Deception 1.87

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Resident Freddy
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Well ... I did the 400hp 100 con 101 str swapout ml10 offhander blade , dodgy resists thing from rr7-8 and more often than not i have gotten my ass handed to me by any goon rr4+ with a matter/spirit lgm mainhand :(

So now after some thought i have decided to drop 100hp or so overall to fill out all resist holes in a pretty much openended damage type template ... With CL mainhander / Sc'able Lgm blade swapout ... All comments welcome :)

P.S. Some may notice only +7 CD ... With LoTM inc i plan on maybe using my Mythical item slot for extra + CD , if indeed such a one exists :eek:


Config Report

Stats

Str: 103 Int: 0 Hits: 324
Con: 92 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 30 Cha: 0
Qui: 42 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 29 Energy: 13 Crush: 30
Cold: 11 Matter: 27 Thrust: 35 (3)
Heat: 26 Spirit: 26 (5) Slash: 27 (2)

Skills

11 Stealth

11 Critical Strike

7 Celtic Dual

11 Blades

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dex

5 Qui

124 Hits

25 Str

15 Con

Other Bonuses

11 Melee Damage Bonus

20 AF Bonus

10 Melee Speed Bonus

13 Style Damage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard Of Valour
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 40 Hits
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Critical Strike - 99 rough Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 9 Matter Resist - 99 polished Earthen Shielding
Gem 3: 16 Constitution - 99 polished Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 28 Strength - 99 perfect Fiery Essence
Utility: 62.33

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Blades - 99 flawed Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 60 Hits - 99 precious Blood Essence
Gem 4: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Utility: 75.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Blades - 99 flawed Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 60 Hits - 99 precious Blood Essence
Gem 4: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
Utility: 69.67

Hands
Name: MS
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 7: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 5 Stealth - 99 imperfect Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 7 Heat Resist - 99 imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 3: 44 Hits - 99 polished Blood Essence
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - 99 imperfect Earthen Shielding
Utility: 64.00

Right Hand
Name: Champ 1h Weapon
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 12 Strength
Effect 2: 12 Quickness
Effect 3: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 4: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Blades
Effect 6: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 31.00

Left Hand
Name: Malice axe
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Two Handed
Name: 98-99% Sced Lgm Blade
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Quickness
Effect 2: 12 Strength
Effect 3: 3 Blades
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 33.00

Ranged
Name: 1.85 Bonuses
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Celtic Dual
Effect 2: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 3: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 15.00

Neck
Name: Ancient Copper
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 2: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 10 Body Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Som
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Errie Darkness
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 5 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 5 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 5 Cold Resist
Effect 6: 5 Body Resist
Effect 7: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 8: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 9: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 84.00

Belt
Name: Kracken
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 44 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 2: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 8 Body Resist
Effect 4: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 8 Energy Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 64.00

Right Ring
Name: RoD
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 3 Stealth
Effect 3: 15 Strength
Effect 4: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 55.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring o The heavens
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 38.00

Right Wrist
Name: Cyclone Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 11 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Left Wrist
Name: ebonhide
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00
 

Punishment

Resident Freddy
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Obviously everyone is too stunned by its roxness to comment :eek:
 

Tuthmes

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Punishment said:
Obviously everyone is too stunned by its roxness to comment :eek:

Config Report

Stats

Str: 103 Int: 0 Hits: 324
Con: 92 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 30 Cha: 0
Qui: 42 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 29 Energy: 13 Crush: 30
Cold: 11 Matter: 27 Thrust: 35 (3)
Heat: 26 Spirit: 26 (5) Slash: 27 (2)

Skills

11 Stealth

11 Critical Strike

7 Celtic Dual

11 Blades

Idd i am.
 

Ballard

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Its a good template, comments below;

- Dont worry about the lost CD, after the shield boost you wont notice the difference against alot of targets and the difference against other assasins isnt all that noticable.

- personally I think its an average weapon choice. I would go with any of the following instead of either CW or malice offhander;
poc abs slasher
lotm dot slasher
spirit summon (ideally in combo with a normal spirit leggy)
sun sword
There is also the dream weapon from lotm but im not 100% sure it comes in slash and it is also extremely hard to get.


- Drop ebon hide, use lord agramons bracer. Chances are you can make the same template +another 40 hits.
 

Punishment

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What i was aiming for was a template i can use to rr10 that has no resist holes so i can concentrate on winning fights through gameplay , not get pissed all over by low rr because they have found i have x amount of some resist :(

I have yet to look into offhanders for fixed slot tbh , but the mainhand lgm/cl wep swapout i think is the way to go as with the -slash debuff cl wep is best physical wep and lgms speak for themselves ...

