Counter-Strike V1.0 Released

[old.Cannon_Trodder]

Counter-Strike V1.0 has been released and is available for download at http://www.counter-strike.net


I'm downloading the patch now but am I better off waiting a few days for the servers to be updated or what ?!?!

[Edited by Cannon_Trodder on 09-11-00 at 15:14]

 

[old.Anatoly]

Doesn't normally take much more than day to update the servers here I don't think.

I've been reading lots of negative feedback about V1 on the forums over at http://www.counter-strike.net, about the new animations, and how there are no longer any death/being shot ones. As well as the usual 'Valve have murdered CS', although this is probably from from those few people who cannot accept that CS is now a very popular mod that is (and rightly so) being released commercially.
They would rather Gooseman and co slaved away for nothing answering all the 'hard-core' players requests for map/weapon changes.

I'll have to download it tonight and see whether it is actually that bad.

 

[granny]

[17:47] <GrannY> oh goddammmit it's a conspiracy
[17:48] <GrannY> i finally get a connection
[17:48] <GrannY> only to discover the bw servers are all v1.0 now!
[17:48] <GrannY> *sigh*
[17:48] <GrannY> yum, 24mb download just for the upgrade fs
[17:48] <xxxxxxxxxxx> Bw Servers are all V1.0 of what ?
[17:48] <GrannY> counterstrike
[17:48] <xxxxxxxxxxx> oh they finally got out of beta then ?
[17:49] <GrannY> yeah
[17:49] <GrannY> it'll be in shops soon
[17:49] <GrannY> people paying for cs, lol
[17:49] <GrannY>
[17:49] <GrannY> world's full of tards

 

[Ono]

Where are the NEW maps?

How weird.

Oh dear.

Oh no

 

[Ono]

NOT A GOOD START

-The new patch has made everyone walk in a gh3y manner!

-Office has had the decorators in.

- the death animations have gone (phew!!)

- some new updated player models


THAT'S IT!!


What a waste of time.

 

[old.bee]

I think it only contains ONE new map.. cs_thunder is it?

 

[Ono]

NO!

cs_Thunder was pulled due to time constraints.

Oh well. Just think of it as a none event and ignore the gh3y walks and you won't really be disappointed.

 

[old.Carl1ng]

PROBLEM
Been trying to get the new patch for CS for 2 hours now, cant even get a snif of it due to the amount of ppl downloading it.

SOLUTION
All games servers update their version 2 or 3 days after patch has been released (lets us spread the traffic over a couple of days).

Still can't get it and I got a match tomorrow.

HELP I AM GOING MAD!

 

[Ono]

Just keep trying m8.

I am thinking of doing an ICQ file transfer to my bro if he cant get it. But then he has ISDN and I have ADSL so it should be no probs.

 

[old.QorbeQ]

Re: NOT A GOOD START

Originally posted by Ono
-The new patch has made everyone walk in a gh3y manner!
-Office has had the decorators in.
- the death animations have gone (phew!!)
- some new updated player models
THAT'S IT!!
What a waste of time.

That's not "it".

One thing that I've been waiting ages for has finally happened. If you run with a gun the accuracy goes wild. If you run zoomed in, it's worse.

You should now find that using the AWP while jumping out from behind a crate is quite a bit more difficult. I can hear the AWP llamas moaning already, but remember this ISN'T a deathmatch clone and the AWP ISN'T the CS version of a railgun - it's a sniper rifle and hopefully now people will start sniping with it instead of running around the map like a Q3 railer!

I quite like CS 1.0 now

Admittedly some of the movement animations look very weird compared to the old ones but we'll get used to them - and some of them are very realistic now - imagine how you'd look creeping around with a rifle in your hands (and no, I mean irl, not in your dreams ) but the legs do seem to animate too quickly for the distance that the character is moving on screen.

One thing I think I might miss from the Beta versions is that the Terrorist with the bomb doesn't have it on his back any more - it's "invisible" except on the T radar. I used to use that when playing as a T to check visually who had the bomb and protect/follow him. I can see that this might stop CT teams concentrating on the bomb carrier though so it's not too bad.

