Could we "excal" take out the yanks?

Taen

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Reply within quote .. sorry for messed up format but im in a rush :p

Iceflower said:
Bleh for ignorant political propaganda on this sever. A few comments on the some silly things here:

>You mean some of you lot are actually aware theres a world outside of your own boarders?

I guess those guys that paid in blood to to ensure continental Europe would cease to be Nazi occupied would find that comment really offensive....

>Actually if want to know something interesting .. America only came into the war because of Pearl Harbour .. and they still wouldnt declare war on Germany .. and fyi the reason america entered the war in europe was because Germany declared war on the US not the other way around so this attitude of america swepeing in and been the big hero is utter bullshit .. America only entered the war when they had to .. millions of lives could have been saved if they had chosen to come in earlier.

>the states thinks its the centre of the world and that they can do what the want

Small wonder, it have been forced to bail out stupid Europeans from two huge wars in the last 90 years....that have given them them a belief that they are the last bastion of democracy in this world since we Europeans have been soo good at creating bad political systems during the last 100 years.

>LOL m8 .. Did you know where Jefferson got most of his ideas for the American constitution .. A guy named John Locke who was english. American constitution is founded on a Europeans ideas .. OMG !!! And if u believe that America is democratic atm u are quite stupid. A two party system where whoever has the most money wins .. and to get this money the politicians make deals with corporations .. guess where americas foreign and ecomonic policies come from .. yes .. corporations. Have u any idea what these companies do in foreign countries. Check where ur
Nikes were made m8 .. probably in a sweat shop in a 3rd world country where its practically slave labour. As for bailing us out of 2 stupid wars .. the first world war happened in a political climate of kings and queens .. nothing much the average joe could do anything about... most people didnt even understand the reason they were fighting. As for the second world war .. yes it was a WORLD WAR .. it was quite a unique event in the history of the human race and was influenced by sociological factors that had to do with more than just europeans. And as i said above america didnt sweep in and save everybody out of the goodness of their hearts .. they just realised that they were next on the list.

>Most americans have no clue about their countries foreign poilcy and economic practices.

The sad thing is that that statement applies to Europeans as well when it comes to the European Union (only level were we can compare Europe and the US). A small test, raise your hand all of you that can tell what the EU Nice summit in 2002 created that have an impact on all European countries today. ;) (dont cheat by using googles now :) )

>I can tell u m8 because my country held the deciding vote and we had a referendum twice on Nice .. and i can tell u one thing .. the majority of europeans have a much better idea about what goes on in relation to the EUs foreign and economic policies ... countries have voted no on single currency etc. which proves that the average voter is concerned about the economic impact which Nice and the single currency is going to have on them. Bush stated when talking about education in the states last year that huge reforms were needed and one of the statistics he used was that something like 40% of american high school students thought that germany was on the side of the allies in world war 2 when asked the question... need i say more

>There are REASONS why what it is happening in the world atm is happening and it wont be sorted till americans stop believing that people who have attacked america are doing it because the are evil and have nothing better to do

You miss most of the story by only looking at the last 10 years...

>who said im looking at the last 10 years?

>the americans have to try and figure out that something is driving people to behave the way the are to the extent that they give up their own lives in thier cause

Oh dear, so we should actually believe Bin Laden's view that this is a religous war then? Islam versus Christianity?

>Oh Jesus .. this is exactly what im talking about .. why the fuck would Bin laden be attacking america if he wanted a war on christianity .. America is hardly the most christian place in the world .. why are the not bombing the Vatican ... Bin Ladens war has nothing to do with religion m8 .. at best its an excuse he uses to rally support. Figure out what american companies are doing in the rest of the world and what americas poilicies are and then come back and talk to me .. The CIA trained Bin Laden FFS and they gave Sadaam most of the weapons he had.

>people have to try and see past this and eduacate thenselves with the reality of the situation .. and the first step should be to get rid of BUSH

Looks like you have fallen into the propaganda trap yourself :) The problems you allude to in your US bashing post have deep roots and is part of a very complex situation. Thinking those can be easier solved just by taking out one man from the equation is giving him far more credit than he deserves. His predecessors on the post has tried to solve them since the middle of the 70's without success. I guess that education advice could do you good too.

>The reality m8 is that Bush is a symbol across the world of american ignorance and agression .. he is also wrongly in office and he is the cause of a huge split within the states itself. Removing him from power and puting in a new administration is the first step in a process that america has to go through if they want to sort this mess out. I know what bush is and isnt m8 .. i know who really has the power and that the man is a puppet but it cant be a bad idea to get rid of a man who publicly says about Sadaam b4 the war in Iraq " thats the man who tried to kill my daddy" ( quote taken from newsweek )
 

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Lethul said:
if (i == moderator)
Belomar = Banned
else
qq

you complained about my java skeels and ill never forget yoo :((
Pfft, that's hardly Java syntax, and it doesn't look very well-designed either. This is how it should be done, you noob:

Code:
if (user.isModerator()) {
    belomar.setBanned(true);
}
else {
     user.emitWhiteNoise();
}

Back to your studies!
 

