Does anyone know the deathrate for ppl that drive motorbikes?

[Kokelimonkelmedisin]

Or well any kind of statistics over motorbike accidents is what I need.

 

[Archeon]

This seems to have a few stats, I didn't read it in much detail though mainly because I really don't like Motercycle users.

 

[Job]

It's the same as everyone......100%

I know one statistic ,for a million miles travelled the accident rate is 50%.

 

[Kokelimonkelmedisin]

Motorcycle riders and passengers accounted for 15% of those killed or seriously injured in 1998, but represented less than 1% of all road traffic.

yikes, looks like I wont be buying a new motorbike then ;(

my uncle is always pushing me to buy a new one (guess he wants someone to
ride with heh, after my aunt fell and refused to ride again) and I realy want one
as they go so mutch faster then a car but then I think of what
madness it is to ride one I mean if you crash there isnt mutch protecting you

 

[Vireb]

people dont die from falling off, they die from hitting stuff while they are skidding along on thier ass. Eg carl foggerty can fall off his moterbike around brands at 150mph+ slide for a few metres get up throw his helmet at some marshall and go phone his mum to cry about it.

and as for stats , Most deaths caused on moterbikes are men aged 45 - 50 , main reason for this is they remember back in the day when they had there 700cc norton and they can now afford a bike again due to kids leaving home work promotion etc, and being full on retards go buy a modern 700cc bike thats like 4x as powerfull as the 60's equivilent, ride like they are the MacDaddy and kill themselves

Also bike riders make far better car drivers mainly due to the observation of road conditions, in winter ride a bike you get to notice leaves, mud anything on road , because you know if you brake/accelerate on that your off, because of noticing these things on a bike you notice them in a car more etc.

 

[harebear]

Well it depends how good you are aswell I guess, my uncles been riding for 40 or so years and hes never had any problems, although he is an instructor.

 

[Jeriraa]

people dont die from falling off, they die from hitting stuff while they are skidding along on thier ass. Eg carl foggerty can fall off his moterbike around brands at 150mph+ slide for a few metres get up throw his helmet at some marshall and go phone his mum to cry about it.

Then he'd be wearing protective gear thou. I dont own a bike myself but my brother does and he also owns a decent protection suit. That thing has protective elements (made from carbon I think) for spinal column, hips, legs, shoulders and arms. It weights about 15kg and costs quite a bit of money but sure as hell is worth it.
Considering that hitting a curb at 20km/h can easily break your spinal column way to few people use this kind of protection. Every time I see people riding motorbikes while wearing jeans and sport shoes I imagine how they would look after sliding 10m's on street asphalt. Well, its certainly a way to loose some weight.

Other than that I guess knowing your limits and the limits of the machine you're riding adds a good bit to safety. (In Germany the ADAC offers safety trainings for drivers and bikers to get to know the physics and limits of your machine. Dunno if something similar exists in other countries.)
There is one thing however that nothing can protect you from... the stupidity of other drivers.

 

[Vireb]

Then he'd be wearing protective gear thou.

yes ofc but to jump on a motorbike thats capable of near on 200mph pushing out like 130bhp youd deserve to die not wearing leathers just out of plain retardness

 

[Job]

Look at the stats 3/4 of bike accidents happen at junctions, it's car drivers pulling out on bikers.
As a long time biker myself (got a larlvley 190mph ZX12) I know what a disease it is in car drivers , they look you in the eye ..wait till the last minute and pull out with 'I'm sorry mate I 'm a twat aren't I ' look on their face.

There is a certain type of car driver who just simply don't look, they casually glance for cars with their peripheral vision and then go, it should be part of the test, at the end of the test the examiner should say 'how many bikes did you see?', if they get it wrong fail em!!!!.

 

[Fana]

Indeed car divers often miss bikers and cyclists. Ive been hit twice on my bicycle in 3 years because the damn car driver didnt look before driving out in a junction.

 

[Rellik]

Indeed car divers often miss bikers and cyclists. Ive been hit twice on my bicycle in 3 years because the damn car driver didnt look before driving out in a junction.

you whould be a rich man if you lived in the US

 

[Jeriraa]

Indeed car divers often miss bikers and cyclists. Ive been hit twice on my bicycle in 3 years because the damn car driver didnt look before driving out in a junction.

Well, getting hit like that once is an accident. But after that I as a biker would be prepared for the unawareness of car drivers.
My driving teacher used to say "Drive like you are the only one on the street who actually can." What he meant was that you have to expect everyone to make mistakes and violate the rules you obey.

