Defensive Hero Spec Advice

[Event]

Defensive Hero Wep Choice Advice

Im making a more offensive tank for rvr so Im gonna respec my lurihero out of CS to a defensive s/s spec for a rvr guarding role and pve fun:

50 1H
50 Shield
28 Parry

I need advice on what wep to choose.

Pierce styles suck as best ones come off evade which heros dont do much of. As a defensive tank in rvr I will be up against enemy tanks rather than support so would blunt be a better choice for styles and against plate etc?

Thoughts appreciated esp from luri s/s heros - cheers

 

[Aloca]

As a lurri hero i would choose piercing becouse of better dmg output with higher (str/dex)/2 than only str .

 

[Ensceptifica]

I think Fafhrd has 50 shield and 50 LW, dunno what he put the rest in, but he seems to enjoy it and I think he's nice to have around in a group ( ;

As long as he stays off the grog that is.

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by Aloca
As a lurri hero i would choose piercing becouse of better dmg output with higher (str/dex)/2 than only str .

with red buffs, my luri hero has higher str than dex, meaning pure str based weapons are still better

i'd say pierce for the damage type and coz the styles look cute

 

[old.Xanthian]

50 Blunt


Pierce is shitty dmg,
Blades dont have decent reactionary styles.

 

[old.Laryssa]

blunt - 9sec stun of a parry (chain) afaik

dunno if this works

 

[VodkaFairy]

Originally posted by old.Laryssa
blunt - 9sec stun of a parry (chain) afaik

dunno if this works

10 sec stun off parry
10 sec stun off block
9 sec anytime stun

:-o

 

[old.Laryssa]

Originally posted by VodkaFairy
10 sec stun off parry
10 sec stun off block
9 sec anytime stun

:-o

ok sounds nice - event go for it

 

[old.Xanthian]

Im blunt and tbh it rocks

 

[Event]

blunt doesnt have an anytime stun as far as I can see

soz u mean slam ofc

 

[Vantros]

i agree blunt is very nice.. but on a luri hero i dont think its as good as a celt hero or firby hero... pierce would be better imho.. but in the end its all about preference, want to do dmg faster but do less per attack or want to do high dmg per attack but slower

 

[Arnor]

50shield
50parry
28blades

 

[old.Xanthian]

dont make a luri then..

 

[VodkaFairy]

luri hero just isn't as good as celt/firby but the difference isn't too big

at level 50 a luri hero has more str than dex which many people seem to forget

50 blunt 50 shield 28 parry is a good spec for a hero, whichever race you pick.

 

[Event]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian
dont make a luri then..

Too late - shes L48.5 lol

 

[vintervargen]

if your role is guarding, you shouldn't focus so much on styles. i hardly use any other that taunt and behind, usually too busy slamming. go for whatever gives you most weaponskill, im pierce and have 1948 with red buffs, rr4, aug dex2 and aug str1. got 328 str and 344 dex.

 

[Ravenbourne]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian
50 Blunt


Pierce is shitty dmg,
Blades dont have decent reactionary styles.

You actually get 2 chains from block with blades and as far as i know the rear style has a handy snare, if you have 42 or even 50 shield you have slam at 42 then brutalize (block reactionary shield stun) at 50 skill.
I have found LW boring, hit every 5 seconds? no thanks. leave the damage output to the casters.

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by VodkaFairy

at level 50 a luri hero has more str than dex which many people seem to forget

I went to look this up cause i wasnt sure. If the character builder on catacombs is correct then a luri hero has 10 more dex than str.

 

[vintervargen]

Originally posted by boni_ofdavoid
I went to look this up cause i wasnt sure. If the character builder on catacombs is correct then a luri hero has 10 more dex than str.

Originally posted by vintervargen
got 328 str and 344 dex with aug dex2 and aug str1

 

[belth]

Primary stat +45
Secondary stat +23
Tertriary stat +15

Count from there.

 

[old.Glendower]

Higher dex of luri means more blocking for s/s hero.

Higher quick means faster swings.

With aug str 2 you get 12 more str on your toon and once you get weapon skill above 1200, you tend to miss very little anyway.

Presumably you dropped 10 points into str/con at the beginning too.

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian
dont make a luri then..

make a luri!

shield WS = 100% dex.

luris have highest dex

osv

 

[Ekg]

Only me that likes sylvan as heros?

 

[StormriderX]

For a defence hero - spec blades. Most lethal tank in game = savage = weak to slash = go slash since you need all the help you can get with those little fuckers.

 

[crd]

shield WS = 100% dex

Also you need a higher weapon spec to have any chance of hitting slam since your shield attacks are based off your main hands weapon skill. In other words if you got bad weapon skill you will miss with slam more often then not.

And I always thought shield skill was based on shield spec and str, or maybe dex.. haven't thought about it much =/
well anyway plz help me get this straight

 

[Event]

Mythic have said that slam effectiveness is based on dex and shield skill - was on a reply from Mythic on Herald - I will try find it and post link.

Shield has its own wep skill not reliant on 1H skill - as far as I can tell this is a rumour that got bigger.

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by Event
Mythic have said that slam effectiveness is based on dex and shield skill - was on a reply from Mythic on Herald - I will try find it and post link.

Hmm, please find the link if you can! I tried to look this up :/

I also got a vauge feeling about a similar grab bag which stated that damage was based on str.
Str seems more likely to me as a shield is a blunt / bashing weapon similar to blunts, which ofc are based on str.

 

[Event]

Yeh it was in a grab bag - will try find it

Im sure dmg was str based but chance to slam was influenced by dex ans shield skill

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by boni_ofdavoid
Hmm, please find the link if you can! I tried to look this up :/

I also got a vauge feeling about a similar grab bag which stated that damage was based on str.
Str seems more likely to me as a shield is a blunt / bashing weapon similar to blunts, which ofc are based on str.

well, almost all 2hands, cept mid spear, is pure str.

almost all crush weapons, cept shield, is pure str.

cept 2h staffs that is pure dex.

yes, it would sound most natural that str is the WS. But it's also common knowledge that blockrate is dex.

so it really isn't such a clear case.

and if Event looks the grab bag up, i am sure you will see it says str.