Tharion

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Lethul said:
if (i == moderator)
Belomar = Banned
else
qq

you complained about my java skeels and ill never forget yoo :(

edit: fuck, space doenst work infront of belomar and qq and now it looks like nooob java anyway :(

Looks more like noob basic anyways :)

10 print "Lethul is a n00b"
20 goto 10

:D
 

old.Sko

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Belomar said:
Pfft, that's hardly Java syntax, and it doesn't look very well-designed either. This is how it should be done, you noob:

Code:
if (user.isModerator()) {
    belomar.setBanned(true);
}
else {
     user.emitWhiteNoise();
}

Back to your studies!
Code:
void ban(User user) throws AccessDeniedException 
{
      User current = UserRegistry.getCurrentUser();
      Role r = current.getRole();
      if (r instanceof Moderator){
             Moderator moder = (Moderator)r;
             moder.ban(user);
      }
      else {
           throw AccessDeniedException("....");
      }
}
  
....

try {
   ban(belomar);
}
catch (AccessDeniedException e ){
   e.showError();
   emitWhiteNoise();
}

there's more ways to skin a cat ^^
 

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Well, my code was a representation of the algorithms driving the average forum user, not the internals of the forum itself. Oh well, at least we're successfully derailing the lame US-vs-Europe discussion that just cropped up. ;)

Anyway, I liked Thari's code best. :D
 

Lethul

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Belomar said:
Well, my code was a representation of the algorithms driving the average forum user, not the internals of the forum itself. Oh well, at least we're successfully derailing the lame US-vs-Europe discussion that just cropped up. ;)

Anyway, I liked Thari's code best. :D

fu :)

you dont need {} if you only got one sats :)
 

Asha

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You mean some of you lot are actually aware theres a world outside of your own boarders?
I guess those guys that paid in blood to to ensure continental Europe would cease to be Nazi occupied would find that comment really offensive....
Actually, they wouldn't because most of them are 80+ or dead (like both my Grandfathers who went to Europe and then Asia in WW2). The majority of the American population right now is not very well informed about the goings on of the world outside the USA. Why? It's a damn big country - in Europe it's easy to travel to another country - In America it's not easy at all. And where ever I have lived, USA or Europe, I have found the average person to be lacking knowledge of countries outside their own. People only fault Americans for that because they are in power.

Actually if want to know something interesting .. America only came into the war because of Pearl Harbour .. and they still wouldnt declare war on Germany .. and fyi the reason america entered the war in europe was because Germany declared war on the US not the other way around so this attitude of america swepeing in and been the big hero is utter bullshit .. America only entered the war when they had to .. millions of lives could have been saved if they had chosen to come in earlier.
That is bull shit. America wasn't a super power (by any means!) in 1919 or 1939. Europe was the other side of the world and it wasn't the age we are in now where you can move an army so quickly. You could use the same damn argument for England and say that they didn't do anything about Hitler until it was clear their interest were going to be effected. Millions of lives could have been saved if the UK and France didn't bury their heads in the sand while Hilter built up armies and started annexing and taking countries? I actually find these kind of statements really offensive and I was shocked when I first heard them. The US islands in the Pacific were attacked, certainly, but we were in no way "next" - The Japanese were never going to attack the mainland USA, it would have been pointless. The fact is that we TWICE sent our young men across the Atlantic to bail out Democratic Europe - the way you put it is like it was nothing, everyday, routine.

LOL m8 .. Did you know where Jefferson got most of his ideas for the American constitution .. A guy named John Locke who was english. American constitution is founded on a Europeans ideas .. OMG !!!
LoL M8... Did you know that Jefferson didn't write the US Constituion? You don't know about countries outside your own boarder! (j/k) James Madison wrote the US Constitution. Ummmmmmmmmmm and European ideas were based on Greek and Roman ones. Don't be stupid please. Because we built on European ideas (we were decended from Europeans ffs) doesn't take away from the great thing that the US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution are. In fact, the EU has in turn implemented many things that the US Constitution and Bill of Rights introduced - so what?

