Earth Wizards

[Balbor]

Nearly all wizards i see are Fire or Ice spec, are there any full Earth Spec Wizards out there. I'm thinking of starting one, going 48 in Earth and rest in Fire, that would give me 3 bolts (Best Earth, Base Fire and mid Fire spec) 3 AOE nukes (2 top Earth, and 1 mid fire spec). I hear that not may people bother with matter resist opting for Ice, spirit and Fire, so Earth specs should be able to do more damage in RvR. Anyone got any first hand experance they can give me.

P.S. why are alb classing having there unique spec lines nerfed

 

[sru]

also

You will get the GTAoE .. powerful stuff for keep defense/attack

 

[ivan_tribbiani]

But i dont think the damages can be compared to that of Ice PBAoE though, so you might have to spend all your mana spamming the GTAoE and achieve nought. <i cant recall correctly but its either (125 vs 350) or (250 vs 350), Earth AoE vs Ice PBAoE respectedly.

Although i may be very wrong on this

 

[andrilyn]

Level with fire/ice spec, then respec to earth at lvl 40, with fire/ice spec you level way faster then with earth spec, wont really suggest it unless you have alot of patience.

 

[agraucred]

im considering earth for my PvP server wizard. also, as far as im aware you can only have 2 bolts, i was sure 2 of them ran off the same timer (though i could be wrong, that was back when wizards became capable of critical hits and when i actually played Olorin). ive also heard that earth spec wizards get some major Mythic love at some point. weather they have or not yet i dont know. but they do get a mezz spell and some improved damage if the sources i have heard from are correct. Ice does seem the better option really, but at least speccing earth is different, ive never seen an earth wizard.

 

[Taggart]

Earth spec sounds cool and with 1.51 i think they get a root, DOT and a bolt or damage shield i think which is nice.

 

[sru]

Originally posted by ivan_tribbiani
But i dont think the damages can be compared to that of Ice PBAoE though, so you might have to spend all your mana spamming the GTAoE and achieve nought. <i cant recall correctly but its either (125 vs 350) or (250 vs 350), Earth AoE vs Ice PBAoE respectedly.
Although i may be very wrong on this

Its not the damage so much as the interrupt. You can stop hib casters sitting in the lords room spamming pbaoe! Or you can sit a long way behind the doot and 2-3 of you can cast on the attackers. Keeps healers short of mana and will, over time, kill loads.

 

[old.Vae]

Rumble is a lvl 50 Earth wizard and the only one in the top ten Wizards. I think Meepthor is the only Ice wizard in the top ten - the other 8 are all Fire I believe.

 

[Levin the Blue]

Tera is (was?) a season 50 Earth wizard. Missed by me, at least.

 

[Balbor]

Earth Wizards are the only Alb casters with a ATaoe, i think lots of Runemasters have it, they also get a AOE nuke/snare. ATM albs are quite pour at Keep defence/attack because of our lack of shout mezzes and Stuns. All a healer or bard had to do is look over/up on the wall and instent mezz/stun nearly all the people on the door (or on the battlements), then rain down a load of Damaging/ debuffing/DOT spells. I've found that Mids/hibs are at there most vunrible when they are attacking the second door and some of there pets are inside attacking the door. They can be targeted with AOE spells and you hit all the people on the door as well, that will then force the healers to start healing. I think i wizard can get people through the door but that mean Hib/Mid with BTAOE can get them ass well. I think Earth Wizards could get the from a safe distence.

 

[j000 d000d]

Spam GTAoE?

It's on a 6 second timer with a 4 second casting time, good luck trying to spam that

 

[DocWolfe]

from what someone told me, and I know there is 1 full earth spec wiz (forgot name tho ) all their spells are ae, which makes it hard for soloing

 

[Sharma]

Originally posted by Balbor
Nearly all wizards i see are Fire or Ice spec

only ever counted 3 ice wizards when i was in alb...

 

[Rumble]

Hello there, being a fully specced ('Gimped' say the Avalonians) lvl 50 Briton Earth Wizzy here are a few insights that might help.

First of all do exactly what Andrilyn suggested. Use Fire or Ice lines then respec to Earth. Every spec Earth spell is Area Effect and I have had to use the base Fire/Ice DD for leveling up (way less damage than Fire/Ice spec). Mind you at lvl 40+ the Earth AE Snare is a fast way to level up on the Tanglers. At lvl 47+ you can practically solo the Aqua Tanglers but by that time you are so close to 50 it doesn't really matter except for the WOW factor.

Lava bolt, on paper, is weaker than the Fire spec bolt but its resistance is different (Heat vs Matter or is it Heat vs Energy?....something like that) thus it seems to do more damage than Fire bolts on certain targets. In RvR bolts are practically useless to all casting wizzys, 9 times out of 10 my bolts are blocked even when the target is clearly not in combat (something that is being fixed in a future patch I believe). That said having 2 nice bolts when it is fixed will be a godsend. Blam, Blam, thanks for the RP's.

Character choice is an interesting one, Avalonians apparently get targeted quickly because they are so damn obvious. In my RvR experience it doesn’t really matter, I created the shortest Briton Wizzy for more HP's and to be less noticeable but its made bugger all difference because I still get targeted really really quickly and none of the safety barrier tanks I surround myself pays any attention.

Stealthers are the bane of my existence and it doesn’t take long for some git to get some free RP's from killing me. The only defense I currently have is a quickcast Root and run and those few extra Briton HP's sometimes save my life.

As for the future 1.52 patch we get a groovy AE Root which is nice, a nice Damage over Time that should kill lots and lots of single targets and a Ground Targeted Area of Effect which turns Earth wizzys into walking catapults. Expect to see me face down a lot more often in keep defense/attack as im picked out for using that particular spell.

