Eldritch spec?

[flisa]

i have an lvl 37 mana eldritch and thinking of respecing to void or light... witch one are the better in RvR?

plz help me

edit: argh so confused.. some say light is best others say void.. i wanna be able to take down any char.. so its light or void?

 

[Tyka]

Imo, best in rvr, is Light, but go mana if u wanna be "tha bomb" like 141354135 other hibs.

 

[oblivion_6]

I personally feel that void is better but thats mainly coz i aint played the other type

Im wokring on gettin void to 46 and then rest in light to get 3rd aoe mezz

in rvr pbaoe would do more dmg however its damn sight more risky whereas aoe can be cast with a wee bit of safety

 

[Aussie-]

without a warden and/or a druid that is willing to give you some instaheals you're just useless in my eyes.
every alb/mid knows now ( I hope ) they have to go for the casters first. If you're so kind you come to us..... tnx =)

 

[oblivion_6]

if a lv 50 qc two DDs at any charcter (unless maybe sheild spec) they will be dead or 80% down at least, majority of caster hide withint a grp of tanks so peeps like u cant get em

 

[Danya]

Light, you get nearsight.
And Aussie, generally sensible casters go in a full group.

 

[Lessurl]

As i see it you have two options, void 46 rest light.
This gives you 45% range debuff, 21 sec aoe mez, the bolts, ranged aoe, gtaoe, some annoying to use single target debuffs (only really use these pve and only the energy one)
Downside to this is no spec dd, so you are stuck with the slow cast void one or if you can get your hands on a few +light items you can use the slightly mana intensive but fast casting baseline light ones. (i personally use light and think they work fine for taking down opponents, need a few good ra's tho like serenity and mcl etc. to keep your mana going tho as they really munch it)

Or you could spec light 47 mana 26 This gives 65% range debuff, 31 sec aoe mez, the spec light dd (low mana cost and good damage) a dex/qui debuff and the mana pts gives you a decent pbaoe for stealther uncovering and using in xp grps.


imo (feel free to disagree) spec one is more suited for killin mages from range, whereas spec 2 is more geared towards killin up close.
The choice is yours.

 

[cyan_daoc]

light is good all around ..drops tanks , stealthers and mages (2 to 4 DDs though)

ae mez is a bit crap but sometimes useful when you get few tanks on you ..qc mez , stun , nuke to death ( and hope they dont have purge)

nearsight just rocks ..no need to explain it

and to those who just want dmg and rather choose void or mana -> i can dd even con enemies for 400-600 depending on their cold resist , and casting time nearly 1.5s with good buffs

I have nothing bad to say about light (except cold dmg has to be the worst dmg type) so im wondering why so few respecced to light ( if any )

 

[old.Charonel]

well personally if i was full mana and actually wanted to respec out of it i'd go 46void, rest light and just make sure i have the first pbaoe for a hastle free destealther (you would need to keep aiming gtaoe unless you can target it on yourself anyway, in which cast pbaoe would not be needed), why? simple, there's something to be gained from maxing void, on the other hand you can gain pretty much everything from light by taking it as a secondary spec, only thing you miss is the uber DD ,

so it'd come down to a choice between having a single target uber DD with full light, or two bolts (baseline one would be useless unless high void as you know), a ranged aoe DD, and gtaoe with full void, simple enough choice since you get everything else to a usable lvl anyway whichever you spec, but if you really enjoy the idea of the uber DD then go light anyway

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by oblivion_6
if a lv 50 qc two DDs at any charcter (unless maybe sheild spec) they will be dead or 80% down at least, majority of caster hide withint a grp of tanks so peeps like u cant get em

I guess you mean void bolts here. Sadly even without my shield out a level 50's bolt hits my minstrel for under 400. 2 hits is going to be under 800 which is not even close to 80%. With a shield out (even unspecced) it's going to be half that (if I see a bolt incoming I tend to get my shield out ). Don't expect to bolt anyone but mages for good damage.

 

[oblivion_6]

hmmm minstrels aint ever killed one of them lol that might be why


but naw most of my rvr has been in DF and i can down lv 50 highlanders by doing this but they might be weaker

Ive heard things bout minstrels are u not like mega massively uber characters?

hmm me thinks ill go on to pyr and start one hee hee

Any tips? lol

 

[old.giriam]

Originally posted by oblivion_6
if a lv 50 qc two DDs at any charcter (unless maybe sheild spec) they will be dead or 80% down at least

if you dont know what you are talking about its usually a good idea to dont. (talk that is).

G

 

[oblivion_6]

eh?

this is exacltly what i have seen so why would i not know about it?

