Eldritch Fanatic

[old.Wicoa]

Hi fellow hib's,

I am a complete eld fanatic so all you eld geeks need info hard and fast.

I have a mana eld, fun in groups but quite poo solo and therefore rely on groups.

I also have a void eld, a beauty of a long range nuke, solo's nicely and I heard 40+ is a nightmare to get a group with.

I know a bit about a light eld, mezz, dd, hinder sight and dex etc.

Which eld do you play, what are your experiences. I want to take mana to 50 and void to 50 for each of my chars.

Is this a good idea or is there a nice mixture that you guy's know about that I don't.

cheers
Nutty eld fan, hmmm webpage on elds might come soon.

 

[Lessurl]

Well i can tell you my experiences as a void eld. Very good for lower lvls as you can solo kill tasks and other mobs with ease. But once soloing starts to be less of a viable option u start to get into trouble. We don't have as good a dd as light elds, so not as good as them against single mobs (bolts need los, so we can't use our best spell when grped). And in multi mobs pull our aoe (we do have one yes, some people don't seem to know that ) isn't as powerful as the mana elds one. This means that in groups we aren't as popular as the other 2. After 40 (stiiill haven't got there) it gets even worse as pbaoe become the standard way to get good xp. I personally have had to solo about 35 of my 38 lvls worth of xp, only gettin a measely 3 lvls worth in grps.
But if u can persevere, void elds kick ass in rvr. Our bolts are long range and can do massive damage. It's always satisfying watchin an orange con enemy caster falling after only one bolt.

 

[old.Wicoa]

My mana eld can never find any groups tho, its so frustrating. Plus I have a 4X scout on Prydwen Albion and I am used to being told to get lost in groups hehe, not much of a change there.

 

[Ambidexterous]

I have a void eld with the next spec: 46 void 26 mana 10 light

A versatile and fun spec imo.

U get all voidbolts, one of the best ae dd the 1st nearsight/mezz from light and ensnaring blast, disease,pbae from mana.

The pbae is good enough to be 2nd pbae in any xpgrp, the snare/disease are great in 1vs1 duels. And i think the rest is obvious.

Speccing full in one spec will give you some extra dmg but will soon leave u with a boring char that can only do one thing while with a more spread out spec u'll be usefull in various situations and make the game much more fun to play.

 

[old.Wicoa]

thats a good spec cheers buddy

mana eld deleted too many of em one main void eld now,

When should I switch to mana with mini dings?

 

[old.Takahome]

mmmMMM? Mana eld without group??!!

Try a bit harder to find a group, once ppl know that u can nuke with 1 initial tank hit and draw none aggro dealing full load of damage they´ll luv u. Ask how many mana eld/chanter r there and without group... (relatively higher ppl no n00bs w/o any idea, yes they existed... found load of em with my alt... pretty frustrating...)

IMO atm voiders r incredibles r vs r, but I´m worried about how the resistance will affect r vs r HUGELY with 1.48... and ppl saying (USA version) that void sux due to the reduce damage of bolts (HIGH cold resistance out of there and in EAs) and not other utilities... I´m pretty sure when EA comes our damage reduction will be v big. Last nite with my 48 pbaoe I made 450 (-130) damage My damage can be as high as 600 w/o any resistance (cold) to a lvl 50, that´s pretty nice, tanks die in 2 hit (lvl 45+ armswoman) or 3 hit, just /face qc mez step on him and stun + multiple pbaoe, but if the resistance kicks in, and u can´t finish a tank in 10 sec u r pretty more died (if u r mana chanter it won´t happen, nor after 1.48), yeah voiders can make damage with DD, but if u really wanna DD, why do u choose void not light? Bolts sux in an 8 group, I´ve seen load of situation even in 1.36 (BETA) with my own void eldritch.

Not any offense to any void eldritch, they r GREAT now r vs r, being a mana eldri the only thing I found extremely easy is lvling And btw after lvl 40 lvling mana > void > light coz light has got 0 AE spell, and in a pbaoe team (most used) it´s pretty hard to find a spot (though I´m yet to c a light spec eldri past 40+... they r rarer than BMs ) And my role in r vs r is hard, but really happy when ur tank engage others and u step in, load of corpse around u, and those dumb enemy tanks can´t target u fast enough having targetted ur tank first, and when they do that, they r mostly died already Hell mana has got a RANGED ae too

IMO 46 void 26 light´s one of the best template r vs r atm, yet to c how will the resistance affect us, yes they WILL, in vnboard.ign.com there some SS of a bolt dealy xxx (-200) damage vs a fire wizard and that one returned him a bolt with infinity-1 damage

 

[Ambidexterous]

I was playing from start, so untill lvl 40 noone on europe even knew about pbaegrps.

