Durability problem !! Fix now mythic or.....

[Heheyougotboned]

I just got my first artifact activated (Traldors oracle - and that staff is blue con even, should wear down slower than a yellow con item). Went exping it for about 1 hour, then its condition was down to 99%

How are you supposed to replace irreplaceable artifacts, SI quest items when they are worn out? Especially as they wear down so quickly?

Crafted items wear down faster as well now, but they can be replaced, though farm threadmill is making daoc a harder/more boring to play than it used to be.

If you dont adress the durabilitylossproblem, you will have people leaving the game, if not sooner, when their artifacts/SI quest items are worn out.

A taste of your own medicine maybe.

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I reported this to www.camelotherald.com/feedbackproc.php and I suggest you all do it too, or in a months time we will be sitting with useless artifacts and SI-quest items. Does that sound like something you want??

You can also mail cambugs@darkageofcamelot.com

 

[Ivan]

Im sure mythic are well aware of this and are working on new artifacts to replace the old <in patch 1.69 for example there is a greater choice of artifacts for any given spec due to them being versatile>. Key point is not to just stick the artifact in the designated slot and xp it off, you have to /time it for belt of sun/moon for example or use only on certain mobs till it levels up. Being a paladin i know that my weapon will degrade insanely fast and so will the shield, perhaps even BP, yet im not whinging .... im making more backup templates in case some of my items get worn out.
Im enjoying the degrade levels as they are now, keeps economy balanced.
My 2 rubles on the matter.

 

[living]

I just got my first artifact activated (Traldors oracle). Went exping it for about 1 hour, then its condition was down to 99%

How are you supposed to replace irreplaceable artifacts, SI quest items when they are worn out? Especially as they wear down so quickly?

Crafted items wear down faster as well now, but they can be replaced, though farm threadmill is making daoc a harder/more boring to play than it used to be.

If you dont adress the durabilitylossproblem, you will have people leaving the game, if not sooner, when their artifacts/SI quest items are worn out.

A taste of your own medicine maybe.

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I reported this to www.camelotherald.com/feedbackproc.php and I suggest you all do it too, or in a months time we will be sitting with useless artifacts and SI-quest items. Does that sound like something you want??

You call that quickly? i'd say its pretty normal for a item to fall 1% in con after 1 hour of constant mob bashing, u need to pve more cuz theres a big diffrence in being hit a few times in rvr and being hit all the time in pve.

Using orange con crafted on my zerker and its pretty common it has lost about 8-9 con after a days constant xping with a buffnot(no downtime)

I feel people have been RVRing too much and completely forgot how fast it actually drops when u start farming mobs, they just found out now with TOA and they start screaming bugs, well excuse me the "bug" has been there the last 5 patches, try playing a BD and u will actually experience ur armor breaking before ur donw with it cuz cloth breaks faster than anything ells!

 

[Heheyougotboned]

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you both missed my crucial point:


How are you supposed to replace irreplaceable artifacts, SI quest items when they are worn out? Especially as they wear down so quickly?

And I wasnt mobbashing with the staff...I only casted spells.


If noone else than me see this as a problem, then we have an even bigger problem.

 

[Ivan]

Replace them with ToA items and stop posting 2 identical threads.

 

[haarewin]

How are you supposed to replace irreplaceable artifacts, SI quest items when they are worn out? Especially as they wear down so quickly?

you arent, they are irreplaceable for a reason, that being - they are very good (too good?). repairing them at 90% will guarantee a longer 'use life' than repairing them every time they hit 99%.
prolly a good idea as a bd is just to leave your pets on aggro at a yellow mob camp, that way you wont lose much con on your stick at all.

 

[Bodzilla]

there's lots of posts on vn boards about the degradation rate

this being one of them

21 pages of it there

 

[fionnel]

my traldor is level 7 and has only lost 2% con, i hardly think the con loss is as bad as people make it seem. And yes, i was casting all the time to get it to level 7, i wasn't 'pl'ing' my staff sitting behind. I did it with a group on purple centaurs, looking for cloudsong scrolls.

As for what you do after they are destroyed (in about a year, assuming there won't be a new expansion with even more uber drops) there are also 2 other artifact staves, and imo Tartaros' Gift is at least as good if not better than Traldor.

 

[Ormorof]

well only items that ive had completely destroyed (70% con 0% dur) after 2 years of daoc is my Paw of Morra that i got on my shammy in those first few days of retail (since i used it on BG chars) it wore out sometime in summer, and remember most items have a 30% hidden duration so they wont wear down too quickly

 

[Jenkz]

by time ToA artifacts wear out there will be even more uber items from future expansions no doubt..

i strongly disagree with with non-tradeable quest items, including artifacts, but dont believe they are much to worry about

btw if you want to level it without it decaying, get a group or join some raids where u can get away with doing less than you would solo

 

[Balbor]

you both missed my crucial point:


How are you supposed to replace irreplaceable artifacts, SI quest items when they are worn out? Especially as they wear down so quickly?

