Croc's Tooth Dagger

Vasconcelos

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Like Malice's Axe, a pain in the ass to level.
It only levels from ToA crocodriles (mainly found in Stygian Delta). But the crappy thing is that it has a "special" way to level:
- it gets 1% from each croc u kill (means 1000 crocs to get it to lvl 10)
- no matter the cons of the croc, artifact allways get the same 1% (tested it with iter crocs which con purp and riverside croc which con low yellow)
- and the most painfully thing: xp drops after killing the 1st kill of each type of croco. I mean, you can kill 1 riverside crocodrile and get 1% exp, but dont expect to get another 1% xp from the 2nd riverside crocodrile.
So basically u have to change type of crocodrile to keep getting 1% each kill.


Said it, Any1 knows a good spot of crocos with different types of it and good respawn rate?? You can find camps of 2-3 crocos at StygianDelta but all of the same type :(
 

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Vasconcelos said:
- it gets 1% from each croc u kill (means 1000 crocs to get it to lvl 10)
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Vasconcelos said:
- no matter the cons of the croc, artifact allways get the same 1% (tested it with iter crocs which con purp and riverside croc which con low yellow)
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Vasconcelos said:
- and the most painfully thing: xp drops after killing the 1st kill of each type of croco. I mean, you can kill 1 riverside crocodrile and get 1% exp, but dont expect to get another 1% xp from the 2nd riverside crocodrile.
So basically u have to change type of crocodrile to keep getting 1% each kill.
incorrect


It levels in exactly the same way as every other artifact - the amount of XP you gain from a kill is the amount of XP your artifact gains from a kill.
A level on an artifact is not made of 100 units (i.e. 1% each kill), but the display does not provide you with exact numerical information.
 

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Well, i didnt know about the exact numerical information displayed (only the percentage based on swift+I display), but i can assure you that after killing like 100+ croc:

- purp, red, orange or yellow cons, the info displayed on swift+I about xp gained from artifact after killing the mob is 1% (at this point its true that because we are unable to see the exact amount of xp mebbe its higher from purp cons than from yellow)

I did the following easy test:
- killed 1 riverside croc, info of xp artifact showed +1% (and again we cannot see the exact amount of xp coz its not displayed by the current system). Killed a 2nd riverside croc, i gained xp but no +1% (so i guess xp droped for a considerable amount).
- killed 1 riverside croc = +1% xp, followed with securas croc = +1%, followed with black croc = +1% (all of em yellow cons), followed with iter croc = +1%, (purp cons), followed with riverside croc again: +1%,....


Mebbe is not true and my theory fails, but following that secuence, Croc Tooth should be lvl 10 after 1000 crocs.
 

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Q: I want to know if the amount of experience my character earns is related to the experience my artifacts earn. More specifically, on my level 43 minstrel, if I hunt yellows and get 20m xp, or greens and get 1m xp, will my artifact get more xp from yellows or greens. Also, will my artifact get more xp from hunting yellows at 45, say, getting 30m xp, than at 43, getting 20m xp. Thanks!

A: Again, we turn to the Mistress for the answer (although she was not the designer, she is the one who has been working on them and addressing your feedback and concerns): ”The amount of experience earned for the artifact directly corresponds to the experience earned by the player. Hunting monsters worth 30 million experience points will level the artifact quicker than monsters worth only 20 million experience points.”


If you are solo killing purple, red, orange crocs, you'll get ~65 mill XP - thus your dagger will gain ~65 mill XP.
If you are solo killing yellows you might only get 30-40 mill XP - thus your dagger only gains 30-40 mill XP.


If you see the delve of your dagger go from 2% to 3% it might have only really gone from 1.8% to 2.6%.
Kill another croc for the same XP and it would go from 2.6% to 3.4% and thus the display stays at 3%.

In other words, you don't need to kill 1000 crocs to get level 10, you need to gain XX,XXX,XXX,XXX experience from killing crocs (actual XP number required varies per artifact, but it's probably between 50-100 billion XP).
 

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Pin said:
If you are solo killing purple, red, orange crocs, you'll get ~65 mill XP - thus your dagger will gain ~65 mill XP.
If you are solo killing yellows you might only get 30-40 mill XP - thus your dagger only gains 30-40 mill XP.


If you see the delve of your dagger go from 2% to 3% it might have only really gone from 1.8% to 2.6%.
Kill another croc for the same XP and it would go from 2.6% to 3.4% and thus the display stays at 3%.

In other words, you don't need to kill 1000 crocs to get level 10, you need to gain XX,XXX,XXX,XXX experience from killing crocs (actual XP number required varies per artifact, but it's probably between 50-100 billion XP).

Ah! Very nice info thx! :D

Tho it leaves me with a thought: is it worth to solo red/purps instead of yellow/oranges considering: a)downtime b)risk of being killed c)xp over a given period of time (65M from a purp against 40M from a yellow/orange), lets say 2hours?? Imo not.
 

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Soloed riverside crocs to get lvl 1 on the damn thign

wasnt even fun for a merc.

gave up. the looks are sooooo bad.
 

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Vasconcelos said:
Ah! Very nice info thx! :D

Tho it leaves me with a thought: is it worth to solo red/purps instead of yellow/oranges considering: a)downtime b)risk of being killed c)xp over a given period of time (65M from a purp against 40M from a yellow/orange), lets say 2hours?? Imo not.

Well, seeing as you cap xp on some oranges, it's best to just fight them for max xp. However, it's xp over time that is important, not xp per kill. Taking into account time to kill, downtime and risk of death (always nasty downtime), whats giving you xp quickest? This is usually class dependant, but you can see how quick you are gaining xp by timing how long it takes you to get to 500 million xp or so and try it on different camps and cons, see what gives you the highest xp rate gain.
 

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i think the problem with that test is that u forgot that first mob u kill to exp an artifact always grants 1%(if ur test started with that) so ur first kill was 1%, no matter con u could have kille da green and get 1%, then kill a purp and dont get the lvl, i think the usual is 3 orange mobs(lets say 55 -68m exp) its worth 2%, this works with harpoy cloak, Scarab Vest and with many other artifacts. Btw, Croco tooth is a easy artifact to exp if u have arleady exped cloak and Vest(as i have) due to the simple fact that u have loads of more spots to lvl it that the other 2 :>.
 

Sinned

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It's wicked how some artifacts are so easy and others so hard to level


My shades of mist was lvl 10 of 2-3 hours pvp and after like 10 hours of soloing gorgon maidens( yellow/orange con , high parry, insta lifetap/dot and can style up to 200+ on chain armor) my golden spear is barely level 4 :m00:
 

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Try leveling the Scorpions Tail ring as a claeric...then you know pain!
 

Healer McHeal

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GSV is a bitch to lvl aswell, friend of mine got GSV first, got it to lvl 2, then got a SoM, and got it to lvl 10 before the GSV was lvl 4... and both got xp from same things, as SoM gets it while your solo.

(PS, swords, get to the petz arena :p)
 

AtomicBattleHamster

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Aye my GSV is lvl 9 atm and its painfully slow xp wise (especially as good mythic kill camp bonus quickly in the ToA zones, from what I can gather)

If I see another Nih, blazing, sunburst or prism scarab it will be too soon !
 

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swords said:
Try leveling the Scorpions Tail ring as a claeric...then you know pain!

Pretty much same for shaman too :(

most of time I spend more time killing the giant scorps that aggro me, and of course those dont give exp tot he ring.
 

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