News DWP : Someone made a boo-boo

[cHodAX]

This is borderline criminal if proven (and it looks like it is with DWP admitting it has happened to a degree), tricking vunerable claimants into invalidating their claim just so managers can hit targets that haven't even been set by governement. Some cnuts need to be fired for this fiasco, yes we need to lower welfare claims dramatically but not by cheating people who are in real need and have viable claims.

Government admits Jobcentres set targets to take away benefits | Politics | guardian.co.uk

 

[megadave]

it's a tough situation, there must be hundreds of thousands of people who can work but can't be bothered to find a job or just don't want one

 

[cHodAX]

it's a tough situation, there must be hundreds of thousands of people who can work but can't be bothered to find a job or just don't want one

You are being generous mate, I would say probably a million upwards but we should be identifying the bogus claims as many DWP offices are doing instead of cheating the innocent like those offices mentioned in the articles. As I said before, this is borderline criminal as benefits are a right given a valid claim.

 

[rynnor]

A third of people of working age dont work and are on some kind of benefit - its a disaster that has been decades in the making.

The unemployment figure only measures people after 6 months and stops at 2 years so its just a fudge.

 

[rynnor]

As I said before, this is borderline criminal as benefits are a right given a valid claim.

They are only getting tough on applying the terms of the contract people sign to get jobseekers - it may be distastefull but its clearly not illegal.

 

[cHodAX]

They are only getting tough on applying the terms of the contract people sign to get jobseekers - it may be distastefull but its clearly not illegal.

Read the article, they were boxing vunerable claimants into a corner until they got flustered made a mistake and then punished with sanction for it. That is not getting tough on the terms of contract, it is being forced to hit sanction figures at any cost.

 

[ilaya]

my claim for incapacity benefit (as it was before election) is about 13 months old old and going to independent claims who are not liable to govt rules or regulations. this has included a period of 5 MONTHS without a single PENNY as they tried to force me to drop the claim and force me onto JSA.

here's an interesting fact about the rules on that shit. you need 10 points to have a claim because of mental health issues. the maximum you can score is 6. its fucked up.

 

[old.Tohtori]

They do love their sanctions don't they

I've had zero problems with the agencies, but it's simply due to not making mistakes and being friendly(read: not an arguing stunt). And ofcourse Finland being rather fair on these things.

Agree that there are people who shouldn't get any help as they don't even try, but then have to ask why that is also.

Messed up though, any time, that figures are used to decide lives.

On the other hand, i would get it out of necessity, but this is probably greed.

(Bit of assuming there)

 

[Jiggs]

Ironic since benefits are just a bribe not to commit crime.

 

[kiliarien]

Ironic since benefits are just a bribe not to commit crime.

How very accurate. Sad as it is.

 

[rynnor]

Ironic since benefits are just a bribe not to commit crime.

Not to rise up against the establishment I think - it prevents a serious uprising.

 

[Roalith]

I had to give up work last August, signed off with long-term depression, handed a bunch of anti-depressants by a largely uncaring GP, etc etc.

Fast forward, 3 months on ESA (Employment and Support Allowance), I got told to go to an assessment of my 'ability to work'. Despite having a long-term note from the doc's, and an independent assessment from a community mental health team, the 'assessment' essentially comprised the assessor entering '0' in all fields, often in direct contradiction to statements I had made.

So, I get told to go over to Jobseeker's (Which was for the same amount of money as the ESA, £65 a week which is laughable when you're used to earning £400+ a week...). Like a good little drone, I went along with it and didn't bother contesting the ESA assessment, and signed up for an interview.

Interview seems to go perfectly fine, on a Wednesday (2nd February). I get told to come back in two week's time, on the Friday (18th). So, of course, I go home and do my own thing.
Fast forward two weeks, no money from the Jobcentre in the intervening period. I call them to find out what's happened, to be told my claim has been cancelled because I missed an appointment on the 4th - two days after my initial claim interview. Despite, of course, not being told to actually come in on that date, and having evidence which tells me explicitly that the next date to attend an appointment is the 18th.
Fast forward another month, and the claim is finally in progress again. I issued a letter asking for the claim to be backdated for the period they fucked up in, along with the necessary evidence as to why I missed the appointment - to be told "nope, we're not going to backdate it because you've not shown a good cause for missing the appointment."

Still trying to chase the 2-week payment now. In the meantime, I have actually found another job (by the expedient method of not mentioning the depression), paying £525 weekly gross. All girl's boarding school. Wahey

 

[cHodAX]

All girl's boarding school. Wahey

Do you need an assistant?!?! I have a clear CRB and will work for minimum wage!

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Ouch Roalith. Glad it worked out alright in the end, even if you got mistreated by the scuzbuckets.

 

[Roalith]

Do you need an assistant?!?! I have a clear CRB and will work for minimum wage!

You?! A clear CRB? Who did you bribe and how much did it cost you?

 

[cHodAX]

You?! A clear CRB? Who did you bribe and how much did it cost you?

Hack the government, set the bits free!

 

[Fafnir]

Hack the government, set the bits free!

Bah the only thing you can hack is your throat when you hack up the bits of phlegm. You old man..

 

[cHodAX]

Bah the only thing you can hack is your throat when you hack up the bits of phlegm. You old man..

I hacked an admin password file on linux nearly 20 years ago at college, I rawk!

 

[BloodOmen]

Indeed alot of people are prob fit to work and look whats happening, people with genuine disabilities/mental illness are being punished because of it. None the less it does not condone what the DWP is doing imo, fair enough they may indeed have tricked some bogus claimers back onto the work line/off the gravy train but what if they've tricked someone with mental illness back onto it? and that person harms him/herself or someone else due to that illness?

 

[georgie]

I hacked an admin password file on linux nearly 20 years ago at college, I rawk!

Was it "admin" ? :kissit: