Determination

[sweetleaf.]

Just a quick question regarding the realm ability.


Ok say i have a 1min root

Good rvr groups will run with resists of say 40-50%

Ok well known fact higher determination the better so say most good tanks will have 3-4 = 45-60%


Okdoki


Also aoe effects reduce every step form the main target.


Ok i play an animist and use alot of tangler pets in rvr, and aoe roots etc.

Roots were one of the most effective way of stopping a tank.

I mean no point rooting a healer/druid etc or even a caster as they can basically still function normally.

Someone pls explain to me if roots are viable vs tanks..

As my sums may be flawed due to lack of knowledge.


Please help

 

[corel]

rooting a tank will still root him for around 5-6 seconds, enough time for the support/caster he's chasing to get some distance if they are both sprinting

 

[sweetleaf.]

5-6 seconds nuff said really.

Like they say Darkage of tankalot

 

[old.arneduck]

5-6 seconds is enough for an assist train of savages to kill most of my support while im rooted and cant slam/guard

 

[hotrat]

Yep even my ST root only lasts 5 seconds max on a det 5 tank with full resists, landing a root on a tank shouldn't take them out the fight for 1 minute like before I agree, but 5 seconds is just ridiculous.

 

[aonn_elfclomper]

quote:Ok well known fact higher determination the better so say most good tanks will have 3-4 = 45-60%

hmm think most good tanks have det5 +aom2-3

 

[ffix]

determination doesnt take effect with slam btw

 

[nuitari]

Imho just silly that a stupid muscle tank can resist mezz better then a caster.

Mezz affects brain not muscle, so a highly tuned mind like the one of a caster should easilly resist mezz <smile>

Did I say Im a theurg?

My AoE Mezz and Single line root are rendered useless by Det, thank Lady Aeria for chain stunning pets that atleast annoy the tanks.

Give Casters Det!
(or 5 min aoe mezz? affecting tanks only)

 

[Gregstah]

det sux!

 

[old.Thanatlos]

Make determination only affect mezz/stun and only available to hybrids

Add another RA 'forceful charge' which is tank only that reduces root/snare duration. No tank/hybrid can have both.

So either you are very mezz resistant or very root resistant, but never both. Would also fix the desire for hybrids in RvR groups.

Although, might have to make mezz break root as to not have spamwars and have hybrids remain rooted after mezz wears off.

 

[aonn_elfclomper]

Originally posted by old.Thanatlos
Make determination only affect mezz/stun and only available to hybrids

Add another RA 'forceful charge' which is tank only that reduces root/snare duration. No tank/hybrid can have both.

So either you are very mezz resistant or very root resistant, but never both. Would also fix the desire for hybrids in RvR groups.

Although, might have to make mezz break root as to not have spamwars and have hybrids remain rooted after mezz wears off.

bad ide imo ,,, why not just take away mezz/root from the game ? problem solved

 

[iluvatur]

if you take away mezz/root .. then you gotta take away speed and end regen

 

[BidAccount]

Anyone remember how bad cc was before determination - it was the most loathed and hated thing in rvr.

Sure - reduce it/take it out, but also reduce the effectiveness of cc too.

 

[behatch]

reduce the effectiveness of infils too

 

[aonn_elfclomper]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
Anyone remember how bad cc was before determination - it was the most loathed and hated thing in rvr.

Sure - reduce it/take it out, but also reduce the effectiveness of cc too.

aye have been standing like a statue and see my gp getting killed 1 by 1 and not be able to do shit ... if RvR going back like that im out thats for sure ... now u aint dead just cos u lose CC fight ,,, i mean qc mezz with bolt range and no det ? no tnx

 

[BidAccount]

Originally posted by behatch
reduce the effectiveness of infils too

Yeah - those chain wearing, insta casting, 3types of cc'ing, self healing feckers are overpowered in rvr!

Hey, wait a minute there....

 

[iluvatur]

you do know that sorcs cast mezz faster without QC? 0o

 

[sweetleaf.]

I am not stating get rid of crowd control.

I am making a point with reference to specing 50 in a line which contains a aoe root and finding it ineffective.



I would just like to see some middle ground.


At the end of the day mages nuke for 300 approx and have no form of defence, we have to hide in zergs or sit on keep walls to be effective.

I want to see mages with a form of defence that works

But like most, my animist and gone on the shelf and will now roll a tank like most and be fotm. The frustration of being a mage is too much for me atm. Not enjoying the game in its current form

 

[BidAccount]

I don't think you'll find tanks all they're cracked up to be.....

 

[swords]

Do you ever not whine Donttouchpoopy?

 

[BidAccount]

Originally posted by swords
Do you ever not whine Donttouchpoopy?

Find me a post where I've whined.

/shrug.

The point above is that the grass always looks greener until you get there.

 

[Silenzio]

remove mez and non weapon stun...


done.

 

[alme]

its teh wynz!