Decicated XP group aka Pbaoe group.

[old.Downanael]

Will be starting pbaoe group at next wednesday 17th, Will be exping each day between 17:30-22:00 or so.

2 tanks:Cami/Faj (Confirmed/)
1 warrior:morcheeba
2 Spiritmasters:Vim/Rhan (/Confirmed)
1 Shaman: Downanael(Confirmed)
1 Healer:Xsi0s
1 Runemaster(Supp):Z^SaiNT

Will be using this hunting guide. Will start on level 24 or so but bit lower will go too.

Also mIrc channel for this is at #midgroup on Quakenet.

 

[Vim]

I have a lvl29 SM, i can join it. Can also PL some who do /level 20 if we have some others who already got ie 24+ char..
edit: /em kisses Dow

 

[fafa]

i sign up for warrior /level 20.

 

[Vim]

Shall we set up IRC channel? Helps communication loads

My IRC nick: Shan [QuakeNet]. It's a bouncer so it's always online, but i may not always be present.

Clock timer are fine but there may be couple days / week (Probably Friday and maybe saturday) when i can not come, and same may apply to many others. Not sure yet tho

 

[old.Downanael]

Originally posted by Vim
Shall we set up IRC channel? Helps communication loads

Why not Will set one up tonight(etc when i get off from work)

Let's call it #Midgroup on Quakenet.

 

[Vim]

Originally posted by old.Downanael
Why not Will set one up tonight(etc when i get off from work)

Let's call it #Midgroup on Quakenet.

Created it already (So can get L fast when others join). Am online whole evening (may be tailoring on Vim or being in thid on Kauhu (temporary lvl24 PAC healer that i will delete) so if thou can't slap me in IRC just come Mid/Pry and /who Vim or /who Kauhu and /send

 

[Vasconcelos]

Shame you dropped the skald, i would have joined you with mine.
If you re-consider it, or don't mind filling the tank role with a skald, pm me here in BW, or post it. I will be checking this thread.

 

[Cami]

When is this planning to happen? at nights? 1800+ cet on weekdays or so?

Im in for a Savage(Tank spot) Im avail every night after work hours

edit: Savage is 22 atm, wont mind rerolling to 20 tho

 

[old.Downanael]

Originally posted by Cami
When is this planning to happen? at nights? 1800+ cet on weekdays or so?

It depends what people find suitable, but it will be around 18:00-22:00 cet, but time is pretty much open to wishes.On weekends it really goes how people want to make it

 

[Cami]

Originally posted by old.Downanael
It depends what people find suitable, but it will be around 18:00-22:00 cet, but time is pretty much open to wishes.On weekends it really goes how people want to make it

Suits me fine, sign me up if you want a h2h savage

 

[Vim]

Some class tips:

PAC Healer:

Final spec does not really matter. Of course 48PAC 24mend is best if you want a CC healer, but 40Mend 36 PAC and similiar specs aren't "gimped" either, of course your char must be viable in RvR too

lvl50 Shammybot and lvl50 HealerBot would be awesome too (Could even drop healer or make Mend/Aug healer and use lvl50 bot for stunning)

If you do /level 20, spec ALL to PAC. gives good AE stun and 2nd POX. Then when you ding 21,22,23,24, spec ALL to mend. This gives 20PAC/13Mend (First Insta!)

About AE Stunning. Only Stun when mobs are boxed (Tanks pull them in one spot for maximized SM damage). But if we get huge pull (too much for tanks to handle), you may stun to prevent SM's/Healers/RM from being hit. Spam AE stun 3-4 times. Even when stun wears off, next stick will still be 50% of duration, what grants at least 1-2 safe PBAOE's

WITH POXBOT:

After 24 Healer can still continue speccing Mending so he can work as primary healer too. So if he is doing 48PAC 24Mend, Spec Mend all the way from 21 to 32. After that keep taking PAC up.

With 40Mend 36PAC Spec you will need lvl 44 for 40Mend (And leftovers of that level to PAC, what grants 22 PAC), and then all the minidings and dings to PAC.

