Do not kill the guards

[Grandpeck]

Was the acutal number 140 ? cus it seemed like more like 20 with the way you defended yourselves on the hill :/ May i ask why the hell u didnt attack anyhow ? Better to go down fighting than running away,....oh wait a sec u r albs i forgot

Kio PoisonKiss

 

[Moodyard^_^]

lol

 

[Xandax]

Originally posted by primo
No, read my post before pressing quote or reply. I was listing some possibilities that I heard after the fight and things that I was wondering about. It wasn't an accusation. NOTE the word either in my first post. It means that one of the possibilities that come after the word either is what I think is possible. It also include a question where I ask for another reason.

It was not an accusation, read then post. Im uncertain if the guards that was killed was the reason or if some other reason made mids gather there, that fast or maybe they were there an hour before we came, only mids know thats why I ask.

Why do people always list this excat reason(spying) as a _posibility_ for their failed raids so quickly.

Seen it loads of times over the last period of time.

Lukily there are sensible albion players around also it seems - that don't automatically think it is a midgard spy that _possible_ ruined a RR.

 

[VodkaFairy]

Originally posted by old.Lythande
I'm a bit confused by the posts in this thread so someone please help clear this up for me.

Midnight CET on a weekday is primetime?

(Not a whine, simple question)

It is. Anything from 6-ish-pm to 1am is considered prime time. I think

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by skile
Isn't the buffbot enough to kill those sb's? Guess you need the strengh relic as well. Must hurt not having the advantage. Must also be the reason to your total shamefull outrage. Or you are just mentaly unstable atm, without logics and perspective.

Could be that Pin wasted a few hours scouting for enemy incoming when he could rather have levelled his alts (yeah, he is a PvE guy atm), only to get all that time thrown away by a random tank in a random guild (multiply this time by 150 and you get the total time wasted). Just drop the broken record, Skile, it's getting old.

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by old.Lythande
Midnight CET on a weekday is primetime?

Prime time can be defined as "the time period when the most people are online". Looking at the statistics on the DAoC EU website, you can see that the peak is sometime around 21 gmt, and if we arbitrarily define the population to be around 1500, primetime would be between around 15 gmt and 01 am gmt (i.e. 16 and 02 cet). So yes, this was primetime, I would say.

 

[gwal]

altho I do very much agree that it´s plane stupid how ppl can continue to kill guards, what really amazes me is:

how can ppl not know we were spottet LONG before we killed guards?

 

[skile]

Originally posted by Trinilim
Oh well guyyyzzzz, better luck next tiiime. Don't worry about the guardzzz.. you did nothing wroonnng. Don't worry about iiit, we'll do better next time I'm sure.





That's what you wanted to hear right?

Uhm. Na, theres not only something called hell och heaven. The golden middleway is the way to take here. What you can do is to look over the informationsection in the raid. Why did someone attack guards? How can I prevent it?

Instead of barking, simple.

 

[Chenuba]

Well confession, I killed a guard about 5 min after it was said in the CG that there has been killed guards allready.
Anyway we were allready spotted inside the RvR dungeoun by at least one Mid that stood and tried to hide behind a wall.
The real problems is our WAY TO SLOW organizing and to many bad listeners, not listening to raid leader.

 

[optical-]

Albs failed another relic raid. Whats new.

 

[Lethania.]

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by Belomar
Prime time can be defined as "the time period when the most people are online". Looking at the statistics on the DAoC EU website, you can see that the peak is sometime around 21 gmt, and if we arbitrarily define the population to be around 1500, primetime would be between around 15 gmt and 01 am gmt (i.e. 16 and 02 cet). So yes, this was primetime, I would say.

It's difficult to say when primetime is, cuz the realms are so different regarding population and timezones. It make most impact during the week, but in the weekend it doesn't matter.

Mid is about 20% GMT and the rest CET/other
Alb is about 80% GMT and rest CET/other
Hib is probably 50/50

I think it fair to say that Alb Primetime is 21.00-24.00 GMT, Mid is 21.00-24.00 CET. Midgard attracts most skandianvian players , and Albion attracts English. So to most Mids this wasn't a primetime, but to alb you could say it was within the peek hours. Primetime or no primetime...it's a 24/7 game you can have a go at it any time you want.

As to why it fail ---> Huge numbers was spotted in Dodens and talks of RR was all over the /as. Both AB-Alliance and LFoM was aware of albs in our frontier and was gathering up to deal with it. Then about 10 mins later some dumb albs killed a guard and your numbers was finaly revealed. That is the answer to why you saw the quick response. So Primo STFU about spies, cheats and stuff, cuz that is not how we found out.

...and powahhdagod I only need to read your nick and...

btw.../salute to Trinilim for beeing one alb that finaly calls an apple for an apple.

 

[stunned]

It wasnt me.

 

[Dr. Mangler]

Why even bother go through DG at all?

1. U don´t have to move as a HUGE zerg, name a spot somewhere in enemyfrontier and gather up at that spot.

2. ehh... never mind :chortle:

 

[old.anubis]

report from dungeon was not very clear, so ppl wanted to check it again to be sure
mids started moving to mjoll just after first blend patrol was killed,
and it took you more than 10 minutes (!!!) to come from blend to relic. imo you should've moved faster (and i mean really faster) to mjollnir and block both doors, you had numbers for that.