And I wasnt mobbashing with the staff...I only casted spells.


If noone else than me see this as a problem, then we have an even bigger problem.

i think the best way would be a Quest reseter, you hand your item over after it Dur hits 25% and he resets the quest so you can do it again. If artifacts didn't degrade or had a very low degrade rate it would totally upset balence as people wouldn't worry about over using them all the time.

 

[Shan]

I'm quite positive that mythic just fucked up some formulas when they fixed necro armor degrading..

 

[Astar]

Another possible answer would be to put a dur replacement npc in game ... let me see TG stafs sell for upto 15p each so thats 1.5p per 10 points of dur ... the idea of haveing stuff ware out is to stop the game going stale. new/improved stuff or slightly different bonuses will keep the game interesting.

 

[Ziva]

I have mailed GOA about it, telling them i got a Dreamsphere (jewel slot) and bashed about 25/30 mobs and con dropped to 99% allready. Well excuse me but for a 100%-100% JEWEL this is not normal.

I got a reply back and it was something like this:

*****
Greetings,

All items loose con and durabilty over time and artifact items degrade even slower. This is suppose to work this way.

Bla bla Camelot support team
*****

This answer shows these so called support guys don't even read the questions cause i made a detailed story with numbers.

And the answer is total bullshit. I have never ever seen con drop this fast on any jewel especially not a yellow con with 100% 100% stats. It also levels extremely slow so if i would wear it all the time i could basically throw it away at lvl 10.
Well done GOA

 

[Tareregion]

Wouldn't surprise me if they just have a program which highlights specific words and sends automatic replies.

--"CON" found in message--
--"xx%" found in message--
-send con+dur reply--

 

[living]

Wouldn't surprise me if they just have a program which highlights specific words and sends automatic replies.

--"CON" found in message--
--"xx%" found in message--
-send con+dur reply--

People whine too much, as do they on VNboards so dont belive em for shit. Ur item will not be broken before something better is out.

It has always been like this, the leet rvr kids just forgot how fast it degrades. And i dont feel it should be possible to get the item back onces its broken, u had ur fun with it. Find something almost as good then.

 

[Sarnat]

Item durability has really gone down in this patch. This is a fact. I barely had repaired my SM stave earlier and now I can take several con points off in a night.

 

[Kained_again]

If that means people cant all copy a template posted on a webby somehwhere, and actually go out and hunt different items in the game, possibly not having 100% resists/stats/skills thats a good thing isnt it?

Well, it would be if SC wasnt so idiotic

 

[Awarkle]

its too stop you filling up your entire spellcrafting template with lvl 10 artifacts, personally i think the idea is you go through a range of different staffs and items and move around. There are at least three staffs available in toa.

AND i can asure you my galladoria epic ive had for 6months and thats through 2 level 50 chars and the robes is at 60% durability. If you want con loss on an item try an mp staff on an animist shrooming constantly too level up. I managed too take a staff from 67% durability and over 3 levels knock it down too about 15% durability that was over a week.

So just do what i do keep a range of staffs in your backback and decide when its best too use them . I personally going too have a few different artifacts some will level off rvr combat some will level off pve combat im not one for going out into the field with perfect mp overcharged omg i spent 20plat on all this stuff, type of person. Mix and match your equipment ive already seen people with 7 artifacts in a spellcrafting template dont want too seem too cynical but what are you going too do when those 7 artifacts are busted

I wouldnt worry im sure mythic will release another expansion that will have some even better equipment in probbaly intercontinental luri missiles, or firbys with jet packs or Minstrels that can go out solo rvr with a fully buffed frost stalion and manage too wipe out whole full groups of people.... o wait that ones already in

just accept it dont just use your artifacts because you can think, is this is a good time too use that artifact. although i dont beleive with it loosing con until its lvl 10. IE as you exp it it looses its con but once it dings a lvl you get the durability back on it then it degrades again until it hits 10 then it goes down.

Although i dont understand why you cant just do the quests again you would start with a lvl 1 artifact you would have too exp again too lvl 10.

 

[Araudry]

already used 2 full set at 70con / 0 dur with pala and old infil set is almost at 0dur ;o
and since patches i agree dur goes down faster than b4 and even in rvr i lose dur so fast now lol

 

[Pudzy]

Yea, my scouts shield is Aten's should, and its bluecon suprise suprise :l

 

[gervaise]

/bump this.

The VN post is huge and being kept alive because the problem is, as yet, unfixed ... so even with 1.68 Europe will still have the problem