willowywicca
Fledgling Freddie
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Yes.
All radar users should be banned outright too, not suspended.
All radar users should be banned outright too, not suspended.
Requiel said:Our standard policy for people caught using third party programs is to terminate the account without warning. This particular episode is a one off warning to all cheaters who use 3rd party programs. After this, there will be no more warnings. Use radar or a macro tool and you will lose your account permanently even if you've not been caught before. Also we know who has been caught. Any further breaches of the CoC by them will result in a termination - even for things that wouldn't normally result in such a harsh penalty such as kill-stealing or harrassment.
There are no double standards, we will continue to punish cheats and to provide a fair platform for honest players.
If we catch you using it you'll lose your account. You aren't allowed to use any 3rd party software to give you an advantage in game or automate game tasks. Doesn't matter if you're AFK or not, you'll be banned regardless. It does give you an advantage as you can leave the program to trinket/skill for you while you are doing something else, any other crafter wouldn't have that advantage. It doesn't have to impact directly on another person's game play to be punishable. It's clearly stated in the CoC that you cannot use programs like this, regardless of what area of the game you are talking about. No difference between cheating in PvE, cheating in RvR, cheating as a crafter or whatever, all are treated equally seriously.GimpStrole said:Always wanted to ask this but never got round to it.
What is your view on auto-craft programs?
Many people can't be bothered to sit there for hours making hinges. I personaly have no problem with using auto-craft programs JUST for making hinges, because in a polite way, it's boring as fuck sitting there concentrating on making hinges as fast as you can because you know it's going to take forever!
Tesla Monkor said:I don't really think that is the case. There aren't that many radar users, and the ones that do use it get a 2 week ban. If they come back and do it again, they get another (longer?) ban, etc. In the meantime they still keep paying for the account they can't play. Perma-ban would kill the account.
Who's using who here, now?
I agree totally with Skar it IS double standards.Requiel said:Our standard policy for people caught using third party programs is to terminate the account without warning. <SNIP>
There are no double standards, we will continue to punish cheats and to provide a fair platform for honest players.
Tesla Monkor said:I don't really think that is the case. There aren't that many radar users, and the ones that do use it get a 2 week ban.
SkarIronfist said:I remember in the not to distant past that GOA Banned people for using crafting macro's. After a long thread, I remember that one of the GOA representatives stated that just because Mythic suspended people, GOA would follow their own judgement and do what they felt was best. Since macroing was a use of a 3rd party program and there would be a non tolerance attitude to these program.
I remember at the time, NF was just out in the US and people said, well Mythic are only warning people, don't you think this is an over reaction.
So now GOA have decided to "Suspend" people for Radar use - I know I am poorly educated, but is that perchance a 3rd party program.
I have to say from my stand point, which I consider the worse crime and it wasn't the use of a crafting macro.
So I hope someone from GOA will personally re invite that person back into the game and say "Sorry we over reacted - heres your account back and theres a free month".
Also, when you make a decision of the sort you made on banning someone for a crafting macro, next time take a long term view, since it will come back and bite you on the ass.
I didn't know the person who got banned, couldn't ultimately care, but I really get annoyed at double standards.
Requiel said:If we catch you using it you'll lose your account. You aren't allowed to use any 3rd party software to give you an advantage in game or automate game tasks. Doesn't matter if you're AFK or not, you'll be banned regardless. It does give you an advantage as you can leave the program to trinket/skill for you while you are doing something else, any other crafter wouldn't have that advantage. It doesn't have to impact directly on another person's game play to be punishable. It's clearly stated in the CoC that you cannot use programs like this, regardless of what area of the game you are talking about. No difference between cheating in PvE, cheating in RvR, cheating as a crafter or whatever, all are treated equally seriously.
sko said:If you have played World of Warcraft, you'll see the crafting system has a "Create All" button. This stacks the maximum number of -whatever- you can make calculated from the ammount of reagents you have on you, and then you can be afk while the toon makes it himself. I don't really see why or how this can be an "advantage to others".
Requiel said:If we catch you using it you'll lose your account. You aren't allowed to use any 3rd party software to give you an advantage in game or automate game tasks. Doesn't matter if you're AFK or not, you'll be banned regardless. It does give you an advantage as you can leave the program to trinket/skill for you while you are doing something else, any other crafter wouldn't have that advantage. It doesn't have to impact directly on another person's game play to be punishable. It's clearly stated in the CoC that you cannot use programs like this, regardless of what area of the game you are talking about. No difference between cheating in PvE, cheating in RvR, cheating as a crafter or whatever, all are treated equally seriously.
My personal opinion is much the same. On my personal account I have an LGM crafter and I know many people (including my wife) who have LGM crafters who all gained their points honestly. Cheating is cheating and cheating at crafting is not less of a crime than cheating in RvR or scamming gold off newbies.GimpStrole said:Fair enough.
I did ask you what you thought not GoA but I guess you're not allowed to have an opinion if you work for those weirdos.
Merry Christmas \o/
Requiel said:my wife
sko said:Bah! How come some guys have to be single while others got a job AND a wife that plays games? IRL cheats imo.
Some are just whores.. like skoKrakatau said:Not all people are/were (depending if they quit game or not) ARRPEEE whores...
Some are/were CRAFTING whores...
Ban Zapsi!Zapsi said:Ban all Ventrillo users is cheat, only Team speak is ok !
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