All in all, it's much more polished now and much more of a "store" product than the betas. Yes, some people will have become so used to B7.1 that they won't like 1.0 much at the moment. Give it time and I bet you'll forget what the betas were like

I only jumped in at B6.5 or thereabouts but from what I hear B1.0 was dross and you STILL had people moaning that things had changed when newer ones came out...



[Edited by QorbeQ on 09-11-00 at 22:01]

 

[shabazz]

yeah i agree on the way the peeps walk now (they kinda mince about)

and is it me or do the t's look all skinny?

and what happened to the vip? the fat controller (or was it more like pugwash?) from before was cool, although he did look funny with a gun. I guess he's been replaced with arnie!

overall new guns look sweet (the more the merrier!) although i only had time to look today, not actually give em a whirl.

overall, progress is the key (where would we be without that!)

yay for cs! ;p

Was kinda big update for all those modemers though!

 

[granny]

Hmm, all I saw on the servers lastnight was people whining about the models..

I think they're pretty good. Yes the animations are a bit odd, as someone said "John Cleese ministry of silly walks" but in general the models themselves are excellent. Couple of things look a bit odd I'll grant, especially the arms on a couple of the T models.. but do people know what the poly limit is on Half-Life models? It's under 1000. You ever tried modelling realistic-looking human figures in under 1000 polys? I have and it's f*cking hard!

The new weapons seem a bit poo to me, but then I've not really played with them enough to get used to them - I used to think the p90 was shit but now, well, in CQB's I can tear through unsuspecting enemies with it

Give it time people and remember, this may be v1.0 but that doesn't mean it's going to stay there...

 

[stu]

The animations are a joke? Right? They have to be, right?

The models are themselves excellent, much more detail (although the L33t Krew guy is a bit of a lamer). Such a shame that when they start walking it looks like something from Monty Python. Added to which if you are looking in a different direction to your movement it simply swivels at the hips, which looks even worse - reminds me of ED-209 or something. The guy planting the bomb looks like he's taking a dump (and why the hell doesn't he have it on his back any more?), as does anyone sat squatting with a sniper rifle. The best one of all though, is when one of them climbs a ladder. Look at the little bugger's legs go!! Seriously, if you haven't seen it yet, do so at your earliest opportunity, it's bloody hilarious.

The UMP seems a bit pants, I hate the sound of it (and for some reason the sound the gun makes seems to make a massive amount of difference to my accuracy with it - I can't hit a bloody thing with a silenced Colt, but will mangle people all over with a nice unsurpressed one). Similarly the new FN pistol sounds like a bloody cap gun. Not tried the new SIG rifle, but if it's anything like the G3, it'll be crap.

They've made Vegas awful (which is truly impressive, because it was pretty bloody awful before), the only options for the Ts now are to go straight across the gambling floor (and get cut to shreds if a lot of the CTs have gone that way) or into the vent, as going down the stairs to the right gets you annihilated now. Not tried the new Office, people say it's good though.

 

[old.Hobbes^^]

I'm going to cry.

The new patch is pants.

Please I can live with the comical bow legged models if someone can tell me please how to have the switching to weapons back to normal.

I press 3 and I have to hit Enter to select the dagger?! wtf!

Other times the buy menu doesn't work properly and the only way out is to use the mouse.

 

[old.QorbeQ]

Weapon switching changed? I didn't notice anything different. I hit the weapon number and hit fire like I always have...

And as for the buy menus, I'm an advocate of losing the vGUI menus completely (I personally turn them off) because they're much more cumbersome than the text-based ones.

 

[old.Hobbes^^]

Not the way it was for me.

I would press 1, 2 or 3 and I would have the weapon automatically. Now I have to press the key then hit enter or hit fire, a pointless extra move. I mean are there new add on daggers in the game?

 

[old.Anatoly]

Weapon switch

Hobbes, go into your config.cfg and find hudfastswitch (or something similar) and change it to 1. This will let you switch weapons by just pressing the number key.