Of course 20 PAC means only 7 second AE STUN that does NOT stick well (As stick formula includes spell level) so i don't really advise doing it like this with 40Mend 36PAC spec. Might be advisable to spec PAC every 2 levels (so 25 PAC, 26 Mend, 27 PAC, 28 Mend and so forth)

Shaman:

As PAC healer with /level20 should do as above, Shammy should at 20 spec 12 Aug for first ER 1st Acuity, THEN spec rest to mend as PAC healer cannot heal well until ding 24. This way Shaman will be "primary" healer until 24. This has been done before and IMO it's the best way. After this PAC healer can spec how he likes, altho i'd keep going high PAC so we get better POX fast!

WITH BUFFBOT:

As we should have buffbot or two, Buffbot can grant End Regens and most of buffs. So if Shammy wants, he can go 20Mend @ 20 and then start speccing Aug, or even take Mend to whatever level he is planning and after that start speccing Aug. Can't give much tips here, all up to Shammy himself. But full mend Shammy heals well enough, and gets group friggs at 26 (Note that there is the level 40 respec

Shaman being Mend would be safe, as we would have 2 decent healers then. While exping it does not really matter if you are not "ub3r buff3r"

Warriors/Savages:

If Savage wants 2H he should do H2H until lvl40, as they need to be able to keep aggro and 2H misses are REAL pain. Then just respec at 40.

Warriors.. well, kobolds would be awesome if you can play Slambot/Guardbot. But in the end it's up to you of course

Supp RM:

Race is up to you. Dwarf has most HP so it stays alive longer (Important with PBT) but then again Snare DD is on long cast time.. so Kobold's Dex has benefits.

50 Supp is good spec (last single snare DD), or at least 44 Supp for best PBT (last AE Snare DD is 46). Supp RM will be puller (due nerfsight). Do NOT get frustarted if tanks let mob through and you die. in my earlier Midgroup our RM kept dying at least couple times / day. It's all up to how skilled tanks / stunner is. But even if we get couple total wipes / day, we will get the exp back damn fast. So do not get frustrated no matter what

Before 26 Just do group BT and spam single BT on guys who keep aggro.

Spiritmasters:

I dunno what spec you are taking, im probably going 50 Supp (for last single mez), 20 Dark, 4 Summ. The 2 more dark that you gain from going only 49 Supp isn't that huge increase...

One should always use AE STR/CON Debuff. It doesn't help loads, but it does help. Just make sure that all mobs have been hit/taunted, as this takes very little aggro and may make you die.

General Tips:

- All Casters MUST have Focus staves, period!
- Spiritmasters should have gear with capped piety for some major damage. Also of course acuity buff (Shammy bot would be awesome for purple acuity buff.
- If anyone has lvl50 friend in Alb/Hib Prydwen, ask him if he can come ie to Emain to trees behind MPK so you could kill him once or twice for MCL. Vim already has MCL so this is not an issue for me.
- Casters save power. If we do Red/lowpurp like we should, about 3-4 blasts from 3 SM's should be enough. With POX and MCL's we can almost chainpull, just puller must watch casters/healers power.
- Healer/Shammy, do NOT hesitate to run if situation really goes critical. Tanks should ALWAYS stay and fight even if you obviously are going to die to give healers more time to save themselves and come back to rez. wipes may/will occure, but lost exp is nothing, we get it back in 3-5 pulls. So do not care for your own exp, just make sure that Healer or Sham will make it. But releasing and running back to malmo from Galp -> Gna -> Horse to West Scona -> Running with RM speed really sucks. (If we get that Bot, this will of course not be an issue

If anyone who joins has a crafter char, it would be awesome to always get crafted armor for tanks/crafted cloth for casters. SC would be even more uber to have that cappied piety and possible other stats like DEX/CON/HITS/Melee resists. Then later you can save these and pass them to guildie alts or just salvage them (or give them to me

Players with rich mains must do some investments here (like DF seals for focus staves, gear and SC's). Personally Vim has only 550g and im raising tailoring (only 200 ), but i can always donate small amounts

THE OBVIOUS:

Do not, and i repeat, do not join if you think that you can't nolife 4-5 days / week minimum Sure some days will be cancelled, anything can come up.. You may have to go to hospital, you may not get a ride home due missing a bus and so forth.. or you may have some important meeting. But never ever be away because of something that you could do some other day (ie weekend when we may not play) or what you could do after we ding 50.

