Cross realm teaming punks

[Arthwyr]

Just came from thdranki and guess what I went there for the last time because of you Lame Punk ass cross realm teaming mid / hib gameplay ruining scum. 25+ Hibs mids standing side by side, pulling and killing guards together and crossteaming on the 4 to 12 albs in thidranki at the time. Just as I was starting to enjoy the uptill now nice RvR there you have to degrade yourselves to the tricks of your higher leveled realm mates. Oh maybe you are just the alts of the same muppets that started the teaming in emain in the first place. Well here is news for you.
" xxx SAYS SOMETHING IN A LANGUAGE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND " is put in the game for a reason. You are not supposed to team. Took some screenies too btw, privilige of being an infil I guess. Can't be arsed to upload em now but Im sure they can come in handy someday. Carry on, make your realm proud you spineless lemmings.

Arthwyr LvL 50 Paladin
Gawain LvL 24 Infiltrator
GM <Exiled>

 

[Eblessair]

rofl
whine whine

 

[old.Machiavelli npv]

oop someone got owned


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Machiavelli - Level 50 Eldritch - Grove Protector

(npv = Non Plagiarised Version.)

*Na Fianna* Hibernia , Excalibur.

 

[Arthwyr]

Well actualy i dont think its funny anymore, why dont you go fire up IRC and scout your frontiers together. It's another thing you people are good at. Maybe get hibs to watch mid rellics and the other way around, then again skip that idea, mids dont have rellics ... silly me. And no i did not get owned i got chased by a couple of shadowblades after pulling a PA on a wounded firebolg. Walked around about 20 mins taking nice screenies of what seemed to be the reunion of ugly people.

oh just to refresh your mind
http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25448

 

[cjkace]

This guy from the same realm that can send upwards of 100+ peeps in a zerg against 40 hibs?

Cross realm teaming is not against the rules and while it seems some have a problem, others do not. Get used to it. We have to live with a bigger population of active higher level albs, all with a 20% melee bonus.

There will come a time when one realm owns all 6 relics, and if that realm also has the highest population of lvl45+ then what are the other 2 realms supposed to do? Let the powerful realm farm them? Soon get very, very boring.

Anyone noticed the state of RvR in general at the moment? People are bored shitless with the zerg, mez, blast/melee - repeat and rinse cycle. This isn't going to change for quite some time so I guess we had all better get used to it.

I think a small part of this problem is siege equipment (which is supposedly being looked into). As far as I am aware most siege engines had wheels, and if we got catapults and ballista with wheels then this would make RvR a little more interesting.

eg - Build a catapult at Crau, wheel down to bowl, chuck rocks at AMG - obviously these could be captured on route etc

I don't want to go on about population imbalances but it is quite obvious that there is one. I would estimate that most of the time it is 40%Alb, 30%Mid, 30%Hib, but the telling factor is that the extra 10% of Albs all seem to be more interested in RvR, so its not really that one realm has more people per se, it is that one realm has more people who want to RvR. This isn't the fault of any realm but is just the way it is. A lot of it can be put down to Alb/Mid having different spells etc, which is fixed in 1.51 for Hib and it is interesting that in the first week of 1.51 in the US, Hibernia (least populated realm on nearly every US server) took the lead in RP totals on over 50% of the servers, resulting in the usual NERF screams.

Whatever the reasons are this is supposed to be a game of FUN. How much fun can it be when you OWN all opponents?

 

[Novamir]

lol Arth =)

 

[K0nah]

Originally posted by cjkace
This guy from the same realm that can send upwards of 100+ peeps in a zerg against 40 hibs?

Cross realm teaming is not against the rules and while it seems some have a problem, others do not. Get used to it. We have to live with a bigger population of active higher level albs, all with a 20% melee bonus.

There will come a time when one realm owns all 6 relics, and if that realm also has the highest population of lvl45+ then what are the other 2 realms supposed to do? Let the powerful realm farm them? Soon get very, very boring.

Anyone noticed the state of RvR in general at the moment? People are bored shitless with the zerg, mez, blast/melee - repeat and rinse cycle. This isn't going to change for quite some time so I guess we had all better get used to it.