A nice example: Sometimes I think in Germany turn-lights (dunno if you call em that) are just for decoration. The odd german driver uses them at 3 occassions if at all:
a) after he hit the brake and is already turning (the city I live in you cant drive 2km's without seeing at least 2 cars that bumbed into each other because of that when its raining... and its raining very often in Bielefeld)
b) when he wants you to clear the left lane on the motorway (usaly combined with flashing headlights and closing in on you till he can see the goosebumps on your neck)
c) when he's half done changing lanes
Someone who just got his license and goes to drive on a german motorway expecting people to obey the laws has a good chance to get involved in an accident because of just that.

 

[Ctuchik]

its not so much the bike riders as much as the car drivers dont see them..'

its damn hard to see one of those fking maniacs when they come charging at 200+ kph through dense traffic..

suppose it got something to do with the "freedom" of riding a MC......

 

[Archeon]

My driving teacher used to say "Drive like you are the only one on the street who actually can." What he meant was that you have to expect everyone to make mistakes and violate the rules you obey.

More often than not thats the case, I'd say "people should retake their test every 5yrs" but to be totally honest the DSA (Driving Standards) is swamped enough with all the 17yr olds crawling over each other to be one of the first in their circle of friends to be able to drive without having to worry about all the 30-somethings turning up in high-powered sports cars which probably costed more than the instructors make in a year

 

[Buffer]

Well, getting hit like that once is an accident. But after that I as a biker would be prepared for the unawareness of car drivers.

Its not quite as easy as that.
Ive ridden a bike and have held eye contact with a driver at a junction, im on a huge bike, which is loud. Then they pull out at the last moment, even if u have slowed down to take into account they might pull out. There is only so much you can do to avoid an accident due to others. If they cant see you or chose to ignore you, you are screwed.

I used to work at a motorcycle instruction school. Ive seen car drivers just ignore 16-17-18 yr old kids, first time out on the road. They would just force them off the road, due to impatience because we travelled at 30mph. In the end i would just ride at the back and block the road to protect the learners/kids and sod the car drivers. I would move to let them pass when it was safe for them todo so. We would rather have the driver pissed off then take a kid to hospital.

Ive driven cars a lot and had advanced tuition, as far as im concerned a lot of car drivers shouldnt be driving, they are a danger to the public and themselves. We all make mistakes but thankfully most are just an oops, sorry and no one is hurt.

Bottom line is if u are in a car, u are in a box designed to protect you, so complacency sets in, u hit another car in town chances are u just suffer some shock. On a bike its broken bones or maybe bad bruising. As was pointed out in an earlier post, when u ride a bike u are more aware.

 

[Yeke]

Just want to add here not all car drivers are thick blind and stupid, a good many are admittedly but at the same time a lot of motorcycle drivers are reckless thick blind and stupid, perhapse more stupid due to the fact they arn't as well protected as a car driver but take just as many if not more risks.

 

[old.Tohtori]

About skill in my opinion.

Crazy? Yes. Good? Yes.

Ride slow until you hit something, then go for the top speeds. 'cause you WILL hit something

 

[Groag]

In my younger days, when I was first learning to ride a motorcycle, an instructor came out with the best advice I have ever heard.

"Assume that everyone else on the road is a homicidal maniac, out to get you personally"

In over 20 years on a bike (yes, I still ride, although I'm turning into a fair weather Biker these days ), I reckon that advice has saved me countless times.

As to car drivers not seeing bikes, I was talking to a guy once who rode a bright, shocking pink bike, with matching leathers and helmet (I didn't ask why ). He told me he had actually had someone say they didn't see him after pulling out in front of him. Apparently, the Police Officer who was in attendance at the time looked at the bike, looked back at the car driver and said "F*ck off!"

Edit: Spelling

 

[Kokelimonkelmedisin]

About skill in my opinion.

Crazy? Yes. Good? Yes.

Ride slow until you hit something, then go for the top speeds. 'cause you WILL hit something

hehe I just d/l'ed the ghostrider goes wild one and not mutch he could have done if any
of those cars he passed had changed lanes, allso many of the red lights
he jumped while in the car were just "I hope noone is coming now".


anyhow thanks for all the replys my uncle just said to me that:
"you drive shit anyhow, mightaswell ride a bike so you kill yourselves
instead of someone else"


BTW: Is this that same ghostrider guy? or is this someone else?