 

[old.Hobbes^^]

Anatoly.... thank you!

Now if I can just get over the models waddling I can get back to killing.

 

[old.ED209]

ahh im back

well ive just spent 2 weeks actually having a social life,after my monitor packed up and my proc melted.
as to ED209 walking funny thats because he has brittle bones and was abused by a nun with a crucifix when he was a baby.
so can we have a few posts about the new weaponry instead of saying "if the new rifle is like the G3 then it will be shit".
ne1 that has played cs tell me what the new weapons are like (new S.rifle + MG)
i dont care bout the new pistol i love my DE.
well 47% complete so far lets hope that surftime gives me a STABLER (is that a word?) ping than WOL.
well ive missed you all especially my late night anal-tongue-dart sessions with granny.

 

[stu]

Specially for you ED209, an authoritative and exhaustive round up of the new weapons.

FN Pistol: sounds crap (can you say 'spudgun'). Looks crap. Not sure about the damage it does (why on earth anyone would buy it over a USP, unless they're a REALLY bad shot and need the extra bullets, I have no idea).

UMP SMG: sounds crap (like a 'heavy' MAC 10). Looks pretty crap (compared to the MP5, which at the end of the day was the Armani of Sub Machine Guns). Only 25 rounds, which means you might have trouble when you're trying to kill 2/more enemies. Seems slower than the MP5, but the bullets seem to do a bit more damage. However I've never found that a problem with the MP5, because you can burst real nice with it, ie easily get 5+ bullets into someone which will kill them anyway. It's definitely more use at medium/long range though (because of the increased hitting power). So it's a 50/50 thing depending on the map.

SIG Rifle: Like the G3. ie, shit . Looks quite funky (although when I bought it the one time, I thought it said "Commando"? Would be nice if the CS guys actually knew anything about guns). Sounds total bollocks. Hopelessly inaccurate (just like the G3). For long range sniping the AWP still dumps on it, and for medium range I prefer an AK.

 

[old.Sokem]

rofl

I think CS 1.0 is tops

Makes me laugh when people say "o i'm so shit at this new version". WHATS CHANGED YOU PEONS THAT NOW YOU CAN'T PLAY THE GAME!!!

Legs move funny but it does'nt take away from the gameplay, moving while firing is not accurate anymore which is good but it's the same game played the same way, if your moaning about being shit it's because you always have been or your aimbot does'nt work with this version.

sheesh, whiners

 

[old.QorbeQ]

I think that the main problems for people are that some gun powers and recoils have been "tweaked" again. For example it's taken me a little while to get re-used to the M4 my "previous" favourite gun. I'm back up to speed with it now but I /was/ aiming a little wrong with the new setup so wasn't allow the recoil to carry up into the head.

Also, I suspect the running-with-the-gun thing has thrown several people because they've simply not noticed the change and are wondering why they aren't taking people down while belting across the map like they used to.

The complaints will die down

 

[stu]

Re: rofl

Originally posted by Sokem
moving while firing is not accurate anymore which is good but it's the same game played the same way, if your moaning about being shit it's because you always have been or your aimbot does'nt work with this version

Errr... braindeath???

Moving and firing is different in accuracy. So how the hell can it be played the same way? The only people who will not notice this difference are those people who never move and fire at the same time.

What annoys me is that for some reason rushing seems to have increased in the new version. Beforehand there was an about even mix of people who charged in and those that hung back a little. Now, with less accurate guns, ironically all that seems to happen is the two teams charge to the chokepoints on the map and blast the hell out of each other.

The SIG seems to have changed slightly to me, but that might be entirely subjective.

 

[old.ED209]

ta stu-

well i hope you lot are really enjoying CS,i havent played for 3 weeks now.
1.) first i melted my monitor
2.) i melted my processor
3.) now my 3d card wont work,so im gonna ask dixons for a refund.
4.)never ever buy anything from dixons all you will get is constant headache.