I think a small part of this problem is siege equipment (which is supposedly being looked into). As far as I am aware most siege engines had wheels, and if we got catapults and ballista with wheels then this would make RvR a little more interesting.

eg - Build a catapult at Crau, wheel down to bowl, chuck rocks at AMG - obviously these could be captured on route etc

I don't want to go on about population imbalances but it is quite obvious that there is one. I would estimate that most of the time it is 40%Alb, 30%Mid, 30%Hib, but the telling factor is that the extra 10% of Albs all seem to be more interested in RvR, so its not really that one realm has more people per se, it is that one realm has more people who want to RvR. This isn't the fault of any realm but is just the way it is. A lot of it can be put down to Alb/Mid having different spells etc, which is fixed in 1.51 for Hib and it is interesting that in the first week of 1.51 in the US, Hibernia (least populated realm on nearly every US server) took the lead in RP totals on over 50% of the servers, resulting in the usual NERF screams.

Whatever the reasons are this is supposed to be a game of FUN. How much fun can it be when you OWN all opponents?

Hibs classes r already unbalanced to favor the lower population - they added the m00se because of it among other things.

And ur advocating an alliance of 2x 30% realms making a 60% vs a 40% funilly enuf about what ur alledgedly "suffering" now... oh dear. Lamerz. The game is called Dark Age of Camelot, Albion is SUPPOSED to be the dominant realm fs, we fight off a bunch of savages on one side and a bunch of fags in dresses on the other.

 

[old.Ryzar]

Originally posted by K0nah


And ur advocating an alliance of 2x 30% realms making a 60% vs a 40% funilly enuf about what ur alledgedly "suffering" now... oh dear. Lamerz. The game is called Dark Age of Camelot, Albion is SUPPOSED to be the dominant realm fs, we fight off a bunch of savages on one side and a bunch of fags in dresses on the other.

R - O - F - L

 

[cjkace]

Have you ever played in Hibernia?

The moose is the only advantage over an other realm that I have seen. We don't have any insta mez/root/stun as far as I am aware.

If you had read my post I don't advocate a 60% vs 40% alliance UNLESS all relics are owned by the 40% realm which would give them 20% increases in strength and power.

And if Hib classes are so 'unbalanced' why do they get so much loving in 1.51?

As for your reference to Dark Age of Camelot and Albion being the dominant realm try reading first.

http://www.britannia.com/history/arthur/kamyth.html

http://www.britannia.com/history/cadcast.html

http://www.britannia.com/history/biographies/merlin.html

Much of this game is historically inaccurate so pointing to silly stuff like that just makes you look....well silly.

Another example is plate armour - not invented till over 600 years after the reign of Arthur, so heavy that knights had to be lifted onto horses (if they fell off they were screwed) and crossbows were invented to combat plate armour yet it is Albion that has crossbows.

At the end of the day this is a game, based in a fantasy setting. We have dragons, magic etc. It should be played for fun and there is no fun when 1 realm (whichever it might be in future patches) can dominate.

 

[Khefru]

I'm afraid that you will just have to live with some cross realm teaming. As an alb, you have chosen to play the on the most populated and dominant realm and as a result the most hated.

Why attack the small army of Mids and loose a lot of ppl in the process, just to let the 100 zerg swamp our wounded army with ease. Isn't it better battle tactics for Mids and Hibs to attack the strongest opposition first?

I personally prefer nothing better than listening to a troll getting the 7 shades of s**t kicked out of him, but I realise that all lame zerg must die first or otherwise its the usuall mezz/gank/release crap that is becomming so usuall in all RvR (BG aswell).

Live with it.

 

[-Dreama-]

Personally I don't care about anything in RvR as I have 95% given up on after walking out of tele keep and getting ganked 90% of the time. I don't even step foot in emain without the protection of the Alb army. So when you guys complain about zerging and what not, remember who it is that brought it on. You, by camping the keep and wall and ganking every grey con stragler that wanders by. The battlegrounds were put in place so people could learn to RvR. Why? Because in the larger RvR grounds a person can not stand a chance without a big army if they are an RvR noob. And now it seems even BG is hopeless to learn how to RvR and use tatics.

I have a feeling that in the near future you'll see loads less people who even care about the RvR statis. I don't know, maybe when I have 4 chars to lvl 50 and have no more xping to do and have every single uber drop in my possesion for each char I'll give a damn about RvR again. Untill then ganking has ruined it for me.

 

[cjkace]

I have some sympathy with you Dreama but I'm afraid we didn't start it first really.