I just specced mana once in a few lvls keeping it on 50% of lvl. Since lvl 35 i've been doing pbae grps and haven't had any problems with pbaeing high purp mobs.

If u want to spec for grps i'd say start with mana around 30 so u have a good enough pbae to add something to the xpgrp's.

If ur past lvl 40 just spec on minidings and get ur mana to 26 for rvr.

Oh and yes resists will cut big time in our dmg, thats why i plan on light/mana respec asap

 

[Novamir]

Machiavelli has 50 light

and i can tell you he has unbelieveable power.. with blue dex his DD hits something like every 1.5secs, i've never seen anyone drop enemies faster

 

[foolou]

elds in high-lvl-groups

I really can't see a grouping advantage for mana-elds.

Ok with mana-mages (mana-chanter, mana-eld) you can group really good with the conventional fighter/healer/nuker combo.

Most gamers here in Hibernia don't seem to know that different group-combinations can also work out really good.
Start a group with 7 ranged attackers ( all kind of casters or ranger ) and a bard (for confusion or if necessary mezz) and you will see that fast xp doesn't need a pbaoe-mage and that rangers or void-elds can build really cool groups.

I would wish that high-lvl-gamers would be a little more open for other approaches than those they are used to.

Second (different topic) : it's a pity that most casters i've met don't seem to care about monster resistances .. some light-elds using their shadow-control-DD on pookas which does cold-damage, while they could also cast their light-baseline-DD which would get a damage-bonus.
I'm using my light-baseline-DD always on all weak heat resisters ( most animals, trees) although i'm mainly void-specced and it really rocks.

 

[old.Takahome]

Just got lvl 50, paired with a mana chanter at lvl 49 now (Sua), ask the ppl I´ve been groupped if the EVEN xped faster. The only xp faster than my fin group´s knights group, but with a couple of dozen time dealing with LD, "Oops gotta go" speech, u´ll get feed up v fast.

Btw if ranged attack u CAN´T kill 3 prps FAST ENOUGH (with luck u can kill em, but u know wot´s the ranged AE damage of a voider) period. And if one of em touch u, u r mostly died, that´s not any reliable nor mana wiseble, I´ve been hit to 50 with no mana regen (tonite), and my group still owns with xp. The only complaint I got is when we leave

The things may change with new debuffs, so far my damage on a single fin without critical´s 825, and sua´s without critical is 925 (wooot) both with last lvl debuff, it just rocks! So u can debuff a mob and then nuke it till oblivion (sp?) with ur nuke... but since u can´t debuff cold and none mana spec chanter will get into a ranged group... things r tougher that it seems on paper ^_^

Ranged group, pure melee groups r all good on paper, but a group without sb dealing SERIOUS damage (u c the damage above, that´s vs 3-4 fins) is not a good enough group.

 

[old.Takahome]

Talking about mana usage, I´m yet to be the downtime of the group, most time it´s healers lom, V few time it´s some serious rez sick (like post a 2 g.p pull hehe)

IMO mana is the way to lvl, my mate´s still got the record of being lvl 43+ with 11 day /played and not single xp powerlvled. My /played is 22d 20h with 2d 20h minimun lost doing senseless things... maybe 5d more lost due to un-experienced, but can´t really complain

Just to add, LIGHT eldritchs r AWESOME! The best out of there according to vault.ign and many more forums (yeah I read indeed to much :sleeping: ) /whisper I wanna respec to light like machiavelli

To novamir: Today I managed to kill 7 albs in crim assault, they r all from a same group, in about 10-15 sec all dropped, with log checked, all said you just killed XXX, and that´s 7 yellow/blue cons, with 2 minstrels and 2 mages Must be funny to have in a screen XXX was just killed by <your name> 7 times and all in a row because it´s FAST ^_^ (still wanna be light eldri )

 

[foolou]

ranged groups

I was with groups (~lvl41/42) that killed 3 purple BWs in Bog without Tank or mana-pbaoe ... and it was usually safe.
A good bard can easily mezz the adds and those BWs died fast.