I cant say what the char who was attacked had on him (buffs, debuffs or whatever but its true

Maybe he got crit hits or something i dunno but it did happen m8

what lv r u? can u not do it ? Im not high enough to do it myself lol

 

[old.giriam]

Originally posted by cyan_daoc

and to those who just want dmg and rather choose void or mana -> i can dd even con enemies for 400-600 depending on their cold resist , and casting time nearly 1.5s with good buffs

there is a hardcap on cast times set to 2.0 seconds, nothing will make you go below this be that RA's, buffs, dex from items or whatever.

that being said, yes; lightspecc is what gives the best DD damage over time in hibernia, only its the baseline light DD that actually comes out on top if you do the numbers. (lower basedamage but less resist and faster casts).

G

 

[Tyka]

Originally posted by old.giriam


there is a hardcap on cast times set to 2.0 seconds, nothing will make you go below this be that RA's, buffs, dex from items or whatever.

Hate to correct you but hardcap on cast times is 1.5, i got logs and will post them later if you want.

 

[spankya]

Flisa... u got the usual dilemna I think... void and light r both better than mana for rvr, but as all void and light mages will tell u, u have alot more problems getting groups compared mana spec especially after lvl40. I have a mana spec eld too, and would prefer a void spec eld, but cant be bothered with all the lvling hassle. Void spec elds get more exp groups than lightspec elds.

 

[old.giriam]

Originally posted by oblivion_6
eh?

this is exacltly what i have seen so why would i not know about it?
I cant say what the char who was attacked had on him (buffs, debuffs or whatever but its true
Maybe he got crit hits or something i dunno but it did happen m8
what lv r u? can u not do it ? Im not high enough to do it myself lol

so you once saw a guy drop another guy with 2 dd's and from that you got "can drop any other char with 2 dds".

G

 

[oblivion_6]

Yes fair enough then they can drop certain chars and i know it wasnt a caster

Man ur so picky lol

 

[old.giriam]

Originally posted by Tyka


Hate to correct you but hardcap on cast times is 1.5, i got logs and will post them later if you want.

seriously? all official info and logs ive read says 2.0 but if you got the logs and can to post them that would be good.

G

 

[old.giriam]

Originally posted by oblivion_6
Yes fair enough then they can drop certain chars and i know it wasnt a caster

Man ur so picky lol

the difference is pretty major

G

 

[oblivion_6]

only if u take this game seriously enough to feel pain physically when you make a mistake in it lol

/sit with hammer ready to whack torso if attacked

 

[old.Niljindil]

Originally posted by old.giriam


seriously? all official info and logs ive read says 2.0 but if you got the logs and can to post them that would be good.

G

The official info is incorrect, mythic hardly plays their own game(thats just a guess, but its fun to be able to say it , about how much mythic play i mean), i know the hardcap is below 2.0, and since melee hardcap is 1,5 its quite safe to assume that spells are capped at that also(since noone has ever reached the cap with a spell, the lowest i have seen is 1,6ish).

But anyway, there was smite cleric(note, an enhance cleric would cast faster than this even, as ive seen other logs prove) posting logs of him using his small heals(2,6 or something like that cast time) fully buffed and with mastery of the art 2(mythic has said that all RAs surpass caps, EXCEPT moa, but hang on). The results were if i recall correctly 17 spell casts over 30 seconds, which is something like 1,75ish.

Unfortunately this was posted right after the grab bag that said that the cap was 2 seconds, and VNboards doesn't have a search function, so i can't find the post.

 

[old.giriam]

Originally posted by old.Niljindil

But anyway, there was smite cleric(note, an enhance cleric would cast faster than this even, as ive seen other logs prove) posting logs of him using his small heals(2,6 or something like that cast time) fully buffed and with mastery of the art 2(mythic has said that all RAs surpass caps, EXCEPT moa, but hang on). The results were if i recall correctly 17 spell casts over 30 seconds, which is something like 1,75ish.

ok, thats nice to know.

this info makes the slow DD casters even worse..

G

 

[Danya]

Usp a mana chanter on prydwen has managed about 1.8s on his PBAE so under 2 secs is definitely possible.

Ive heard things bout minstrels are u not like mega massively uber characters?

Not really, but minstrel epic does have the best set of resists of any epic armour I think. I did have 32% cold unbuffed on my minstrel (nerfed to 30% now due to epic armour changes).

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by spankya
Flisa... u got the usual dilemna I think... void and light r both better than mana for rvr, but as all void and light mages will tell u, u have alot more problems getting groups compared mana spec especially after lvl40. I have a mana spec eld too, and would prefer a void spec eld, but cant be bothered with all the lvling hassle. Void spec elds get more exp groups than lightspec elds.

You can get grps ok with light spec if you take the 26 mana first then begin to raise light. This way you will have a decent pbaoe to use in xp grps