My first real taste of RvR was when I stepped out of Ligen, got to the first slope in the gorge and was shot to pieces by a purple mid. The next time I tried it was an alb. I have lost count of the times that I've been ganked by lvl50 Albs or Mids omw to Emain and believe me at BM pace it's damn slow. At least its not far for you to walk from the TK (altho the horse ride is probly a long way).

I've been 29 points from 50,000 (not a bad score for a solo RvRer) for about a week and just can't be bothered anymore. Whatever you do, you get flamed now and the worst part is that you can even get sucked into the now constant flame wars on these forums.

Take a relic at 6PM - get flamed.

Take a relic at 1AM - get flamed.

Use superior numbers to win - get flamed.

Form a temporary cross realm truce - get flamed.

Use local mobs to win - get flamed.

Use keep guards - get flamed.

Live in Hibernia - get flamed.

Live in Midgard - get flamed.

Live in Albion - get flamed.

 

[old.Ozwin]

Dont worry about it too much. In 2nd week they tried same thing. Hibs have to as they got totally slaughtered all the time anyway. We mowed them both down then then they went back to fighting each other when they came back.

 

[mcdonalds]

Funny

Originally posted by K0nah


The game is called Dark Age of Camelot, Albion is SUPPOSED to be the dominant realm fs, we fight off a bunch of savages on one side and a bunch of fags in dresses on the other.

funny funny funny



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Adios 21st season fun loving inf

 

[daarken]

Originally posted by cjkace

and crossbows were invented to combat plate armour yet it is Albion that has crossbows.

Crossbows gained popularity not because of their effectiveness against plate, but because monkeys could be trained to fire them...so it's quite fitting albion has them

 

[Zag Barr]

I just stoped reading flames, and even if I happen to read one by accident, I just don't answer.

Arthwyr (Albs) wanted to have a nice evening in the BG. He got zerged - he flamed.
Mids wanted to enjoy their +20% melee for a while longer. They lost it - they flamed.
Hibs failed with their relic attempt. They flamed.

Flames happen, when people get really frustrated in the game. When they take a big effort to achieve something or hold on to something - and they fail. They log off, go on the board and vent their anger in flames.

The 3 enemy realm thing works really well. Each of the realms hates their enemies - one more, then another.

The problem is, that they do not only hate the enemy realm, some even hate every single player on those enemy realms for chosing this particular realm and not another one. All this hatred and prejudice out there, stops us from seeing another person behind that Invader, who wants to enjoy RvR as much as we do. They compete with us and just do the best they can do to win this fight. Okay, this involves killing you - but you didn't really get hurt, did you? You didn't even loose any stats or gold. All you have to do is release, run to the pad and try again. What's the big deal?

Yes, it get's frustrating at times. But there is better ways of dealing with frustration, then flaming on this board. You could read a book for example, watch some TV or even level an alt. Maybe you could even try get your fellow fighters organised and try some tactics, so you win the next fight. All is better really, then flaming here.

Long gone are the days, when you could roam the frontier by yourself and get spared by a FG of enemies - or given a chance by having to fight just one of the eight - instead you will be stunned, jumped and killed before you can get of a single emote.

It's been a long time since anyone wrote, that we are all people, who are playing this game for fun - and in order to have fun, we need our enemies.

:wub: I love you Hibs and Mids

Just get some plastic surgery please

 

[old.Odies]

Eblessair, Machiavelli and Novamir: Stop defending crossteamers, it's lame beyond belief and you all know that, posting sarcastic remarks directed towards arthwyr will only add fuel to the fire and this crossteaming bullshit will only get worse.

Cjkace: Albion is the only realm with high lvls, albions have more people than the other 2 realms combined, albion is the only realm that zergs, albion is the............... STOP, SHUT THE FUCK UP and step away from the keyboard. Posting erronous information about numbers will earn you nothing except ridicule, and actively defending crossteamers as "not against the rules" is not only THE most lame argument you could pick, it's also 100% FALSE! Crossteaming IS against the rules but like dueling/rpfarming Mythic has no real way of enforcing their rules.

Khefru: Oh my god will you shut the fuck up already, there is NO VALID NOR CREDENT defense of crossteaming, your bullshit theories about forced crossteaming is pitiful at best and hold no basis in reality at all. You, like countless others are sick and tired of this zerg crap in emain but again like many others you have no concept of what the real problem is so you just jump on the bandwagon like any other wannabe. Maybe once you get some experience you will develop the needed insight to comment on rvr but as for now your so called oppinions are worth crap.