And if u believe that America is democratic atm u are quite stupid. A two party system where whoever has the most money wins .. and to get this money the politicians make deals with corporations .. guess where americas foreign and ecomonic policies come from .. yes .. corporations. Have u any idea what these companies do in foreign countries. Check where ur
Nikes were made m8 .. probably in a sweat shop in a 3rd world country where its practically slave labour. As for bailing us out of 2 stupid wars .. the first world war happened in a political climate of kings and queens .. nothing much the average joe could do anything about... most people didnt even understand the reason they were fighting. As for the second world war .. yes it was a WORLD WAR .. it was quite a unique event in the history of the human race and was influenced by sociological factors that had to do with more than just europeans. And as i said above america didnt sweep in and save everybody out of the goodness of their hearts .. they just realised that they were next on the list.
The US was never next on the list. They saw their Pacific islands attacked and all their European allies being over taken by Facists and Communists and realized the world was going to be a very lonely place for Democracy. Neither Germany nor Japan could have launched an attack on mainland USA. We entered WW2 for those reasons, not because we were next.

However, the USA is, sadly, being run by corporations. The whole world is atm, and if you think Europe & Asia aren't, you're being a bit naive.

Most americans have no clue about their countries foreign poilcy and economic practices.
The thing is - other countries foreign policies aren't so earth shattering as the US foreign policy - so the lack of citizens knowledge isn't so obvious. Many Americans DO follow US foreign policy, but it's just as confusing to us as it is to the rest of the world. We do know our economic policies.

Bush stated when talking about education in the states last year that huge reforms were needed and one of the statistics he used was that something like 40% of american high school students thought that germany was on the side of the allies in world war 2 when asked the question... need i say more
Yes, you need to say more because that is a half quote ! 40% of American High School Seniors (senior = 17 or 18) thought that Japan, Germany OR Italy were allies in WW2 - Totally different thing! Of course 40% of American High School Seniors don't think Germany was our ally in WW2. It's still bad, but it's not as bad as you try to twist it to look. I am sure that it was Italy throwing people off because they switched sides in WW1.

the americans have to try and figure out that something is driving people to behave the way the are to the extent that they give up their own lives in thier cause
You do know that the same people that targeted the USA, also targeted the UK, Germany, and maybe Spain ? People in glass houses...
Europe is just as caught up in this mess as the USA is.


Oh Jesus .. this is exactly what im talking about .. why the fuck would Bin laden be attacking america if he wanted a war on christianity .. America is hardly the most christian place in the world ..
The media coming out of the USA would not suggest it, but it is a very very conservative and mostly "Christian" country. I say that slightly sarcastically because the people who call themselves Christian basically act anything but.


The reality m8 is that Bush is a symbol across the world of american ignorance and agression .. he is also wrongly in office and he is the cause of a huge split within the states itself. Removing him from power and puting in a new administration is the first step in a process that america has to go through if they want to sort this mess out. I know what bush is and isnt m8 .. i know who really has the power and that the man is a puppet but it cant be a bad idea to get rid of a man who publicly says about Sadaam b4 the war in Iraq " thats the man who tried to kill my daddy" ( quote taken from newsweek )
I agree. I really hope my country gets rid of this man, but I am not sure that it happens. Why? Because he has $100m to spend on his campain. Because my country is still feeling very defensive after 9/11. Because it hasn't yet sunk in how much of a mistake Iraq was.

my 2 cents was more like $20.00 o_O
sorry
 

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type tuser = array[1..10] of integer; (1 = allow read, 2 = allow write, 3 = user level (1 owner, 2 mod, 3 user, 4 guest).....)
var belomar:tuser;

function ban(userid,currentuser);
begin;
userid:=GetTargetUser;
currentuser:=GetCurrentUser

if (currentuser[3]>3) then
userid[2]=0
else
writeln('You cannot use this function');
end;



Good old Pascal (just imagine GetTargetUser and GetCurrentUser are alrdy defined procedures)
 

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Asha I am an American citizen. I was born and lived there .. Ok Jefferson didnt write the constitution, he wrote the declaration of independance which the opening paragraph hugely influenced the constitution. And the point I was trying to make was in reference to the comment on europes " fucked up political systems". Europe is the home of democracy not america ... and most of the ideas in the American constitution came from europe so to suggest anything about europe in that way is BS .. and Hamilton wrote most of the american constitution not Maddison so there is igorance on both sides here.

The comment I made about America been next is valid imo .. American was certianly no superpower and vunerable to attack. They would not enter the war at the time and it was one policies that the Amercan presidency was fought over at the time. America did enter the war when germany declared war on it not the other way around .. so America was at war with Japan and europe had fallen to Hitler and Russia was in the control of Stalin . America had no allies left and the faced been alone in a world with no friends and in a horrendous economic situation .. who is to say what would happen next .. my pointbeen that America entered the war because it had to not becuase they decided to save the world which many Americans would have you believe and it was a World War involving most of the world and not a European war that America sorted out.

Tbh i dont believe that even 10% of Americans have the slightest idea of what their countries ecomomic policies are the adverse effects the have on the 3rd World. I have read too much to believe that if Americans knew what was going on in other countries thatthey would stand for it .. take Bhopal for instance and the way noone was prosecuted for it .. and tbh 90% of Americans wouldnt have a clue what Bhopal was if you asked them.