Also it's probably wise to temporarily share some phonenumbers. At least i'd prefer to share mine with couple guys so i can SMS if something critical comes up and you don't have to wait for me for 3 hours and wonder where the fuck i am. Sure SMS's cost abit more abroad but for me it's not critical at least..

After 35+ it's not so terrible if we are missing one guy as we aren't getting 5 levels / day anymore like we will get 20 -> 30. Temporare replacements can be taken in for cases like this so 1 guy won't ruin it for rest 7. But in this case he should be powerleveled / should exp on freetime to catch others. But before 35 there shouldn't really be any skippings (note that 20 -> 35 in this group means 4 days MAX)

Starting:

Personally i'd prefer that you'd start at 24 (like i said, i can offer some Pwrlvl altho Vim is only 29..) or do /level 20 and exp to 24 at your freetime before we start. I can instantly join in and help you in group to my level but im not sure would level 29 SM @ lvl24 group ruin the exp..

I checked the hunting guide and it looks ok. Our group did only to lvl36 and then splitted but we did those same mobs on Spots #1 and #2. Did some huge red-ora pull on scout (12+ mobs) and survived Was playing PAC healer (Had 3 SM's)

Also it's best to create temporary guild for this, so we easily can communicate even before grouping (Use Guildchat), and can get nice outlook Name suggestions? And after this is done, join your own guild if you have one

Training:

We should only train when something critical is gained (READ: SM's get new PBAOE). Train at 24 (Unless we start at 24) so healer gets 13Mend. Train at 27 so SM's get new PBAOE and RM gets PBT (Or RM go train fast [Maybe with suicide as you guys will be at Varulv] to get PBT instantly)], then at 34 again for PBAOE and so forth. No running to train every 2 levels.

 

[Kharok Svark]

As posted in the other thread ...

I have a level 21 Supp SM who could join you for 3 levels if it helps.

Won't be taking past 24 though, at least not until I have tried him out in the training ground (BG).

 

[Vim]

Re: As posted in the other thread ...

Originally posted by Kharok Svark
I have a level 21 Supp SM who could join you for 3 levels if it helps.

Won't be taking past 24 though, at least not until I have tried him out in the training ground (BG).

of course it's up to Down but IMO it's not really acceptable :/ Unless we find someone who wants to join at 24 and surely will. Group splitting is worst that can happen for fixed. One guy (Especially SM) leaving may ruin it totally (Speaking from experience ^^)

Besides exping SM to thid level is really fast. Can be done in one day even in random groups, or get POX and farm DF/Vendo alone.

 

[old.Downanael]

I must agree with Vim,It's going all the way for 50. Not fun trying to find other pbaoe after we been going 2 days.

 

[Kharok Svark]

Re: Re: As posted in the other thread ...

Originally posted by Vim
of course it's up to Down but IMO it's not really acceptable :/ Unless we find someone who wants to join at 24 and surely will. Group splitting is worst that can happen for fixed. One guy (Especially SM) leaving may ruin it totally (Speaking from experience ^^)

Besides exping SM to thid level is really fast. Can be done in one day even in random groups, or get POX and farm DF/Vendo alone.

As I said in the other thread too ... it is an offer to help, if needed.

I do not wish to power level to 50, but if you guys wanna get going and find yourselves short an SM, I am willing to help.

I am taking several alts to 24 to try Thidranki, but if I can help someone else on the way, all well and good.

 

[Vim]

Re: Re: Re: As posted in the other thread ...

Originally posted by Kharok Svark
As I said in the other thread too ... it is an offer to help, if needed.

I do not wish to power level to 50, but if you guys wanna get going and find yourselves short an SM, I am willing to help.

I am taking several alts to 24 to try Thidranki, but if I can help someone else on the way, all well and good.

