Does GOA hate Midgard that much? (its about shammies)

[kyllandra]

Well we all know we love our shammies for their buffs and especially end regen

BUT!

When a aug/mend shammy enters a grp now only the tanks can have end regen because a seer class can only cast 16 concentration spells.... so i he end buffes the whole grp he has only 8 spec buffs left, far 2 few....

Ok this works for PvE but it will be hell in PvP, no more skald speed with Perma sprint for the whole grp (unless everybody is buffbotted )

Now lets compare this 2 other realms......

Alb: they only need a minstrel and ofc a paladin, their downside is a paladin runs out of mana.... but for that they have manacracks, manasong and alchemy

Hib: ok they need 2 bards, 1 for speed the other for end regen, but this costs no mana and they have 2 aemezzers with heals etc. (and they still dont think they are overpowered )

So my advice for whole of midgard is: everybody take a second account and let those b00fbots rise 2 heaven, thats the only way we can beat GOA a bit

 

[Cush]

you got one thing wrong.. you can cast 20 spells.. that 16 bufflimit text is just some old text that they missed changing.

And in what way will we beat GOA(its realy Mythic) by getting
more acc's=giving them more money=pretty much what they want

 

[kyllandra]

ah ok, but even then you still remain with 12 spec buffs, long not enough for all 8 ppl unless somebody has a b00fbot...

 

[Cush]

And in next patch (I think it is) they will make the acuity buff usefull for healers/shamans aswell.. so thats some more buffs to cast as a shaman.. And the druid TL was whining about them not beeing able to give all the nesesary buffs to a group

 

[Gewny]

cush if you can find that in some Grab bag or patchnotes plz post a link, cuz I cant find it (I would like it to be so but I am sceptic )

 

[Cush]

Nope cant verify it atm.. Friend of mine did a copy paste with the text in our IRC channel.. dont know where he got it from tho.. fact remains that shamans already got WAY to much buffs there suppose to cast. Why couldent Mythic make the end regen as a chant that was range based or something as the others have. But offcourse.. by doing this they will be able to sell some more acc since mids now need to have buffbots all the time

 

[mavericky]

Originally posted by Cush
And in next patch (I think it is) they will make the acuity buff usefull for healers/shamans aswell.. so thats some more buffs to cast as a shaman.. And the druid TL was whining about them not beeing able to give all the nesesary buffs to a group

The shammy acuity buff still wont affects anything but cloth casters. There are new stats on drops by the dragon and in TG that have an acuity bonus, it is this that were meaning in the patch notes that give a chain wearers the acuity bonus.

 

[nuky]

it is a bit of a joke

midgards only form of power regen and end regen are on our seers - which are always the first targeted, alb dont know how good they got it.

 

[-foadon-]

isnt it under rr5 as seer u can buff 16 and at rr5+ u can buff 20?

 

[Gewny]

Originally posted by nuky
it is a bit of a joke

midgards only form of power regen and end regen are on our seers - which are always the first targeted, alb dont know how good they got it.

yet another of those mismatches, albs and hibs major complain about our old end was that it wasent stoppable, yet mid is the only realm without a un stoppalbe pow regen (yes I know that pow dont make that much of a differance but its yet another example of why mids pow regen is way below the others)

 

[Cush]

Originally posted by -foadon-
isnt it under rr5 as seer u can buff 16 and at rr5+ u can buff 20?

maybe.. no idea. was a while ago i was -rr5 with my shaman

 

[-foadon-]

well i can only buff 16 buffs on my lowbie, and ppl i rvr with can do 20 (they are rr5+) so must be cant see any other point of increasement for going rr5 for seers, like the dmg increase for tanks

 

[mavericky]

Originally posted by -foadon-
isnt it under rr5 as seer u can buff 16 and at rr5+ u can buff 20?

As long as you have enough conc, all RR's and lvls can do 20 buffs

 

[midmaster]

Don't forget that they have removed the lower end-regen, so if you had 42 in aug, then you only got the 42 regen. Why? Everey other specbuff comes with the second highest. Damn crap imo. A solution to save some conc would be buffing with the lower, but that is not an option anymore since Mid is being nerfed to oblivion atm.

 

[Glyph_mid]

Blaming goa...teehee

 

[Cush]

Originally posted by midmaster
Don't forget that they have removed the lower end-regen, so if you had 42 in aug, then you only got the 42 regen. Why? Everey other specbuff comes with the second highest. Damn crap imo. A solution to save some conc would be buffing with the lower, but that is not an option anymore since Mid is being nerfed to oblivion atm.

Dont think running out of cons is the problem.. it is that you reach the max buff limit

 

[Gaeswen]

End regen 5 costs 5 conc..
You will never run out of conc again if you cast 2-4 end 4 or 5 buffs on your party.

 

[scarffs]

Shammies can cast 20 conc based spells.
I usually buff 8 ppl with spec + myself with base.
2*8=16 + base = 20

 

[old.willowywicca]

pfft ungrateful whelps, you and the albs shouldn't even have end regen at all to begin with so quit whining and just be glad you have it at all.

 

[nuky]

Originally posted by scarffs
Shammies can cast 20 conc based spells.
I usually buff 8 ppl with spec + myself with base.
2*8=16 + base = 20

so lets say healer gives u baseline, we can still only give 4 tanks end regen. In my case i speced over 42 in aug mainly for the perma sprint end 5 gives. Not being able to give that to grp kinda sucks imo :/

go mythic :great:

 

[Cush]

Nuky got before me

owell..

+1

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

At lower levels shammies tend to run out of points before they hit the 20 buff limit. You an check this by not casting your highest level buff on people to confirm it and you should find you get to do 20 buffs