As for Bin Laden targeting European countries ... imo the reason for this is that certain european countries have come out in strong support of the United States .. reasons been mainly economic imo .. Im by no means saying that europe is isnt free from corruption or influnce from big business but what I see going on in europe is more REAL debate and more realistic attitudes to the situation. I believe that most Americans fall into the category that they think all this is happening because Bin Laden woke up one morning and decided to wage a Holywar against christianity. Bush would have us believe that the only reason Bin Landen is attacking other countries is becuase he is evil and the devil incarnate .. this is not true .. Bin Laden is practically worshipped by his followers and however fucked up their reasons are for doin what what they are doing they still have reasons and it not a holy war. We have to ask ourselves why do they resent the states so much and why go to such extreme measures.. if we answer these questions realisticly then we much closer to sorting this shit out. People have to stop listening to the bullshit propoganda machin that is rolling in the US and in europe.

Believe me when I say that Im an American who is living in Europe atm and I see Europe in a much healtier place than America .. tbh my own country frightens me and the potential of what it can do and what it might do.
 

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yer Kagato, get your old sig. up to make this post funny, you know the one with the boobies and the shirts :p


oh and btw (couldn't be arsed to read everything), Taen got a point there.
 

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yus, it is boring for everyone else, but I love history :D
sorry, I'll stop now ^^
but hamilton didn't write the US Constitution
ok stopping !

Tbh i dont believe that even 10% of Americans have the slightest idea of what their countries ecomomic policies are the adverse effects the have on the 3rd World. I have read too much to believe that if Americans knew what was going on in other countries thatthey would stand for it .. take Bhopal for instance and the way noone was prosecuted for it .. and tbh 90% of Americans wouldnt have a clue what Bhopal was if you asked them.

I don’t have a clue what Bhopal is :D
I bet 90% of English people don't either :p
Americans do know the adverse effects, but they put it to the back of their minds. You talk like Europeans don’t wear the slave labor made shoes, jeans, tee-shirts. It’s not just an American problem. These corporations are global, so are the problems. Blaming only America for the global problems will get us no where ...
 

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Belomar said:
Pfft, that's hardly Java syntax, and it doesn't look very well-designed either. This is how it should be done, you noob:

Code:
if (user.isModerator()) {
    belomar.setBanned(true);
}
else {
     user.emitWhiteNoise();
}

Back to your studies!

hoho
 

Taen

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Im memory serves me correctly Hamilton and Maddison wrote it together but Hamilton wrote most of it.. Bhopal was a disaster that happened in a chemical plant in Bhopal in India .. do a google search .. you will be horrified
 

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liloe said:
yer Kagato, get your old sig. up to make this post funny, you know the one with the boobies and the shirts :p


oh and btw (couldn't be arsed to read everything), Taen got a point there.

Sorry thought it was about time for a deep and morbid sig.

But seeing as you asked...
 

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Taen said:
Im memory serves me correctly Hamilton and Maddison wrote it together but Hamilton wrote most of it.. Bhopal was a disaster that happened in a chemical plant in Bhopal in India .. do a google search .. you will be horrified
no they worked together to get a second continental congress to address the problems of the articles of federation. the constitution was written by many lawyers, including both men, but Madison's ideals of federalism won (the Virginia Plan) won out over Hamilton's more state centered ideas.

I dont wanna be horrified anymore today, Spain is enough for one week :(
 

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Asha said:
no they worked together to get a second continental congress to address the problems of the articles of federation. the constitution was written by many lawyers, including both men, but Madison's ideals of federalism won (the Virginia Plan) won out over Hamilton's more state centered ideas.

You are right :D .. got confused with the essays written to support the constitution .. "The Federalist" etc . :clap:
 

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Teh funny thing about korea is that they have channels showing game contests, and one dedicated channel only for Starcraft :eek6: and did you know 90% of all koreans know what kinda game starcraft is? and almost 70% of the ppl in korea plays/has played starcraft? its like a religion over there, saw it on a documentary :m00: muhaha
 

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I am struggeling to come to terms with the fact that some people thought I was serious about Koreans being better because they're shorter...everyone knows Koreans are better because they have more garlic in their diets.
 

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Tiac said:
Teh funny thing about korea is that they have channels showing game contests, and one dedicated channel only for Starcraft :eek6: and did you know 90% of all koreans know what kinda game starcraft is? and almost 70% of the ppl in korea plays/has played starcraft? its like a religion over there, saw it on a documentary :m00: muhaha

lol, excellent
 

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Ofcourse it differs in playingstyle. The EU didn't simply copy the US way of playing when the EU-servers were started. We developed a own kind of way.

Like in CounterStrike. Americans like the AWP, Europeans like the AK47.
 

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