- Odies

 

[_null_]

Odies, you don't think killing the most powerful enemy first and then going on fighting the weaker one is valid tactics?

Besides, cj never said that only albs zerg. All he did say is that they have the biggest RvR population thus they have the best chance to zerg. And he never said that albs have more than more people than the other 2 realms combined.

Again to crossteaming across realms:
In case alb took all relics and even more of their population started RvR:ing, you're saying that we still have to fight eachother first, before fighting the much larger alb army with +20% melee damage and +20% spell damage.

Next time, read the posts and consider them before flaming.
Thank you

 

[Salazar]

Mmm... isnt Odies owning everyone... damn. Whatever it takes to keep server balanced and albionscum at bay. Crossrealming if needed. And Odies... read CoC plz. I think Mythic at some point even stated out that crossrealming is preferable action if some realm starts to get too dominating.

As for it being lame... so be it... as long as it makes albs mad

 

[Zag Barr]

@ - null -

For your information: Albion does not have a +20% power bonus. Albion has no power bonus and only one Power relic. We intend to keep it, so Hibs do not gain more than +10% Power bonus.

You might have noticed, that Albion did not try for your power relics. I guess we aren't too concerned about that +10%.

But believe it or not, many player in Albion are concerned about the balance of the server and lots wouldn't join a raid that gives us all 6 relics. Well I wouldn't - unless maybe you had all the power relics and +20%, I would think about it

I also beleive Albion would have never gone for all 3 strength relics, if Midgard wouldn't have had them first. This however does not mean, we are going to give one or two away without putting up a fight

As far as I am concerned, you can crossteam all you want. I didn't notice it really ever stopped anyways. Everything that makes you happy, makes us happier as well.

 

[_null_]

Actually I didn't say albs have all relics, all I said was that _if_ they had them, what would Odies have us do?
Though they might already have them as i havent played since 12.00 pm yesterday

 

[Belsameth]

Yes, it get's frustrating at times. But there is better ways of dealing with frustration, then flaming on this board. You could read a book for example, watch some TV or even level an alt. Maybe you could even try get your fellow fighters organised and try some tactics, so you win the next fight. All is better really, then flaming here.

Look at Ferlash and me after my first (failed) attempt at taking the Caledonian keep.
he has my utmost respect, and we gave eachother one hell of a fight. even though neither of us would waste a chance to kill the other.

I look forward to meeting him again on the field of battle, both because he's an enemy, AND because I know he'll not cry when he loses but salute my cunning and bravery instead. like I do his when I die...

face it, we need eachother. RvR is fun with only 1 realm.
there's no waste in honouring those who put up a nice fight. no matter if you win or lose

 

[Gahldir]

Odie, get the fuck of Khefrus back, read his post and try to think beore you even consider to flame this!

btw, albs have the highest population on exca, but do they have 90% of the population? cuz I'm starting to think that they surely must have 90% of the forum-idiots..

 

[Zag Barr]

Answering a personal insult with another personal insult, answering over the edge bad language with more f-words, will not help to set a better tone in this forum.

Idiots are best ignored. By answering idiots you just encourage them to post more ...

 

[Arthwyr]

Just to set some things straight, I did not mention persons in the game just a general group of teaming twats.
The twats were there there to team up against the zerging albs in thidranki ( /who thidranki ... 4 names at the start of the teaming 7 names later) If you want to team go to emain, who cares I'll be happy to slap you back into the pit you crawled from with the help of an experienced RvR group. Thidranki however is for lower levels to get their first experience in RvR and for alts who run around in it to get some refreshment in gameplay. Well its not refreshing anymore, its the same gamerule bending bullocks for our alts and its not a nice first experience for new players who probably don't have a clue as of why 25+ people from both other realms gank em and then sit down next to eachother to rest, to gank the next alb that comes walking by. I've been asked the past days to set up a trip to capture some power rellics the past week and i was a bit reluctant because it would give albion all the rellics, guess that has changed. Better keep an eye on em and i mean ALL the time even VERY late at night.

