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Just a quick question
which is better K7-900 Duron or the athlon
thanks alot
Alex^
which is better K7-900 Duron or the athlon
thanks alot
Alex^
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luap
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Athalon 0wns
T Bird 0wns hard
T Bird 0wns hard
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old.TUG
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PIII 
Duron if you aint got much cash
TBIRD if u have got more cash
Job jobbled.
Duron if you aint got much cash
TBIRD if u have got more cash
Job jobbled.
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bodhi
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Hate to agree with TUG here but get a P3. Runs cooler and has 100% compatibility guaranteed. Number of Athlon BSOD's I've seen in my life beggars logic
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granny
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Athlon.
Thunderbird's are superb chips.
I've got a tbird system at home, my wife's machine is a Duron system and I have a P3 system at work - the tbird set up beats the others hands down.
No incompatility problems (you may have some troubles with older motherboards but that's true of plenty of things), stable as a stable thing with extra stabilisers and fast as a flying fuck dipped in grease.
Ignore bodhi, he just likes to spout crap to wind people up
Thunderbird's are superb chips.
I've got a tbird system at home, my wife's machine is a Duron system and I have a P3 system at work - the tbird set up beats the others hands down.
No incompatility problems (you may have some troubles with older motherboards but that's true of plenty of things), stable as a stable thing with extra stabilisers and fast as a flying fuck dipped in grease.
Ignore bodhi, he just likes to spout crap to wind people up
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old.Alex^
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I wasn't sure if i had duron or athlon
just checked system info
Authentic AMD AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
So it is
just checked system info
Authentic AMD AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
So it is
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Athlon, Athlon, Athlon all the way.
I just got me an Athlon T-Bird 800 + Abit KT7 mobo. Absolutely brilliant combination, Abit has Raid system doobrie that allows 4 Primary EIDE devices to be connected. Handy if you got a second HD and CD-RW.
Luv and hugz
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I just got me an Athlon T-Bird 800 + Abit KT7 mobo. Absolutely brilliant combination, Abit has Raid system doobrie that allows 4 Primary EIDE devices to be connected. Handy if you got a second HD and CD-RW.
Luv and hugz
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old.logic7
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lotsa BSOD's in Athlon systems are caused by crap power supplies. Processor's not gettin' enough juice to function properly.
Duron if you want "power without price" (Old computer slogan, points to the guy that knows it )
TBird if you want more power.
Duron if you want "power without price" (Old computer slogan, points to the guy that knows it
)TBird if you want more power.
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old.Cornholio
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but tug just said athlon if cash and duron if less cash! when did he say p3 on this thread?
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old.TUG
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Exactly But I do like me PIII's... Mite get a 750 cc0 stepping and clock it to 1100ish or more MHz
But I do like me PIII's... Mite get a 750 cc0 stepping and clock it to 1100ish or more MHz
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bodhi
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Originally posted by TUG
PIII
errr there?
Learn to read.
Fuckwit.
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old.sjp
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now dont start being a twat gaing Bodhi
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old.frankie
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As the story goes...
There was a wolf and a scorpion on one side of a river. The scorpian goes to the wolf, "i need to get to the other side of the river, can you give me a lift?" the wolf goes "If i do that, you'll sting me, and ill drown." but the the scorpion says "but if i do that, then i will drown too" so the wolf sees the logic and agrees. Halfway across the river, the scorpion stings the wolf, and as the wolf starts to die it says "why did you do that?, now we'll bother die" and the scorpion says "i cant help it, its in my nature..."
so, to cut a long story short, its in bodhis nature to abuse people
There was a wolf and a scorpion on one side of a river. The scorpian goes to the wolf, "i need to get to the other side of the river, can you give me a lift?" the wolf goes "If i do that, you'll sting me, and ill drown." but the the scorpion says "but if i do that, then i will drown too" so the wolf sees the logic and agrees. Halfway across the river, the scorpion stings the wolf, and as the wolf starts to die it says "why did you do that?, now we'll bother die" and the scorpion says "i cant help it, its in my nature..."
so, to cut a long story short, its in bodhis nature to abuse people
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Stazbumpa
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You watch too much Star Trek mate.
