but no reply as yet

Also thanks to Parisienscot for the advise. I will try out the shield test you suggested

 

[matax]

Originally posted by parisienscot

I'm not sure if the pet damage shield stacks properly with your normal baseline damage shield (similar to the damage add and warden song problem) so try it out on similar mobs with and without - you'll soon find out!

It doesn't - something like having both on halves(?) the damage output. Just use the reflective damage shield in the mana spec line.

Send pet in and stick relective shield on. When mobs taken half dmg or so, move in and pbae. If your full matter, then this will be easier as you will obviously have the higher level versions. This works really well if you work in tandem with a bard or druid to buff and heal the pet and then send it in against aggro mobs. Pull several, they all beat themselves up against the pet and you finish them off with pbae - FAST xp !

and Hi Aileanara

 

[inuyasha]

either:

Mana: 48
Light: some
Enchantment a bit less.

Or:
Light 45
Mana 26.
Enchantment: 15

Enchantment is a UNBELIVABLE gimped spec.

Light reduce the cost of and increase the effectivity of stun.

Spec some or much light

Pet is on % of mana, so you cant reduce the mana it take anyways, and the buffs dont really take mana, and is even less usable in groups then the instant attack speed debuff is

You can at least break messes with it

 

[inuyasha]

yeah and

Either you spec mana or light

Spec FULL mana level 40

then spend half dings on other stuff =)

Or
If your planning on beeing a light ench
Spec full light to 35, then pump all into mana until you have 26 in it, where you work okey at fins

ONE spec point in enchantment before, means you gotta solo another level

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Base line buffs stack with Ench buffs - anything better overrides Ench buffs - I group with a druid 99% of the time.

Want to chain reds? Get a Nature specced Druid to group with you.

 

[inuyasha]

hehe

Originally posted by Uncle Sick(tm)
Base line buffs stack with Ench buffs - anything better overrides Ench buffs - I group with a druid 99% of the time.

Want to chain reds? Get a Nature specced Druid to group with you.

Way more effective maty

If you want GOOD xp for duo, spec full mana and team with a regrowth nurture druid =)

The damage shield can solo 4 oranges at the time

Tried this both with cabalist/healer and enchanter + druid.
Also tried enchanter+regrowth nurture bard, which worked more or less even better, since mana regen is in order for this group to work perfect

To chain reds is generally slow xp for a duo =) My light enchanter can chain reds alone, and duo them take unessecary long to be effective

In general, if you spec enchantmet before level 40, you have gimped yourself a little for groups ;( It MIGHT be worth it for soloing, but in my experience, it just slow you down since there is a few hell levels (like 25, before next pbaoe) which just get worse at 26 since you dont get the pbaoe then either

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Mana speccing a chanter is so 15 minutes ago...

I rolled my Light chanter last April, when there were hardly any other chanters around (and Hibernia wasn't flavor of the month then either...) - I am playing to have fun.

Not to be effective.
Not to be uber.
Not to follow some uber, cookie cutter template.

And I will keep it that way.

 

[inuyasha]

Light pwns

Originally posted by Uncle Sick(tm)
Mana speccing a chanter is so 15 minutes ago...

I rolled my Light chanter last April, when there were hardly any other chanters around (and Hibernia wasn't flavor of the month then either...) - I am playing to have fun.

Not to be effective.
Not to be uber.
Not to follow some uber, cookie cutter template.

And I will keep it that way.

I was not speaking about fun, i was speaking about good xp
I FULLY agree light spec is superiour to mana, case mana is, pure and simple, DEAD boring!

Points spec is:
45 light
26 mana
15 ench

And im very happy with it =)
And tbh...we are effective and uber, but we do not follow any template, of which i am happy =)

Still, if level fast is what you are going to do, i would follow this template:

1-20 Mana beyond ANY doubt, trees+parthans = insane xp
Now, you either keep it to 40 mana and respec there if you are planning on teaming level 20-40...OR you max light if you have been planning on soloing
Light enchanter is the one most effective solo class after they implented alchemy, so if you want to level fast and alone, this is THE spec to go.

At 40, you respec to either:

40 mana.
or
35 light
rest mana til 26..
up to 45 light
then spares on enchantment.

I would reccoment light, as i am a soloer at heart, but mana is VERY effective and your always welcome in a group as long as you are full specced, so i would really advice you too.

And...do NOT level 44 without getting 26 in mana, you need it for the fins groups you will get Get 45 light after you have 26 mana

 

[Aileanara]

Thanks for all of the replies helped me think up some more idea's.
I have now decided on what I am going to do.

What I must point out is that I dont want to level fast & sometimes I like to Solo (kinda get use to it with a void spec eldritch being my Main Char and yes void spec can be great in groups before anyone starts to go down that path of replying) And the main thing is I dont want to take this Character RvR at all (well I might for a little bit).

Ill tell you what ive done since my first post.
I went level 7 full Mana. at level 8 I put my points into Enchantment to get the strength buff for my Pet I think I will also put the next level points into enchantment to get the friend damage buff.

I think as a long term plan Im going to try something different
(ill wear the gimp badge with pride if thats what it means)
Im going to try and keep Mana at 75% level with Enchantment about 25% when (LOL if) I get to 40 ill then think possibly about 50/50 split depending how other levels went.

Again thanks for all the advise.

 

[inuyasha]

hmmmmm

Originally posted by Aileanara
Thanks for all of the replies helped me think up some more idea's.
I have now decided on what I am going to do.

What I must point out is that I dont want to level fast & sometimes I like to Solo (kinda get use to it with a void spec eldritch being my Main Char and yes void spec can be great in groups before anyone starts to go down that path of replying) And the main thing is I dont want to take this Character RvR at all (well I might for a little bit).

Ill tell you what ive done since my first post.
I went level 7 full Mana. at level 8 I put my points into Enchantment to get the strength buff for my Pet I think I will also put the next level points into enchantment to get the friend damage buff.

I think as a long term plan Im going to try something different
(ill wear the gimp badge with pride if thats what it means)
Im going to try and keep Mana at 75% level with Enchantment about 25% when (LOL if) I get to 40 ill then think possibly about 50/50 split depending how other levels went.

Again thanks for all the advise.

You still going split spec? ;(
Sad to hear that you are deaf

DITCH enchantment! hehe =)
Nothing to do with powerplay or level fast or be effective in rvr or anything, its just plain pointless Remember you can respec to 20, and i fully reccomend you to full spec either line

I also had a void eldrich..they ARE gimped at groups, but pretty decent for soloing and rvr