All i want to say is ... don't judge things you didn't see or test yourself.

Nice thing is that with 1.48 my void/light eld got a lot more power. My bolts now do damage again (250 before patch, 400 now).
So my solo-XP has become really insane compared to what i got before.
And i'm eager to find out what damage i'll do at lvl 50 even if i'll have more playtime or still do less damage than you.

 

[old.Takahome]

I´ve saw ur group remember? ^_^

Meanswhile we were killing banshees, the only downtime we have is to move around. Trust me, with lvl 45+ lvling´s even more slower, but with the patch it´s faster (at least it´s stated in patch notes) lvling, u all lucky

Btw, I´m seriously doubting the effects of resistance chant/buff have got low impact... Yesterday nite, I´ve done to a cleric 225 (-127) x 4 times with lvl 50 DD, yes a lvl 50 DD only dealing some stupid damage, after stun wear off that cleric used insta, though I don´t know why since he had more than 1/2 hp yet And spudgie was doing that much with lvl 47 void DD... When EA hits in, I´m sure the void bolt will got a hard time, though mana pbaoe will be energy I´ll r vs r a bit more and c how the resistance effect me, atm -127 isn´t that much compared with USA... But it´s pretty bad doing that to a yellow con, since a tank can do the same... (mm respec... mm light )

Anyway, u spell once to hit one mob, and me spell once to hit 3-4 once, I´ve tried one mob kill with pbaoe, still mana efficent, but not that much if u can hit 3 with SAME damage, aka HIGH ^_^
Btw BWs r by far the easiest mob... can´t remember how much can I do to them at ur lvl, I tnk it´s about 500 and mine´s not a bolt, bolt got blocked, meleed, missed, resisted etc

 

[Spudgie]

Arthywn I think his name was.

It took about 8 casts of a 47 void DD to bring him down, doing 236(-131) damage, EVERY cast. He did con orange to me though.

Used ALOT of mana on him, roughly 40% of my tank.

 

[Spudgie]

It was Arthwyr a level 50 paladin, and i thought they were supposed to be gimped

 

[foolou]

resistances and rvr

Mana-chanters are really lucky with this patch. They got a cold-resistance debuff in their mana-line now, could help against those nasty clerics.

Finally, after admitting that mana-pbaoe is fastest xp possible, what do you expect me to do ?

Start all over with a mana-mage? no way

Well lets say it's the difference of those who want to have fun with a game and those who try to play it pro-style.

I like to sit chatting somewhere in frontier at a nice spawning spot, crafting in downtime and killing a mob from time to time, i don't know if i could do this being a manamage.

And a big advantage of void : it's so cool seeing your void-bolts flying towards your victim and then finishing it with dets .. a lot better than getting epileptic-attacks everytime you nuke your mob

I'm trying to find ways for my eld to get xp and ranged groups are one good oportunity to do so, because i'll never get into one of these pbaoe-groups.
And all i expect from other players is to stay open minded and test out unusual group combinations because it's a lot of fun.
I'm tired of those 'without a tank we can't kill anything' guys without any imagination power.

Ever tried a 6 shades 1 eld combo with simultainous backstabb-envenom attack and stun after backstabb to let poison work ?
Me neither .. but i really would like to test that.

 

[Spudgie]

I'd like to point out that Void AoE gets a bonus to damage on nearly all the popular BAF mobs, sibs, BW, RW, fins + glimmer knights.

 

[old.Takahome]

With this patch u r not that useless in a pbaoer group, make sure u grab 1-2 mana CHANTER and u r fine. Energy debuffs r AWESOME! Since mana chanter now hit harder, faster, why do u need a mana eldri if u can´t find one? Just use a voider

Oh and debuff´s got no lvl restriction, so once it´s set, it´s done

 

[old.Takahome]

OT: spud, u r luckier than me... I was shooting a cleric omg, can´t kill one of those now, be4 1.48 it´s still doable, now I´m afraid no way unless u r light eldritch... even with that u´ll use load of mana with base line heat spell, since cold resistance´s out of the hand...

And as I read, heat resistance seems to do nothing vs alb wizzard´s big bolt... wanna be happy playing DAOC? play in albion...

 

[Spudgie]

btw I got a 50% energy resist debuff now so watch your pbaoe damage shoot up when i hit someone/something with that

 

[old.Takahome]

Mine´s still cold

Yet to wait some new patch to change that damn spell to energy