As things stand I enjoy RvR a lot when it comes to keep defense/attack because my current AE Snare is quite fun, im the dashingly handsome little Briton jumping up and down to see over the Hib/Mid walls (Alb walls are shockingly poor for casters). The AE Snare is sometimes useful in open play as well, a couple of well timed AE's really slows a zerg, but im getting tired of not having an Earth/Ice focus staff for when someone AE Mez/Roots and I have to switch to single DD. Earth is all AE and switching staffs mid fight isn’t much fun.

Going off track a bit but I remember one instance of a 2 man team meeting 20+ odd Mids on a zerg run from Hurb to Surs, after me and Meepthor got over the initial shock I managed to squeeze off 2 AE Snares, died, then Meep got 2 PBAoE's off and killed 2 of the zerg before he was ganked. Only later did I discover he was pressing the wrong button If I had the AE root back then who knows what could have happened (probably not a lot).


So to summarise.....

Leveling to 50 is 10 times worse without having a specced DD, and being an underpowered mana eating Briton doesn’t help either but with the upcoming patch the AE Snare/AE Root will compliment each other nicely in group levelling and the DoT will help soloing up.

Keep defence/attack is great fun but the biggest problem is getting there safely so find some nice minstrel's to taxi you about.

Getting to use AE in RvR is so much fun and isn’t that what really counts in the end

 

[ivan_tribbiani]

Originally posted by old.Teador
Spam GTAoE?

It's on a 6 second timer with a 4 second casting time, good luck trying to spam that

spam as in cast repeatedly till you run out

 

[sru]

Originally posted by old.Teador
Spam GTAoE?

It's on a 6 second timer with a 4 second casting time, good luck trying to spam that

Err ... 3-4 Earth wizzies regularly hold off 50-100 mids on US servers by just that. Yes, it is slow but more than 2 makes big difference.

 

[VidX]

Originally posted by sru


Err ... 3-4 Earth wizzies regularly hold off 50-100 mids on US servers by just that. Yes, it is slow but more than 2 makes big difference.

Well then Middies on the US servers are silly

GTAoE will have one use: keep defence.

No other use will be effective.

Anyone who wants to argue, feel free to let me know the arguments and I'll come up for a way round the use

 

[ivan_tribbiani]

Originally posted by vidx


Well then Middies on the US servers are silly

GTAoE will have one use: keep defence.

No other use will be effective.

Anyone who wants to argue, feel free to let me know the arguments and I'll come up for a way round the use

Doh theres always a way round, dont give Usp any more food for thought hes ewul !!!!

 

[ivan_tribbiani]

For example a way round this situation :

You see Mids closing in they outnumber you 10-1


The way round it would be :

Turn the feck round and hit that sprint button hoping to reach the PK in time

 

[Balbor]

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Originally posted by vidx


Well then Middies on the US servers are silly

GTAoE will have one use: keep defence.

No other use will be effective.

Anyone who wants to argue, feel free to let me know the arguments and I'll come up for a way round the use
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AMG/MMG/HMG stand offs of course

 

[old.Bubble]

hehe PBAOE only really has usein keep defence
Mana enchanters main tool in RvR is there fire debuff (which makes the baseline nukes hit as hard as the Light spec nuke :/ )

 

[Balbor]

So, is it a good idea to spec Ice and then fire and respec Ice to Earth at Level 40+ ?

PS were can i get a list of classes current spell lists, the only ones i can find are the US ones

 

[old.SadonTheGrey]

As far as I know, the 40+ ice wizards here are

Me (Gelid)
Meepthor
Graendal
Vast
Furtive

There may be more, I'm not sure

 

[old.SadonTheGrey]

BTW, don't spec ice for lvling, past 30, everyone wants fire wizards it seems and ice ones start to lag behind... albion just doesn't want us to use pbaoe for some reason.... then again, if you can find a theurg and possible another ice wizard, tangs are a joy to play with

 

[Taggart]

Thikn ya missed out a good ice wiz, Grath from LoE is lvl 50 i think and when i used to do withers with him he used to do uber damage to those worms

 

[VidX]

Originally posted by Balbor
quote:
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Originally posted by vidx


Well then Middies on the US servers are silly

GTAoE will have one use: keep defence.

No other use will be effective.

Anyone who wants to argue, feel free to let me know the arguments and I'll come up for a way round the use
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AMG/MMG/HMG stand offs of course

Nope, the use for the pbaoe at milegate stand-offs was negated when doors became aoe targetable. Only a few times have I been able to pull off an effective milegate defence with pbaoe since then

 

[VidX]

Originally posted by ivan_tribbiani
For example a way round this situation :

You see Mids closing in they outnumber you 10-1


The way round it would be :

Turn the feck round and hit that sprint button hoping to reach the PK in time

That's called the Albion Dance

 

[ivan_tribbiani]

Originally posted by vidx


That's called the Albion Dance

Ewul Usp !!!

You'll Pay !!!

 

[VidX]

Originally posted by old.Bubble
hehe PBAOE only really has usein keep defence

I don't think so.

In fact, I know so

/me waves to silly Armsmen who insist they can always melee me to death without me blowing them away in 5 casts.

Mana enchanters main tool in RvR is there fire debuff (which makes the baseline nukes hit as hard as the Light spec nuke :/ )

Yeah, it's the reason why I advise people to spec Mana rather thanm Light. Granted, the damage range will be bigger, but the max damage is about the same.

I don't really like Earth Wizzies, silly resists aren't high enough

 

[Luuna]

Matter resist is really easy to get in Hib btw. With just my epic armour I get +20 matter resist, that's not including items.