Competition Desparation

[Scouse]

A billion quid prize is on offer if anyone can figure out how to capture carbon and store it - just from the UK government. That's an unbelieveable amount of cash for a science prize.

For the second time in five years, £1bn will be offered for schemes to trap and bury carbon dioxide.
An earlier competition collapsed after all nine entrants pulled out, most citing cost as the main problem

CCS is a cornerstone of government policy. It's one of the reasons rolled out regularly for not investing in renewable energy - "we're going to capture and store carbon dioxide - we can keep burning coal and gas".

Of course, CCS doesn't actually exist, and as it turns out it's a harder challenge than the politicians thought (unsurprisingly, scrubbing CO2 is very expensive - enough to jusitfy full-on renewables investement and then some).

A billion quid shows how much the government is relying on science to fix their idiot problems. It's desparate.

 

[Tom]

Not as desparate as your spelling though.

 

[Ch3tan]

That billion would be better spent on nuclear

 

[Scouse]

Not as desparate as your spelling though.

Happens to the best of us

That billion would be better spent on nuclear

Would be a drop in the ocean of waste. Considering we've told companies like EOn that we'd foot the 90-billion bill for decomissioning and disposal of waste, whilst they could reap the profits from building and running nuclear, and they've still pulled out...

 

[TdC]

I believe trees are the answer. Trees, and ocean algae.


Now...where's my money? WHERE IS MY MONEY!!?!?!?


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc05wjMHnOo

 

[rynnor]

Big pipe to the top of the atmosphere and let it leak harmlessly into space - job done wheres my cash?

 

[Job]

90 billion to remove waste, 89 billion of it fighting eco loonies in the courts.
it's simple, build more reprocessing plants and tell the headless chicken brigade to fuck off.

 

[Wij]

Happens to the best of us



Would be a drop in the ocean of waste. Considering we've told companies like EOn that we'd foot the 90-billion bill for decomissioning and disposal of waste, whilst they could reap the profits from building and running nuclear, and they've still pulled out...

Source?

 

[Scouse]

Source?

What? On EOn pulling out of nuclear build? That's common knowledge. As for the waste disposal and decomissioning costs - that source has been provided multiple times in other threads on similar subjects.

You're getting old and senile Wij

 

[Raven]

To save time can you link them please.

Sources that show that the government will foot the bill decommissioning and clean up.

Even if it is true, it depends entirely which government signed it with regards to blaming someone.

 

[Scouse]

Sod off, save my time and find the links I've already provided yourself.

 

[Wij]

What? On EOn pulling out of nuclear build? That's common knowledge. As for the waste disposal and decomissioning costs - that source has been provided multiple times in other threads on similar subjects.

You're getting old and senile Wij

Gov't will foot 90 billion for nuclear waste clean up from NEW nuclear? Not seen that no. That's a lot more cost than the construction and running of the new stations proposed. ERROR ERROR ERROR!

 

[Scouse]

That's a lot more cost than the construction and running of the new stations proposed.

This.

It's one of the (many) reasons I'm against new nuclear. Joe Public is going to foot the bill for decomissioning and waste disposal - and decomissioning and waste disposal is where the majority of cost of a nuclear program resides.

 

[Wij]

This.

It's one of the (many) reasons I'm against new nuclear. Joe Public is going to foot the bill for decomissioning and waste disposal - and decomissioning and waste disposal is where the majority of cost of a nuclear program resides.

I wasn't stating it as a fact but as something that needs to be sourced. Gen 3b reactors produce a lot less waste than our old ones.

/edit: and the MAIN reason you are against it is because you are a pussy !!!!!!!!!!1

 

[Scouse]

Meh. Bored of our arguments on nuclear anyway - it seems we're never going to agree

This was a thread about Carbon Capture and Storage being a pie-in-the-sky idea sold as fact. Whether we fill the gap with nuclear or renewables doesn't matter - CCS is a load of bollocks.

 

[Raven]

So there is no source then, just random internet figures.

 

[russell]

Source?

sweet chilli purlease

 

[Scouse]

So there is no source then, just random internet figures.

Piss off. I'm not going to keep a library of sources that I've previously provided just to keep you happy when you don't want to believe something.

 

[Bodhi]

I think the fact that you cannot be bothered to quote your sources shows how much weight we should give your argument.

Typical Greenie, using FUD to hold back the human race.

 

[Scouse]

This is a thread on Carbon Capture and Storage, not one on nuclear power. Ch3t brought the subject up and I've covered it before, with sources.

I think the fact that you can't be arsed to go and read through old threads to find the sources shows that you can't be arsed to do that as much as I can't be arsed to repeatedly justify myself. I.E. Not one bit.

 

[Gwadien]

They could employ enough people to cycle on a bike that will run a source of energy for £90billion.

Then use Nuclear on the weekends.

Wasn't there a system in a third world country hotel, where they could create energy for the hotel, and they get a bed for night?

Ah, thats it, Austria, I think.

 

[rynnor]

It does suprise me that people discuss Carbon Capture and Storage like its something real rather than a pie in the sky theory but I cant say I worry too much as I dont actually believe CO2 is evil

 

[Wij]

They could employ enough people to cycle on a bike that will run a source of energy for £90billion.

Then use Nuclear on the weekends.

Wasn't there a system in a third world country hotel, where they could create energy for the hotel, and they get a bed for night?

Ah, thats it, Austria, I think.

Despite what The Matrix told you, humans are very inefficient at storing and processing energy. To get lots of people to do lots of exercise on dynamos every day, you're going to have to feed them LOTS of food. Veggie crap too to be more efficient. It's dumb. Coal is orders of magnitude cheaper. Plus, a constant cacophony of veggie farts would be worse for the environment than coal burning