Duawielders!

Olly

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Whats the current "fotm" weapons for us dual wielders?
Thinking of new template, but i wonder if i should go for a "mainhand free" one or just settle for 2 weapons steady.
Any ideas?
 

censi

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depends if its for FG rvr or scirmish rvr.

and depends what weapon type (poke crush slash)

CW will always be a good choice
 

Raven

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Call me silly but ...would it not depend what realm you play....?

across all realms just use 2x leggy and SC them however you like.
 

uspe

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ah yeah. if thrust better LG or traitor and champ.
as i say all depents your template :D
 

toxii

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wheres the fun playing with leggy when every1 runs with bot timer buffs ?

near 50 sist on a decent templated toon :x

or there isnt anymore doing this now ?
 

Gahn

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wheres the fun playing with leggy when every1 runs with bot timer buffs ?

near 50 sist on a decent templated toon :x

or there isnt anymore doing this now ?

Get Spirit ones!
 

Sorin

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Malice and champ weap. And then a legendary spirit or matter as backup.

Malice= Cuz its easy to fit into a temp and cuz of its proc( soon to be nerfed )
Champ weapon= Easy to fit in temp aswell.. and is meant to be a main hand weapon with higher DPS than malice/battler etc.
Legendary= Got a pretty unique proc that fires atleast 40 out of 100.
 

Gahn

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still, have 48% spirit on scout with cleric buffs ;o

Yeh backup with Matter!
I mean there's always an hole in all templates ;)
The real question is: can i be arsed to have all kind of dmg, swap weaps, fuck up my template meanwhile (more likely) to win a single fight?
 

Ati

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I would drop Malice tbh.

As a dual wield offensive would go

group:

ml10 + CW

Solo:

SoK + CW

Brief explination why:

ml10 procs the ubah mist for interupts in a group.
SoK procs the ubah 50% style reduction shield for solo!
CW procs the ubah slash/crush/thrust debuff.

imo.
 

Septina

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Yeh backup with Matter!
I mean there's always an hole in all templates ;)
The real question is: can i be arsed to have all kind of dmg, swap weaps, fuck up my template meanwhile (more likely) to win a single fight?

Always go 20+ on all my sists when making templates, granted i probably could drop one and get a little more hits and the odd cap here and there, but usually i just prefer capping resists. Waddle has 24+ in all resists and most important stuffs capped. <3
 

fujjeh

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Always go 20+ on all my sists when making templates, granted i probably could drop one and get a little more hits and the odd cap here and there, but usually i just prefer capping resists. Waddle has 24+ in all resists and most important stuffs capped. <3

Nakash template > urs! miiihihihihihihihihihihhihihihihihi
 

Manisch Depressiv

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wheres the fun playing with leggy when every1 runs with bot timer buffs ?

near 50 sist on a decent templated toon :x

or there isnt anymore doing this now ?

It doesn't matter, once the debuff keeps chain hitting. Taking out heavy tanks with LWs actually works :).
 

censi

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bit lame to group up your BB and buff resists really (too hardcore must ftw etc)... I used to do it but after a while I thought fuck that.
 

Tilda

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To be honest, you'd be silly to use a weapon that procs mists.

Omni procs hit for cap damage on them, and it really sucks to fight and then have a proc hit your mist for cap damage.
The best I'd go with is Champ weapon and then Moment of Zen or one of the poc debuffers.
 

Maeloch

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To be honest, you'd be silly to use a weapon that procs mists.Omni procs hit for cap damage on them, and it really sucks to fight and then have a proc hit your mist for cap damage.
Limited number of melee fights i've seen with mists going off vs omni procs as it's still chance and can go either way. If u let enuff mists stack up and even if 2 or 3 get 'omniprocced' and heal up for 300hps each u can still end up loosing with the overall health transfer.

Re leg weaps. At one point ran about with PD4 and wierd template with pretty much zero magic resists, 400hps, ctd and 50AF. I was ripe to get raped by lws but hardly anyone actually bothered and never even remember it even happening. Often got screwed by malice proc which pretty seriously fucks u up. More recently on champ, remember getting screwed with matter lws one single time, other times got matter lws used still had bot resists up. Remember just as often peeps losing fight cos bad choice of lw (ie spirit when had 26% + cl resists up). Seems a bit of a gamble to me, but i guess fun trying to 2nd guess peeps resists.
 

Septima

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On SB, CW+Malice was very atractive, didn't bother with LGW, and with 2 kind of melee damage available could dish pretty decent damage on most toons. One exception: melee rangers :(
With battler and Malice nerf, would prolly look for a weapon with AF debuff proc but still keep CW.
 

Infanity

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ah yeah. if thrust better LG or traitor and champ.
as i say all depents your template :D

What does battler give you? Apart from a good charge?


You have lots to learn young mercenary!
 

Infanity

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I would drop Malice tbh.

As a dual wield offensive would go

group:

ml10 + CW

Solo:

SoK + CW

Brief explination why:

ml10 procs the ubah mist for interupts in a group.
SoK procs the ubah 50% style reduction shield for solo!
CW procs the ubah slash/crush/thrust debuff.

imo.


No thanks :(

Mallice proc is <3

The merc template im using atm is free mainhand, So if i log on and actually manage to find 7 people at snowdonia and group i'll run mallice mainhand and champ offhand, If im only merc in grp playing interupt i then switch to traitors
dagger / ml10 weapon and just wait for a proc then switch :]
 

Cloudz

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wheres the fun playing with leggy when every1 runs with bot timer buffs ?

near 50 sist on a decent templated toon :x

or there isnt anymore doing this now ?

no-one listen to this noob, hes knows nothing...

he once told me that he was a good cleric?!

like "yeah sure man..."

I told all my friends and family about it, we laughed for hours.

<3
 

Thadius

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I thought duel wielding grey-con bronze weapons was the new fotm :<
 

Vodkafairy

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as said it depends on role/class a lot

the only thing you can safely say is that you will benefit from having a swappable mainhand on almost everything.
 

illu

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Surely until the malice nerf - malice is the best in offhand?

Depends on class etc., but malice is evil when it procs.

Oli - Illu
 

Beltorak

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on merc/bm/zerk + ns/inf/sb i would go for champ + leggy (got same set up on my inc cow). the dot proc wep is nice but its heat based and most people run with capped heat :/

the malice and battler nerfs are huge. both their affect and duration are halfed
 

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