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old.Listy
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Tis what chakotay said to capt. Janeway in voyager i believe, i luvs star trek cos i is a nut
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Testin da Cable
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at least you're honest
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bodhi
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It's not in my nature to abuse people frankie. It's in my nature to abuse fuckwits. Small difference.
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Mr B
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Star Trek thieves
That Scorpion/Wolf/Bear whatever story is "borrowed" from the one about the talkative turtle/tortoise who had to get across an ocean via hitching a lift from a bird - and the only way he could hang on was with gripping the birds leg with his mouth...
...and he didn't reply to "Why did you do that?" with "It's in my nature", he simply said, "I'm a Scorpion".
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That Scorpion/Wolf/Bear whatever story is "borrowed" from the one about the talkative turtle/tortoise who had to get across an ocean via hitching a lift from a bird - and the only way he could hang on was with gripping the birds leg with his mouth...
...and he didn't reply to "Why did you do that?" with "It's in my nature", he simply said, "I'm a Scorpion".
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Mr B
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ps. Duron if you haven't got the cash, Athlon if you have.
Price/Performance wise absolutely NOTHING comes close to the Duron.
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Price/Performance wise absolutely NOTHING comes close to the Duron.
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Testin da Cable
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got a question folks:
my previous pc was a bp6 2x433MHz cellery wiv 128MB dimm, gForce DDR.
it could chomp thru an average seti module in about 16 hours and let me play UT [gl] between 30 and 60 fps.
the box that protects me from them m4D h4x0Rz of the internet, ie. my firewall, is a 200MHz p1 with 128MB edo. it eats a seti mod in around 24hrs and used to let me play quakeII at round bout 25 fps.
my current workstation is a 900MHz tbird, 256MB dimm and my trusty DDR gForce. this one lets me play UT openGL@100+fps but takes 18 hours to compute a seti module.
can someone explain the difference to ignorant me?
I'm stumped
TiA,
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my previous pc was a bp6 2x433MHz cellery wiv 128MB dimm, gForce DDR.
it could chomp thru an average seti module in about 16 hours and let me play UT [gl] between 30 and 60 fps.
the box that protects me from them m4D h4x0Rz of the internet, ie. my firewall, is a 200MHz p1 with 128MB edo. it eats a seti mod in around 24hrs and used to let me play quakeII at round bout 25 fps.
my current workstation is a 900MHz tbird, 256MB dimm and my trusty DDR gForce. this one lets me play UT openGL@100+fps but takes 18 hours to compute a seti module.
can someone explain the difference to ignorant me?
I'm stumped
TiA,
-tdc
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luap
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Jeez what a difference.
Has the T Bird PC got loads of stuff installed? Things taking up CPU time?
Has the T Bird PC got loads of stuff installed? Things taking up CPU time?
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nope just bad old w98se and dx8 and UT
the other two run/ran linux.
the other two run/ran linux.
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old.TUG
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This is when I'd say PIII Specially an overclocked one on a 133MHz FSB as SETI really likes high FSB's so I hear... I don't run it though, I run distributed.net instead.
18hrs for one work unit tho? Fuck me you should be getting times of 5 hrs tops m8! Most AMD users @ 1GHz can do 'em in 4ish I think.
Specially an overclocked one on a 133MHz FSB as SETI really likes high FSB's so I hear... I don't run it though, I run distributed.net instead.18hrs for one work unit tho? Fuck me you should be getting times of 5 hrs tops m8! Most AMD users @ 1GHz can do 'em in 4ish I think.
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aha well found it.