 

[ReaLX]

Hmm, only thing I want to say in this thread: please don't whine about primetime or not in a 24/7 game, it's kinda useless isn't it ?

It still comes down to realm versus realm, where in "primetime" u have large army vs. large army and not during "primtime" u have small army vs. small army, it's doesn't really make a difference imo... It's still about tactics and numbers... and wantig our damn strength relic back ofcourse

 

[ReaLX]

Re: scouted

Originally posted by indeed
We had at least 1 sb I know of watching you guys at DG. He told the guild and one alliance. We spread the word to other alliances.

Most of midgard would have known within 5 mins that a relic raid was about to take place.

The first patrol was killed with only half of your number in the area, a blend patrol, shortly after you killed a blend patrol with 185 in the area. This was a good 10 mins after you were spotted at DG. You must have been moving very slowly as 5 mins later you were still killing blend patrols. After that a small number of you around 30 killed a fens patrol so we knew you were close.

You were spotted south of the relic keep regrouping. You pulled the guards with 185 in the area. By this time over 20 minutes had past and midgard had an army in place.

mistakes we learned from, won't happen again.... i hope

 

[ReaLX]

offtopic : why are my posts b0rked with wrong dates/times, kinda looks weird quoting posts that are not even posted yet ...

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by primo
Doubt that was the reason they stopped our raid, either someone told them about the raid, they had a spy, they somehow saw the alb zerg and managed to get as many people we had into the keep in 20 mins or so, they used radar or maybe some other reason that I would be very interested in hearing.

actually, you are a bit off there.

We(all mids) have both Radar AND a personal spy AND we saw the zerg

 

[indeed]

scouted

We had at least 1 sb I know of watching you guys at DG. He told the guild and one alliance. We spread the word to other alliances.

Most of midgard would have known within 5 mins that a relic raid was about to take place.

The first patrol was killed with only half of your number in the area, a blend patrol, shortly after you killed a blend patrol with 185 in the area. This was a good 10 mins after you were spotted at DG. You must have been moving very slowly as 5 mins later you were still killing blend patrols. After that a small number of you around 30 killed a fens patrol so we knew you were close.

You were spotted south of the relic keep regrouping. You pulled the guards with 185 in the area. By this time over 20 minutes had past and midgard had an army in place.

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by primo
No, because you lie, it would be interesting to know how you got that many people that fast?

Ve haf veri bik klonink vats yes?

 

[mastade]

Originally posted by StormriderX
maybe try mezzing the patrols instead of killing them next time? :/

The standard alb grp doesnt contain a mezzer ^^

 

[Dr. Mangler]

LooL :lol:

 

[stunned]

While I was playing my spy account with radar I overheard this argument.
Alb 1. Dont kill the guards You idiot.
Alb 2. ffs why not, they are worth rps

 

[ormagaa]

I want to see more Alb. vs. Alb whine :>

 

[old.Ramas]

(and no, I don't know the spanish)

Ne tuez pas les gardes!
Töten Sie nicht den Schutz!
Non uccida le protezioni!
監視を殺してはいけない!
감시를 죽이지 말라 !
Não mate os protetores!
别杀害卫兵!
¡No mate a los protectores!
Du nut keell zee gooerds! Bork Bork!
Oday otnay illkay ethay uardsgay!
DO ONT FRAG TEH GUARDZ!!!!!!!!!!1111~~~~~ i pwn j00

etcetc with more babelfish fun....

 

[old.Sepiritz]

heh..h hehe.h. .heh.. you said gay.. hehehe.. heh.. uardsgay.. heh..

 

[elyand]

Hmms..

Hear a report by albs...

Suicide + release = 15secs, zone back to either svasud or aegirhamn 10secs, visit healer if bound in aegir, 20sec, port svasud 10sec, visit hastener 5sec, run to mjoll mayhapp 2min..

Is of nice imo...

 

[powahhdagod]

Re: Re: Re: well mids can you plz stfu ?

Originally posted by Trinilim
agreed, tbh, I have no respect for anyone with a name like 'powahhh' in the first place, and secondly, I've seen the way you (powahhh) act in real rvr situations. You act like one of those giddy 12 year old school girls.

And what's this about prime time raids?

As if alb and hib didn't do them too.

Hib does them but doesn't admit it.

Alb does too, hell I was in 3 of'em at least.

IMO it's albs like you that make this realm a bad place to be in.. wouldn't be surprised if you were one of the people that killed the guards.

HAHAHAA Gj little random Albion
jfi me and my guild we logged outside teh relic keep and we loged when the attack started..so it is really hard to be the one that i kill the guards....think before post or shut the fuck up..and even if i was in teh z3rg sure i wasn't the one that even throw out my sword to hit a guard......haahah gj m8 continue like that HAHA :bazbeer:
as for seeing me in reall rvr situation...well i doubt that have you ever play fg vs fg ? do you what that means? go back your zerg and shut the fuck up cause the time that i now spend on zerg is about 20mins and the time that i was spending on zerg before i ding rr5 was 1 hour most....gj trin lamme personal attack w/o proofs or evidences..well i have seen this scene before...6 years on online games i have seen a lot of like you trinilm..lammers...you do not suprise me.....

 

[Aussie-]

the first mid says : the guard reports 120 albs
the second one says: 150
the third one : 185
are you sure there werent 300 albs?