Problem with offhanders is that most blades lack melee bonuses/decent stats for fixed offhand slot :eek:
 

Enli

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Ballard said:
Its a good template, comments below;

- Dont worry about the lost CD, after the shield boost you wont notice the difference against alot of targets and the difference against other assasins isnt all that noticable.

- personally I think its an average weapon choice. I would go with any of the following instead of either CW or malice offhander;
poc abs slasher
lotm dot slasher
spirit summon (ideally in combo with a normal spirit leggy)
sun sword
There is also the dream weapon from lotm but im not 100% sure it comes in slash and it is also extremely hard to get.


- Drop ebon hide, use lord agramons bracer. Chances are you can make the same template +another 40 hits.
dreamweapon= the moment of Zen ? (crappy name tho)
and the bracer is not yet possible for us :)
 

Punishment

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I've seen the Zen stats , and they aint so great imo :(

Can anyone tell me a good site for Lotm Drops ?

P.S. Cheers Ballard m8 for heads-up on that bracer , will be hunting that down as soon as is available <3
 

Enli

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Punishment said:
I've seen the Zen stats , and they aint so great imo :(

Can anyone tell me a good site for Lotm Drops ?

P.S. Cheers Ballard m8 for heads-up on that bracer , will be hunting that down as soon as is available <3
end drain and abs debuff not that good? :p

well i just ran down the bestiary at allakhazam :)
 

Ballard

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Enli said:
dreamweapon= the moment of Zen ? (crappy name tho)
and the bracer is not yet possible for us :)

Thread title said deception 1.87, So i assumed it was meant for patch 1.87 which does infact have bracer :)

It takes one full group to kill lord agramon, but bracer is a one time drop (like alot of lotm drops) so everyone in the killing group gets it, thus avoiding massive prices and farming.

I use the lotm section of 'classes of camelot' for finding lotm drops, but it is not 100% up to date and is missing a few of the best items. (like the shield that has a 25% heal proc :eek7: )

Personally I no longer think capped TOA bonuses are 100% mandatory for templates. When you compare a 5% melee bonus versus a dot proc that ticks for 130 damage I think its becomes very hard to justify. Of course Im not advocating dropping them completely just that there can be effective alternatives to the status quo in weapons.
 

Punishment

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I just think its stupid putting bonuses in the game and then not putting those bonuses on anything on later expansions thats worth having ... kinda stupid tbh :(
 

MxN

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Got moment of Zen on my sb, procs like a bitch but the dmg just seems proper shit for some reason, when it procs i switch to Champ and pwnpwn
 

Punishment

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Mxn said:
Got moment of Zen on my sb, procs like a bitch but the dmg just seems proper shit for some reason, when it procs i switch to Champ and pwnpwn

Thats exactly my point ... i want to make a template that sticks with what i know and is safe :D

Capped resists+melee bonuses decent imo = safe

Relying on a proc that might not happen = Unknown territory :(

Also does anyone know if there is a +hp cap cl10 mythic slot item :confused:
 

Jaina

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champ weapon has +4 blades, so you actually have +12 blades
 

Neffneff

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moment of zen is a cool lookin 4.3 spd offhand usable light sabre! its pretty good, but ofc, not crafted/champ/arti, so missing 5% to hit bonus.

and ill let yer in on a secret, its farmable by necro+cleric, so not THAT hard to get. (as are almost all the mobs in the lab, so far with exception of agramon, maghras and muxog)
 

Ballard

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Neffneff said:
moment of zen is a cool lookin 4.3 spd offhand usable light sabre! its pretty good, but ofc, not crafted/champ/arti, so missing 5% to hit bonus.

and ill let yer in on a secret, its farmable by necro+cleric, so not THAT hard to get. (as are almost all the mobs in the lab, so far with exception of agramon, maghras and muxog)

Could a minstrel with say a 46 pet and cleric bot do it?
 

Neffneff

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Ballard said:
Could a minstrel with say a 46 pet and cleric bot do it?

probably not tbh, takes 10 15 mins to kill with servant necro, and he splits several times and spawns a yellow/oj mob that if you dont kill quick (prolly about a minute, not sure) then the main mob absorbs it and heals. @ 50% he spawns about 10 yellow/oj mobs that need to be dealt with swiftly.

not entirely sure what a petstril can do with buffs, but it seemed not _easy_ with necro+cleric...but definately doable. personally farmed 2 of these swords.
 

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