Of course i understand that, and thanks for your offer But the sad fact is that it might just not work. And we really shouldn't start the group until we are 100% sure that we got all 8.

 

[Vim]

NOTE: Current group setup works like prime until 40+. After lvl40, it will get bit hard for tanks. So if we cannot get 3rd SM, we can take that Skald or additional Sava / S/S Warrior

But if tanks and stunner are skilled, it can be done, and it WILL be faster exp

 

[Vim]

Xsi0s signed up for PAC Healer. He also has Buffbot but cannot do /level 20 then, so i will Powerlevel him to 20 if we don't have to start at Monday

Speccing: 48 PAC 24 Mend :>

 

[old.Downanael]

Originally posted by Vim
Xsi0s signed up for PAC Healer. He also has Buffbot but cannot do /level 20 then, so i will Powerlevel him to 20 if we don't have to start at Monday

Speccing: 48 PAC 24 Mend :>

Dont worry we dont as i have same problem Now just waiting to be able get into subs page so i can active my middy account and get my shammy to 20/24 too

 

[Vim]

Can PL you too :>

Updating my "Guide" post again about training..

 

[Vim]

Z^SaiNT signed up for Supp RM. Ingame nick: Ectolina

 

[Vim]

Might still swap to 3 tanks 2 SM if we cannot get 3 SM's..

Mmrr would want to play tank.. and im only signed up SM. He could also bring both Buffbot and POXBOT

3 SM's 2 Tanks is FASTER but more RISKY.
2 SM's 3 tanks is SLOWER (not much) but MUCH SAFER

Up to you Down.. you decide im in favor of both (Was just abit afraid of the Skald But it's not so terrible either.. Mmrr said he can basically play any tank so if thou want that Skald in .. Skald still takes aggro easily with DD's)

 

[Cami]

posted a link to this thread on the guild board saying we need supp sm's

 

[Brunore]

I can join with a L24 supp sm if you can change the time to 6pm gmt+?

I`m only just leaving work at 5gmt

*edit* I have a L50 shammie as well, 47aug fortehwin!!1

 

[old.Downanael]

Originally posted by Vim
Up to you Down.. you decide im in favor of both (Was just abit afraid of the Skald But it's not so terrible either.. Mmrr said he can basically play any tank so if thou want that Skald in .. Skald still takes aggro easily with DD's)

Let's do it like this We wait this evening and if we dont get 2 more SM's signing up we swap one SM for tank. And thanks Cami


OT: Great guide there Vim

 

[old.Downanael]

Originally posted by Brunore
I can join with a L24 supp sm if you can change the time to 6pm gmt+?

I`m only just leaving work at 5gmt

We have one problem here as some people would prefer earlier starting time,but we shall see.

 

[mid.Bashir]

got a 21 supp Runie (Hairie) , I play from morning till evening anyway so PM me ingame.

Bashir/Rood/Handen/Whispered*/Ugleh*
(*crafters)

 

[Mmrr]

I can play any tank you guys want, problem is that I can't /level it because then I can't bring the healerbot. (haven't got any 50 char on the other acc ) Will have to PL it in some way..

but, what would you guys like most? shield specced warrior or fotm savage?

 

[Cami]

Originally posted by Brunore
I can join with a L24 supp sm if you can change the time to 6pm gmt+?

I`m only just leaving work at 5gmt

*edit* I have a L50 shammie as well, 47aug fortehwin!!1

Pft Brunore, just get on that bicycle and get moving! Lazy git!



And down, i think we shuold give it a little more time, 3 sm's would be much more needed for faster killing with no "serious" mending in group. If i understands it correctly you arent able to get ingame the first few days anyway ?

 

[Vasconcelos]

Originally posted by Vim
NOTE: Current group setup works like prime until 40+. After lvl40, it will get bit hard for tanks. So if we cannot get 3rd SM, we can take that Skald or additional Sava / S/S Warrior

But if tanks and stunner are skilled, it can be done, and it WILL be faster exp

Nice, pm me here or post it in case i could play the skald..