Arthwyr

 

[cjkace]

Originally posted by old.Odies

Cjkace: Albion is the only realm with high lvls, albions have more people than the other 2 realms combined, albion is the only realm that zergs, albion is the............... STOP, SHUT THE FUCK UP and step away from the keyboard. Posting erronous information about numbers will earn you nothing except ridicule, and actively defending crossteamers as "not against the rules" is not only THE most lame argument you could pick, it's also 100% FALSE! Crossteaming IS against the rules but like dueling/rpfarming Mythic has no real way of enforcing their rules.

- Odies

hmm did I really say the things above - NOPE

I would advise you put your brain into gear before flaming me.

All I have said is ifs.

Only the dumbest Alb would say that they don't have the largest number of hi-level active RvRers. This has been demonstrated time and time again, the latest time was the hib power relic attempt.

Do I hate your zerg tactics? Yes

Do I like to be in a hib zerg? Yes

The only viable tactic in this game is to have larger numbers than your enemy. This is not the fault of any realm but of Mythic themselves. They tried to create a situation where 3 balanced realms could fight amongst each other and failed. Cross realm alliances are not permanent, never have been and never will be. They happen on the spur of the moment when it is mutually advantageous.

Tell me if the boot was on the other foot what would you do?

Lets say for example than the server was limited to 2000 people of which 50% were Hibs (1000) and 25% each Mid/Alb (500 each). Now lets say that of Hibs 1000, a quarter are lvl45+ and 25% of alb/mid were.

Hib = 250 lvl45+
Alb = 125 lvl45+
Mid = 125 lvl45+

Now because of Hib superior numbers they also own all 6 relics gaining 20% extra strength and power.

Now lets say that both Alb and Mid decided to go relic raiding at the same time and bumped into each other in the bowl. Would you seriously fight amongst yourselves or simply ignore each other? Would you point to each other then point in the dircetion of the relic forts?

I think we all know what would happen.

Albs would go for one relic fort, Mids go for the other, thereby splitting the defense in half. To do otherwise would be stupid in the extreme. An alliance - no. A temporary truce - yes.

Midgard and Hibernia are not allies.

We may call a temporary truce when it is to the benefit of both, and the downfall of another, and if you can't handle that then maybe you would be better off elsewhere.

 

[old.Odies]

Odies, you don't think killing the most powerful enemy first and then going on fighting the weaker one is valid tactics?

Of course that is a valid tactic, but it's not a valid tactic in daoc if you eliminate the "and then going on fighting the weaker one" part, and THAT in essence is what this post is about, truces have NO place in daoc and the people who do take part in truces deserve every single word that gets thrown in their face.

Besides, cj never said that only albs zerg. All he did say is that they have the biggest RvR population thus they have the best chance to zerg. And he never said that albs have more than more people than the other 2 realms combined.

No he never said that albs had twice the population of mid/hib combined but that is what his whining hinted at so i followed up on that, same with the only alb zergs comment, it is clearly what he implies in his whining and I just put him down because people like him need to understand that just because you cry about something doesn't make it so. What he did say was that alb has the biggest rvr population and I simply stated, however rude, that he was either mistaken or lying, anyone who says alb has a substantially larger rvr population haven't spent enough time in emain to make that faulty observation, we get zerged just as much as hibs/mids.

In case alb took all relics and even more of their population started RvR:ing, you're saying that we still have to fight eachother first, before fighting the much larger alb army with +20% melee damage and +20% spell damage.

Yeah... We would own so bad if we just had all relics and 1k lvl 50s... Don't speak of lame hypothetical situations which won't happen, serves absolutely nothing.

Next time, read the posts and consider them before flaming.

Take your own advice.

- Odies

 

[Belsameth]

I can only salute Crossrealm teaming as good tacktics
and a nice way to bring down Albions superior numbers

/bow hibs and mids

at least that way we're getting some real opposition from you

 

[Zag Barr]

*sigh*

<stops waving the white flag and throws it into the dirt>

After spending a whole morning to sooth flame wars in this forum for a little while, people still pick the most idiotic post in a thread and decide to answer to it.

<turns his back to the forum and goes back to ignoring flames>

Flame away - you seem to have fun doing it.

 

[hellopp]

ROLF u stupid albs face it no one likes u, ur too many and it sux, i was one of the people who made that alliance and we kicked ur stupid metal asses, to face it, STOP CAMPING THE MID TK< U GUYS SUCK FOR THAT< TRY FAIR FIGHTS!!!!