/me hangs head
the problem was my rather dated version of seti that i'd found on one of my backups.
should have guessed it tho, as all else runs faster than a slippery thing dipped in grease sliding down the non-stick slopes of mount teflon
anyhoo, after watching the latest client do it's thing for half an hour, I seem to be averaging toward 0.45% per minute
or 1% every 2.2 minutes. that means that in approx 220mins time 100% will be reached
waay too fast; I expect the average to drop some more as seti really starts to crunch numbers further on in the module. approx 5 hours you said? we'll see
-tdc
/me hangs head
the problem was my rather dated version of seti that i'd found on one of my backups.
should have guessed it tho, as all else runs faster than a slippery thing dipped in grease sliding down the non-stick slopes of mount teflon
anyhoo, after watching the latest client do it's thing for half an hour, I seem to be averaging toward 0.45% per minute
or 1% every 2.2 minutes. that means that in approx 220mins time 100% will be reached
waay too fast; I expect the average to drop some more as seti really starts to crunch numbers further on in the module. approx 5 hours you said? we'll see
-tdc
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bodhi
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On an old tomshardware forum once the good old AMD vs Intel discussion used to come up all the time, and one thing that was brought to light was that the P3 completely and utterly RAPED the Athlon in SETI. Apparently the Athlon keels over and dies under intense number crunching. /me waits for the AMD bigots to pipe up. They get everywhere.
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I thought Intel was always better than AMD for number crunching, hence the usage of Intel chips on Pc based sound workstations ('bout the only thing I know about)
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Mr B
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Why do the Intel "mob" have to poke their beaky noses into an AMD specific thread?
All that was asked was what was better an Athlon or a Duron.
Comparing processor performance is like a quote from somewhere that I'll paraphrase here - "it's like asking who would win a short story competition, Chekov or Tolstoy?"
Interestingly enough the Duron spanks the bottom of the PIII in MPEG-4 decoding benchmarks (Software DVD playback, et cetera) - whereas in other benchmarks the PIII wins, in others the TBird wins, and in others the Celeron wins.
I dare say a Quad Xeon box will spank most other systems at processing SETI units, but will come bottom of the list for Quake3 (because surprisingly enough most Quad mobo's don't come with an AGP port - strange that...)
All that was asked was what was better an Athlon or a Duron.
Comparing processor performance is like a quote from somewhere that I'll paraphrase here - "it's like asking who would win a short story competition, Chekov or Tolstoy?"
Interestingly enough the Duron spanks the bottom of the PIII in MPEG-4 decoding benchmarks (Software DVD playback, et cetera) - whereas in other benchmarks the PIII wins, in others the TBird wins, and in others the Celeron wins.
I dare say a Quad Xeon box will spank most other systems at processing SETI units, but will come bottom of the list for Quake3 (because surprisingly enough most Quad mobo's don't come with an AGP port - strange that...)
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Uhm, possibly because it's an open forum and ONLY replying to a question would be leave a pretty empty boring place. Also, in case you are wondering, I'm not 'part of the intel mob' I was stating something that I THOUGHT, important word that, not that this was the be all and end all.
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old.TUG
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Tell ya wot tho... Athlons seem to beat PIII's @ distributed.net and thats number crunching too bodhi. And I'm an intel owner...
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I personally do not like what Intel is doing right now and AMD has finally gotten it right as far as I'm concerned so that's why I bought the TBird [and a Duron for that matter ].
My Duron based workstation runs much sweeter than my old cellery and my TBird wks is imo one of the fastist and most stable solutions I have ever seen.
With the new client my TBird eats a seti workunit [on average] in less than 5 hours. I don't run distributed but I expect TUG can do a compare if he wants to. [btw TUG some of my m8's are in the 'dutch power cows' running distributed. I believe they've built an AMD based cluster to um dispose of their rivals ]
-tdc
].My Duron based workstation runs much sweeter than my old cellery and my TBird wks is imo one of the fastist and most stable solutions I have ever seen.
With the new client my TBird eats a seti workunit [on average] in less than 5 hours. I don't run distributed
but I expect TUG can do a compare if he wants to. [btw TUG some of my m8's are in the 'dutch power cows' running distributed. I believe they've built an AMD based cluster to um dispose of their rivals ]-tdc