Damage dealer

[semanon]

Mids have Savages, Albs have Mercs...what is the Hib equivalent of these melle damage dealers?

 

[Raven]

Mids have Savages, Albs have Mercs...what is the Hib equivalent of these melle damage dealers?

Blademasters if melee, enchanters/elds if not

 

[censi]

in terms of big hits VW is closest to the savage.

if det gets nerfed (and with 99% of the daoc community crying out for the nerf) VW could be the new hib fotm.

 

[Rauno]

why is everyone so sure determ will get nerf cos im not so sure think about that

 

[Khefru]

Nerf det and there is no point in the 3 realms heavy tanks.

 

[Loxleyhood]

Det is likely to be nerfed in Fronteirs.

 

[Boni]

Bm is the hib equivalent. Though 2h specs like CS and LW Heros/Champs can also deal good melee dmg.

 

[Boni]

why is everyone so sure determ will get nerf cos im not so sure think about that

Because its so obviously overpowered, the sheer number of people that spec det4+ shows it needs a nerf, simple statistics should point mytic at the nerf button.

 

[Funkdocta]

it will get a nerf but i doubt it will be much, maybe a slight reduction in effectiveness.

 

[Squalion]

VW's with Spd 6 Scythes & Side Style Chains imo

 

[Asty]

Actually i dont think det will be nerfed. But imo if it does it should be a very small nerf. Det is overpowered but if they nerfed it too bad tank groups wouldn't be common anymore. Besides even with the overpowered det melee groups and caster groups are mostly quite even, especially now after toa. Variety=good

 

[LordjOX]

Mids have Savages, Albs have Mercs...what is the Hib equivalent of these melle damage dealers?

Blademasters :>
all dual wielder's, det tanks with sort of "medium" armor (studded-chain-reinf)

altho VW's can do sum nasty dmg! (especially with side-chain)

 

[Aliorm]

The NS is a good dmg dealer too

And yes, deter should be nerfed to 3%-5% each level, as the other RAs, a RA who cost 1,2,3,6 and 10 pts and giv u 15% each lvl is so overpowered when only few class can get access to have that..

The deter giv to DAoC a new RvR style, and no good one really

I hope when New Frontiers arrive it will be solved

 

[Radix]

I dont really see problem with determination, to me the problem is crowd controlls dominance in every fight.

I dont like battles to basicly just be about what side lands the mez first.
and druids GP on 30min timer is no real defence against the massive amount of CC we face out in the field.

 

[Behmoth]

cc is part of the game if a little overpowered but its not as over powered as det a caster has little chance atm in rvr a higher rr caster stands some chance but they are always the 1st to die they need some thing to keep them alive and cc or sprint is the only option

 

[Garax]

For all those old skool players who played RvR back in the day of no RA's then i would say that main tanks need det just the way it is. Until RA's came into effect i spent most fights being cc'd and then watched the rest of my group being wiped out while i stood there like a muppet unable to do anything but just change the position i viewed.

It's all well and good screaming for a det nerf, but theres no fuckin way would i want to go back to the old days where tanks were just cannon fodder, and just stood there unable to protect their group mates in any way.

At least with determination your group actually has a chance to try and swing the tides of battle and save your support classes. Without det, fights would be over in 10 seconds, as they used to be in the old days, which lead to mucho moans from the tanks classes back then.

The introduction of determination has made groups assist each other better, which imo can only be a good thing.

 

[Drungan]

from what i've read about frontiers i guess determination will cost 1,3,6,10,14 then and not any longer 1,2,3,6,10. that alone will "nerf" it a bit, as there won't be anymore warders with det4, and det3 makes quitesome difference to det 4 or even 5.

regarding the original question:

dmg dealer in melee = VW, look at their style growthrates and stuff, think it will and does already outdamage BMs, + has the option to just nuke mages to bits with taps etc