Decisions

[MYstIC G]

ok, i've got to the stage now where my NVidia TNT2 is a complete pile of shite that needs to rush its ass into the nearest bin asap to make way for a successor.

The plan at the moment is to pick up a nice cheap GF2 and then when I splash out later in the year (cos I definatly need to get a new PC sorted) pick myself up a GF4 (basically cos I know if I get a GF3 now, I won't upgrade to a 4, cos I'm like that )

So basically I'm wondering whats the best AGP GF2 to go for atm, i.e. Manufacturer/Cost (Value)/Performance/etc.

Thx in advance you lovley peeps

 

[Wij]

Absolute BEST bargain at the minute (OK - next month) will be some form of GF4 4200. Save up an extra 50 quid or so and you will get a card that makes a GF2 seem like an S3 card GF2s are really not gonna cut it with Doom3 and UT2003 etc... Unless single-figure frame-rates give you the horn

/edit: hopefully you should be able to get one for £170 or so and they'll outperform any GF3 or ATI offering.

 

[MYstIC G]

but, but, but thats like _next month_

 

[Xavier]

yup but that's the first sensible think wij has said in weeks... take heed young mystic - he's right y'know...

moving from tnt2 to geforce 2 12 months ago would *maybe* have been acceptable...

doing it now would be like upgrading a 1.1l fiesta to a 1.2l when everyone else is cruising around in dodge vipers... - the lack of pixel and vertex shaders will mean it runs *slightly* faster but it will still suck TREMENDOUSLY with 90% of the games released in the last year...

sort it out!

 

[MYstIC G]

aye but the idea is to retire this "fiesta" to the garage in the next few months without it being completely outdated, hence I don't really wanna put a GF4 in it cos it'd probably just come out & then this box would get TNT2'd again

 

[LTF]

I bought a Creative GF2 Ti 64MB from Dabs for £84.60 and i'm quite happy with that, not sure how it would cope with the latest games though, but i'm running rtcw on it very nicely...

 

[-Ultimate]

Yeah, got same card as above and its best gf2 out there, unless u can get a gf2 ultra 2nd hand somewhere.

 

[S-Gray]

I gotta Asus Geforce 2 V7100 about 2 months back, nice card and was £60 from ebuyer, then a few weeks later they bring out a cheapy version of the Geforce 4 for £80 which buggered me up

 

[Wij]

Cheapy GF4 is NOT a GF4. The GF4 MX ones are almost identical to GF2s. If you are going to get a GF4 make sure it's a Ti. The Ti4200 is the cheapest but blows everything else available (apart from Ti4400 and Ti4600) out of the water by a large margin. especially in upcoming games this year. Do yourselves a favour and don't buy anything except a GF4 Ti at the moment. There is no real competition until the next-gen parts come out.

Remember, UT2003 and Doom3 etc will play like SHITE on a GF2. Spend the extra 50 quid and forget having to upgrade for a long time

(Xav - Cheeky Cunting Cunty Cunt Cunt )

 

[old.Dan_the_man]

doing it now would be like upgrading a 1.1l fiesta to a 1.2l when everyone else is cruising around in dodge vipers... - the lack of pixel and vertex shaders will mean it runs *slightly* faster but it will still suck TREMENDOUSLY with 90% of the games released in the last year...

Games are still getting around to using hardware T&L let alone pixel & vertex shaders, tho the GF4 4200 is still the best bet.

 

[Wilier]

I got a GF2 MX400 for £50 a couple of months back, and its loads better than my TNT2.

Im gonna get a better card, oneday.

 

[Summo]

Those GeForce 4 Ti4xxxs are pretty bloody expensive, aren't they? Thankfully, Xavier's sending one to me. I had to visit some amateur website and answer a stoopid question, but worth it, imo.

I might treat myself when Unreal 2 is released and buy that and a GeForce 4 Ti4200 at the same time.

 

[Wilier]

Its a fookin FIX I tells ya

 

[old.Miss Marple]

When is the GF4 Ti4200 being released. I really think I need to upgrade my Prophet 4500. It's slowing everything else down

 

[Summo]

Last I heard it was supposed to be released at the end of last month. Not helpful, I know.

 

[old.Miss Marple]

What I really need to know is will they be available at the end of May, and if I should go for a Ti4200 or Ti4400?

 

[Wij]

Depends on the price

You won't notice that much diff between a 4200 and a 4400 tbh.

 

[Xavier]

except for an extra 64mb depending on the manufacturer

 

[MYstIC G]

/me picked up a GF2 & a Audigy player.... defo worth the upgrade as JK:II & MoH:AA now run far better, which will tide me over until I can get the new box of my dreams

 

[Wij]

Originally posted by Xavier
except for an extra 64mb depending on the manufacturer

The extra 64meg won't make much difference though. Not so's you could tell just looking at the game.

And Meg - you fool ! All my advice wasted

 

[old.Miss Marple]

I'm undecided. If I can get a Ti4200 when my exams are over I will. If they aren't available I'll get a Ti4400.

Should the Ti4200 be available by May 31st?

 

[MYstIC G]

Originally posted by Wij


The extra 64meg won't make much difference though. Not so's you could tell just looking at the game.

And Meg - you fool ! All my advice wasted

I'm not fucking buying a GF4 for a box that doesn't have the capacity to use it fully \/

 

[Summo]

Cheeky boy with a cheeky sig.

 

[Xavier]

Originally posted by Wij


The extra 64meg won't make much difference though. Not so's you could tell just looking at the game.

wtf?? you'd rather at high resolutions that the system shifted loads of data across the AGP instead of using the 128Mb and sacrificed fps ??? of course it makes a difference - something you'd know if you'd read our ti4600 article... check out the 128Mb frame buffer section :

http://www.tecnation.co.uk/reviews.php?section=3&index=166#whatsnew


grrr!

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

Does anyone read Technation? (serious question)

 

[S-Gray]

I had a quick look (For the GF Compo ) then had another quick look round there.

I dont know many Hardware / Technical sites for the UK, only one that sticks out is Tomshardware, and thats not UK

 

[old.Miss Marple]

I've started reading TechNation recently as I have started upgrading my computer recently.

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

I read the Ipod review and think that computer people should stay away from sound stuff heh

 

[caLLous]

Mmmmmm, Dodge Viper...